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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:37 AM
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Bustamante: If that had been my daughter, we would have settled it...
... a looong time ago and it would have been up close and personal.

GO CRUZ! (but please don't pick a fist fight with Ah-nold...)
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:39 AM
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1. In my old NYC neighborhood
a group would have waited for Adnold and then kicked the crap out of him.

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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:40 AM
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2. I agree with Bustamante
I have a daughter and I would most certainly settle it face to face if Schwarzenegger pulled that kind of thing on her. He may or may not be a criminal, but he certainly is a pervert and disrespectful towards women and is not fit to govern anywhere, let alone a huge state like California.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:42 AM
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3. Ahnold
knows he is the top of the food chain in Hollyweird, and that he can pretty much get away with anything. The women he groped were assisstants, etc., and he knew that if they said anything, they probably would be blackballed.

Abuse of power.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:56 AM
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6. Yes, that's why the British women complained earlier
The complaints by the 3 British interviewers groped broke at the time it happened. They couldn't be told "you'll never work in this town again" because they worked in British TV, not American TV or films.
I really hope the libel case against AS goes ahead.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:52 AM
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4. Arnold is simply an ignorant misogynist pig...
and unfortunately, Maria is simply a pathetic soul.. Having Oprah as a close friend, you'd think that some of her independence would have rubbed off on Maria.... And yes, I think Oprah DOES regret having had Arnold on her show... A big mistake that I think she will learn from (hopefully)
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:54 AM
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5. Loved seeing that...
My hope is that Gray Davis survives the recall and Bustamante gets into Congress. We need that kind of piss and vinegar in our elected Democrats.
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 10:57 AM
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7. This morning on ABC
Jake Tapper characterized Bustamante's comments as him playing "quien es mas macho" with Arnold. That ticked me off.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:11 AM
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8. Hey Cruz
You may want to down a few Subways before challenging bodybuilders to fist fights.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:05 PM
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15. If he knows Judo that kinda neutralizes any weight advantage
and Subways are not exactly the food of choice for the health wise.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:19 PM
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16. They worked for Jared.
:+
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mkregel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:36 PM
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21. Bodybuilders can't fight!
Their muscle is not designed for fighting - theyre building bulk, making them all tight and unflexible.
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2cents Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:32 AM
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9. Brilliant statement
It sums up the issue and touches a nerve in every father regardless of party.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 11:34 AM
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10. Uh-huh. Suuuuure you would have, Cruz.
You and what army?
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Abbalon Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 12:46 PM
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11. Body Builders
ain't shit. A man who worked on the farm I grew-up on molested my oldest sister when she was 5 or 6. She told my mother about him lifting her dress and busted out baswlin as she told about thim removing her underpants.

It has been related down to me by my oldest brother and my victim sister how my mother went into his room(room and board situation)and threw out all his stuff. She then when in search of him. Found him by the barn and flailed on him until he was headed up the driveway.

He was a hoss too. Hard from working the farm. My daddy was 5'6", was shot down twice in ww2, missing in action for six months after the bataan death march, strafed by Japanese planes while beening resused. Got disability for shrapnel wounds.

All the men, Marines, Sailors, Army and Army Air Corp(Pop was Army Air Corp, tail gunner). When they were released to load the baot or home the officer would calll out your name and points acummulated in combat. Those with the higest numbers loaded first and so on.

When he came to my pop he looked at his paper, back at my skinny(all bataan surviviors had trouble with lost weight)father, back at his list and finnally he halted the line getting on the boat and said, "son get on the damned boat".

My father fought in every major engagement except one during his time in the Army Air Corp.

It was unfortunate that the bastard who molested my sister didn't get away fast enough. My pop who had put on a few pounds was heading home from his job at Western Electric. He saw the bastard wlking up the road with his stuff and stopped.

He beat the crap out of him and then some. His only knowledge was that Ruby, my mother, had run him off. His face was scratched and bloodied. If he had known the full story I think my father would have killed the man out right.

When pop got home he was mad at my mother because she might have been hurt. I, we know that a grown man could beat-up even a young strong woman most of the time.

Circumstances do play a role. Mothers are evil bitches with no consern for their own safety when it comes to their childern. Emeint danger or impulsive reaction can create the meanest most ugly one hundred punds of fingernails and teeth that planet earth has ever seen.

Secondly a young man forced into war, serving as a tail gunner on countlesss misions. Wounded serval times, shoot down twice behind enemey lies, six months missing in action, hiding with Phillipino Gurrellas from the Japanese who beheaded his cammanding officer.

I guess my 5'6" on 155 pound father didn't get the memo about strong dumb jocks.

Life's experiences can create extra-ordinary people out of just plain folks. So can extra ordinary circumstances.

