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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:13 AM
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Alameda County touch screens not working
Report just in from PP -- Paranoid Pat is heading over with camera crew to see what's what.

More info (but not much) here: http://www.BBVreport.org

Don't know if this is just one polling place or more widespread.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:14 AM
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1. That was them just turning all votes to set to Republican
eom
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:15 AM
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2. Alameda Co. is a heavily Democratic county
in Bay area so they better get on this right away.
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:24 AM
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9. Oakland: about 80% minority
funny thing, when you have problems with your voting machines, people can't vote for reasons like this: Long delays tend to accrue in the switch to paper (and often, there is a delay getting the paper ballots set up) and those who are hourly employees run out of time -- they face a choice: Get fired, get pay docked, or vote.

Bev Harris
Comment on this here: http://www.BBVreport.org
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:32 AM
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14. smokescreens, while the steal the election
foment as much confusion as possible, blame the messenger, blame Davis because he doesn't want to get recalled. We're getting set up that it's the anti-recall forces causing the problems!!!

We have to fight this to the last man and woman, don't you agree Bev?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:39 AM
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17. smoke screen? more like this smoke will lead to
the fire. GO BEV!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:18 AM
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3. millions of dollars a year for these machines and they
don't work one of the few times they use them.

I hope Alameda sues for breach of contract and gets some of their money back.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:29 AM
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12. Sue! Sue? Fuck, what about the election?
meanwhile gropinator runs off with the governorship
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:38 AM
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16. Trouble is
most of the election officials worship at the altar of all things Diebold.

Diebold AccuVote Ingredients

Taxpayer money.................$5000
Security Flaws....................328
Critical Security Flaws.........26
CEO commitments to
deliver election to GOP........1
Tamper-proof Paper ballots...0
Tamper-friendly digital
ballots................................At least 32MB
Your actual vote..................None of your business.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:20 AM
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4. Oh Shit, here we go
Heavy Dem area right? Groan...
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:21 AM
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5. my polling place....no problems
none that I saw...

I put the little card in, it brought up the ballot program...I voted...the screen said "Your vote has been recorded" and the little card popped out
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:24 AM
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8. A DU'er voted on one of these machines? Where have you been?
Why didn't you vote absentee?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:30 AM
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13. Everything is not bad
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 11:31 AM by Terwilliger
just because some people say so


plus, I have to trust that Democrats (who are in charge here in Alameda county) wouldn't knowingly let me vote in a system that wouldn't count my vote

Dems wouldn't let me down, right?

OnEdit: changed 'evil' to 'bad'
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:45 AM
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18. Just like the Democrats didn't let down Georgians?
You've got to be kidding.

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:51 AM
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21. didn't you know?
This is DemocraticPartyUnderground.com...it's not proper to think that Democrats are not holer-than-thou.

While I appreciate your efforts, and understand that Diebold or any other vote-machine service could be corrupted, I would expect any serious disenfranchisement to be addressed by the leaders we all voted for.

Right?

Democrats wouldn't intentionally allow voters to be actively disenfranchised would they?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:22 AM
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6. Folks should tell the California Democratic Party: 1-877-321-VOTE (8683)
To find your polling place, or for answers to common election questions, visit our Election Survival Guide.

If you have any other questions about your voting rights, call 1-877-321-VOTE (8683).

http://www.ca-dem.org /

Then,
Black Box Voting Report Covering The October 7th, 2003 California Gubernatorial Recall Election.

REPORT YOUR ELECTION OBSERVATIONS in real time here. If you haven't used a forum before: It's easy! Just click BBV Report Forum. This forum is open to the general public and you don't even have to log in.

http://www.bbvreport.org /
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:22 AM
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7. Question for Bev
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 11:24 AM by beam_me_up
You say in a post here:
http://whitestarwebsitedesign.com/bbvreport/modules.php...
"BevHarris wrote:
Accept nothing less than a paper ballot that you verify. It is not a "receipt" or a "trail" but a ballot -- which should be considered the legal representation of your vote, and should be placed in a secure ballot box and retained as evidence of the vote. "


I'm not clear. Are you saying that even where electronic voting machines are used, paper ballots are an option the voter can request? This is news to me.

I am an Alameda County resident.



edited block quote for clarity
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:26 AM
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11. The paper ballot is something you should demand
Sure, they'll say you can't have one. But speak up and let everyone in sight know that is NOT okay.

And sign up to become a Black Box Activist: bev@blackboxvoting.com

We have activism activities that run the gamut from lots of effort to very little effort.

And, for very little effort, those of you who live in California -- tell folks to report their voting experiences, both good and bad, here:
http://www.BBVreport.org

Bev
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:49 AM
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20. Thanks Bev n/t
:kick:
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JewelDigger Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:25 AM
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10. Quick....
...somebody run to Office Max, get paper ballots photocopied, several hundred pencils and an electric sharpener! You know, there really should be an official policy of a 'manual back-up' at the ready for when those pesky machines go down! :evilgrin:
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:33 AM
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15. The rig is on...
... take it away, Big Brother!
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cupcake Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:45 AM
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19. Nooooo
This is such a mess. Why couldn't they have waited to get things more organized???? :(
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:56 AM
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22. I am becoming more of a Luddite with each passing day
I love the punch-card system we use in San Diego Co.
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:36 PM
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24. Except that San Diego County is going to Diebold touch screens
a $31 million purchase made in July, 2003.

Bev
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:14 PM
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23. Kick
:kick:
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:50 PM
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25. oh this is just 'wonderful'
Alameda is suddenly going to be overwhelmingly conservative, overnight

:grr:
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