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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:09 PM
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California: Voting Irregularities?!?!
Anyone else seen anything odd? I just cast my vote and am VERY ticked at our local elections office.

Stanislaus County, Modesto, Ca.: Neither I nor several of my Independent, Green, or Democrat friends received sample ballots prior to the election. I called the registrar several days ago to verify that I'm registered to vote, and was assured that I was on the rolls and that my sample ballot must have been lost in the mail. I then asked about my polling location and was told that it was unchanged. For the record, ALL of my friends who didn't receive sample ballots heard the same story. While I try to NEVER trust government officials in our local Freeper-friendly, Rethug dominated offices, there was little I could do and had to just take their word for it.

I'll give you one guess what happened when I went to vote today...yep, they lied to me. First, I went to my regular polling place (a local church). The building was locked up tight, with NO outside "Vote Here" signs. Infuriated that I'd been lied to, I drove around until I found a payphone with a book, called my local elections office, and demanded to know the correct polling place. They directed me to a local office complex.

But my story isn't over yet. When I went in I discovered that I WAS NOT on the voter rolls. As the poll worker set me up with my provisional ballot (translation: "We're not going to bother counting it unless the race is too close to call"), she commented that she'd seen a LOT of cases like mine today. When I pressed her on how many, she emphasized "a LOT", and stated that she'd never seen so many before. In the period of time it took me to fill out my ballot, I overheard no less than THREE other voters get the same treatment...THREE in a five minute period! That's THREE voters who will NOT get their votes counted (four if you count mine).

And it goes on... When you cast a provisional ballot, they give you a special envelope to place your completed ballot into. We're using the pencil/bubble type ballots, and one side of the ballot was clearly labelled "Do Not Fold". Anyone who's ever used a Scantron type form reader before knows why...a paper with creases cannot be read. So WHY was the provisional ballot envelope I was given less than HALF the size of the ballot?!?!? When I asked the pollworker about it, she replied "Just fold it up". When I pointed out that the ballot wasn't supposed to be folded, she said, "Well sir, that's the only way you're going to be able to cast your ballot here today!". So I folded it.

After getting to my office and calling my friends, I've discovered that EVERYONE who didn't get a sample ballot was missing from the voter rolls, and many people are having difficulties finding their polling places.

Anyone else having problems like these? What should I do with this info?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:11 PM
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1. 1-877-321-VOTE (8683).
Call that number for any irregularities
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:13 PM
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2. And your local newspaper!
CALL EM...
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:14 PM
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3. Call the LA TIMES!
I am certain THEY CARE!
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:37 PM
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21. Their already on it
Called the Bee and found that I wasn't the first. Apparently the problem is fairly widespread, but the county is attributing it to the consolidated polling places. They're claiming that people aren't on the rolls because their going to the wrong polling locations.

In my case, I double checked with the registrar again...I went EXACTLY where I was supposed to.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:34 PM
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19. Called
n/t
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:14 PM
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4. report this immediately to registrar's office and to police
DON'T LET THIS GO ,- THIS IS FRAUD!!!!!!!!
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:18 PM
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5. You must report it to BBVreport.org
They will know what to do with it.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:20 PM
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6. Here we go...... why am I NOT surprised?
the fucking republicans!!! excuse me - FACSISTS!!!

yes.. call your local TV stations, LA TIMES etc...

get the word out.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:21 PM
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7. Report it here: http://www.BBVreport.org
http://www.BBVreport.org

And further
In my state (Ohio), a voter can cast a "provisional ballot" that will be sent back to the Board of Elections the same day. They will check the voter's name vs. the voter rolls at that time, then count the vote.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:24 PM
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8. Here's the related thread
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:25 PM
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9. Reported
n/t
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:40 PM
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23. About provisional ballots
The poll worker explained to me that in California, provisional ballots are the LAST thing counted, and their only looked at if the race is extremely close (e.g. the number of votes separating the candidates is smaller than the number of provisional ballots). While there IS a possibility that it may be counted, I've got this overwhelming sense of "Why did I bother?" going on right now x(

F***ing Republicans :mad: :grr:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:26 PM
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10. Call your SOS office, too!
Isn't he the State official in charge of overseeing elections? Surely they must have a hotline--- IL does!
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cupcake Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:28 PM
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12. not again.
They can't do this again, can they? Why doesn't everyone wake up???

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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:27 PM
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11. Outrageous
I had voting problems once in my life. I lived in Texas. The people there would not let me leave until it was sorted out. It was early morning, my precinct had moved, I figured I could get on to work and figure out there where to vote. Nope, they worked at the precinct to find my polling location. Had to call the elections office. That should happen every single time there is a problem when someone tries to vote.

That isn't even the end of the story. When I got home that evening someone from the elections office called to make certain that I had found my polling station.

Unbeleivable you should've been treated so poorly. Make sure you respond to all these excelelnt suggestion. Your complaints now can prevent this kind of crap happening to any of us in 2004. I'm just sorry you were disenfranchised this time out.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:29 PM
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13. PLEASE DO NOT SIT ON THIS STORY!
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:29 PM
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14. After calling the newspaper and the voter number given here
Make up a petition describing your story and a sign with something to the effect of:

Did you have trouble voting today?

and have people leaving the polling place sign your petition.

This is *exactly* the reason why the republicans cannot be allowed to steal california.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:31 PM
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16. That would not be permitted, I wager
In IL, no 'extraneous printed material' may be displayed in the polling place, only printed matter from the election authority.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:38 PM
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22. You could stand just off the premises with a sign that says
"Report Voting Problems Here"
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:49 PM
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25. That might work
:hi:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:31 PM
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15. Kern County (Bakersfield)
This what my mom told me.

Very confusing as to where to go. Multiple precincts in on polling place. NO VOTING BOOTHS!! Just tables off to the side.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:32 PM
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17. BAND TOGETHER AND SUE THE FUCK OUT OF THEM......
......GET TOGETHER WITH EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO THIS HAPPENED TO AND FILE LAW SUITS.......IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!
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