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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:54 PM
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Yeee-ouch! Check out Tom Flocco's new story on Black Box Voting
http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=art...

Consider the following from some of the widely-available but leaked Diebold internal memos: On April 12, 2000, former Global Election Systems (now Diebold) support specialist Mike Brown asked "What is Global's stand on using cell phones with AccuVote? Are there any written instructions?" ...

"But California voters may want to know if anyone with a cell-phone could transfer or intercept the voting tabulation, and also whether each cell-phone used was individually certified and identified prior to its use while managing normal election procedures.

"Diebold sales representative Steve Knecht wrote on April 12, 2000 that "We are using cell phones in Tulare and Marin ," while also introducing a rather curious, unfamiliar electronic election official called a 'rover:' "Rovers are the ones who are given the cell phone with the modem for end of night totals upload, not the precinct worker, at least in these two locations."

"Guy Lancaster, Diebold software programmer, wrote on April 12, 2000, regarding cell phones: "I know of no written instructions," leading us to wonder if there were rules and traceable documentation, or why cell phones were being used in the first place or who was certifying and identifying the phones and their numbers prior to an election--and what security issues were involved.

Diebold support specialist Juan A. Rivera wrote on April 14, 2000 that "In Puerto Rico we did use cell phones with AccuVote successfully," adding much more significant information: "If the connection can support a decent voice conversation, the AccuVote will work via a cell phone. Also, we did not have to dial the phone manually; the AccuVote did that just as if it was connected to the wall jack." And for those California voters interested in more intricate ballot-tabulation maneuvers on Tuesday, Rivera reports that "On the new cells, they have an adaptor for connecting your lap-top to the internet with an RG-11 connector available. This will also do the trick."






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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:57 PM
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1. What's next? Intercepting through a Game Boy?

rocknation


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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:00 PM
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2. This is still to "techno" for me....what's the bottom line here?
I read in a previous post of yours that gathering tallies before the polls close was illegal. Does this mean the above memo proves that the law was broken in Georgia in 2000? Does this have any ramifications for the CA recall vote today? If so what is the impact?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:07 PM
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3. Unreal - cell phone uploads-not the precinct worker - and GOP wins
another "upset" those exit polls just did not predict!

Great find, Bev!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:12 PM
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4. Tom Flocco, lol
is Katherine Harris still dead? :-)
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:29 PM
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7. Say what you will, I read the same memos and I concur
with his conclusions that this is an uncertified, ludicrous system. Also of interest:

After Tueday's recall vote is tabulated and results are final in seven days, things could get interesting if highly controversial publisher and California gubernatorial candidate--but also first amendment activist--Larry Flynt decides to dial up the internet and take a look at Diebold's memos...Losing candidates may also be concerned about ... the chain of custody of the vote-count memory cards which are essentially portable electronic ballot-boxes the size of a credit card. A stack of them fit in a pocket.

Absolutely correct. Whose bright idea was it to make a ballot box so small you can palm it up your sleeve?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:17 PM
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5. Wow.
This is the biggest can of worms Ive ever seen.


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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:25 PM
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6. Hey Bev
Just so you know - I gave BBVReport.org a BIG plug today on our IE AMERICA Top of the Hour News read.. it gets out to a lot of folks..

also forwarded a vote complaint to your site.. looks like they are using PROVISIONAL Ballots a LOT..

Might want to check into that..

Here's the copy I wrote/read, don't know what will get chopped out -- it's a three minute news spot total..

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California voters can submit voting experiences or problems today at a site Sponsored by Black Box Voting, an organization working to force touch screen voting machine makers to use computer code that is absolutely secure.

Author Bev Harris, of Black Box Voting.com has claimed to have documented what appears to be hundreds of potential security flaws in the machines that could lead to "realtime" improper tallying of votes - coupled with the fact that the voting machines do not generate any sort of receipt or paper trail should a recount be necessary.

They are asking anyone to report any unusual or egregious problems to BBVreport.org. The BBV team will also contact the media and direct them to the scene of the action.

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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 02:32 PM
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8. Thanks. Your flash media presentation is linked to the front page
The biggest problem with getting Black Box Voting harassed out of action Friday and Saturday was that it put us behind the curve on publicizing this site, and it shows -- but reports usually come in for up to a week afterward.

The provisional ballots is one area where I expect to see a lot of monkey business. Also the absentee votes. Note that, according to one report at least, the provisional ballot problem seems to primarily affect Democrats and progressives.

Bev
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