Beleive it or not, I was rasied in a Christian home and was marched to church Sundays, Sunday nights, and WEd. chior practice.

Facing a person whos wish is to harm you at any cost with no regard for themselve's can be intimidating. I think Arnold is a loud mouthed bully with people he thinks he can intimidate. Women caught off guard seem to be his specialty.

I doubt fondling someones wife would cause a scrinaro like I have told but Arnold is not bullet proof.
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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:52 PM
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12. That was the best thing I read all day.
You got to the heart of the matter.

We all have strength when people are trying to step on us.

Thanks for the inspirational message.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:03 PM
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14. Arnold is a "girly boy..."
So is pResident Bush.

Arnold molests women because he is afraid of men.

Notice how he always seems to make a very careful calculation before he gropes anyone, how he only goes after those women who seem to be afraid of him.

Tell you what, Mr. Assaassin, in Sacramento there are a whole lot of people, men and women, who are not afraid of Arnold. If he wins this election he's gonna get shredded, and his pathetic movie and political career will be over.

People are going to see him for the decrepit little clown that he is, and he'll end his days hosting some humiliating "Family Feud" rip-off sponsored by a fifth tier fly-by-night herbal "vitality" supplement maker.

Yep, watch Arnold making passes at someone's toothless old grandma. Yuck, yuck, yuck. He sure is a horny old fart, isn't he? Remember Richard Dawson? He was so much better at this. He didn't mumble or stumble around nearly so much as Arnold.

evil evil evil grin :evilgrin:

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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:39 PM
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17. Objection: assumes facts not in evidence
Arnold molests women because he is afraid of men.

Unwarranted speculation. If he did molest women, it could be for any number of reasons. I see no evidence indicating that he is afraid of men.

Notice how he always seems to make a very careful calculation before he gropes anyone, how he only goes after those women who seem to be afraid of him.


Please support that statement.

Tell you what, Mr. Assaassin, in Sacramento there are a whole lot of people, men and women, who are not afraid of Arnold. If he wins this election he's gonna get shredded, and his pathetic movie and political career will be over.


The matter at hand is that a politician who by all appearance is overweight and sedentary has speculated that he would have physically confronted Schwarzenegger had Schwarzenegger done something to his daughter. The population demographics of Sacremento are irrelevant.

People are going to see him for the decrepit little clown that he is, and he'll end his days hosting some humiliating "Family Feud" rip-off sponsored by a fifth tier fly-by-night herbal "vitality" supplement maker.


He is already extraordinarily wealthy, with his total fortune estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. He won't have to work, regardless of his political fortunes.

Yep, watch Arnold making passes at someone's toothless old grandma. Yuck, yuck, yuck. He sure is a horny old fart, isn't he? Remember Richard Dawson? He was so much better at this. He didn't mumble or stumble around nearly so much as Arnold.


Did Bustamante claim to be able to take on Dawson as well?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 01:55 PM
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13. And he would have gone to prison for assault and battery
Or worse.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:15 PM
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18. You know, I just want to see laws followed
If somebody breaks the law, no matter who they are, they should get whatever the fair punishment is. I am sick of all these rich and powerful people being above the law. if he broke the law, I would like to see justice for the women he groped. It's supposed to be a country where we are equal, dammit.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:18 PM
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19. Well the statement is funny, but PLEASE
As another posted put it, "Yeah right, Cruz, you and what army?"
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:22 PM
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20. Maybe Cruz and his "army of one" -- one Glock, perhaps??
.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:41 PM
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22. Cruz looked like an idiot
I am sorry, but when I saw Cruz talking about Arnold and how he would settle it up close I thought he looked like a joke. The last thing we need from our leaders is a bunch of macho bullshit. Don't we have enough of this from whistle ass? Cruz had his chance in the debate and he looked like he was a cadaver. He should have won this race easily. People don't like Davis, but as the only Dem in the race, Cruz should have won by a landslide. It really pisses me off that he performed so poorly and we are now left with some hack actor as the leader of the largest state in the union.
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L.A.dweller Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:13 PM
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23. WTF?? dude, it is only 4:20 pm in CA right now and somehow
you already know the results of the election. Come on, i mean come on.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:17 PM
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24. You assume Arnold can be a "leader."
Maybe in the movies if he has a good script...

Sacramento isn't like Hollywood. It's certainly not like Washington D.C. where the President can insulate himself within a "bubble" (as George W. Bush describes it.)

I cannot see Arnold "leading" the California Legislature. Should Arnold somehow "win" this election, he's going to feel like the ass backward dummy in a shooting gallery.

My dad thinks all the dirt on Arnold has already come out. I disagree. I think Arnold's opponents are hoarding it.
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