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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:37 AM
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Woman who accused Bush of raping her found shot in the head.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:40 AM
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1. Her original complaint was posted at Smoking Gun
and frankly I think she was deranged -
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:46 AM
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2. It sounds beyond the pale
Doesn't it? Even for the chimp... at least in this context it does. If it had happened during his whiskey and cocaine days, I'd be more inclined to take it seriously... but posing as FBI agents?
It's a little far fetched for me.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:02 PM
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22. I don't know the story, but...
The thought that * might rape someone isn't to 'far out' sounding to me. I mean - how many college rapes are 'date rapes' or 'acquaintance rapes' - usually perpetrated by entitlement-complex-drink-fuelled fratdaddies. Like *.

Doesn't seem crazy to me at all, on the surface. Of course I would rather believe that he WOULDN'T do something like that.

But then I would also rather believe he didn't invade Iraq and kill thousands of people for sheer greed.....
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:50 AM
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3. Anyone who would represent themselves in such a case...
was most likely a bit deranged. Rest her soul.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:57 AM
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4. It DOES sound like she was mentally ill....
Having said that, though...imagine how often we'd have heard about this if it had been Bill Clinton who had been accused?
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:06 AM
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5. no kidding...
so sick of the double-standard
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:06 PM
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12. If She Was Mentally Ill, Then It's Worse
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 01:06 PM by Dinger
if he raped her, and I think he might have.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:07 PM
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14. "if he raped her, and I think he might have"
Based upon what evidence?
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:23 PM
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16. Circumceptual evidence.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:01 PM
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21. Send him to Gitmo and let our boys work on him to get a
confession. Oh, but torture doesn't really work, so I guess we are going to have to wait for the memoirs to come out after he retires.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:28 PM
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29. Frankly, her story smacks more of delusion than reality...
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:11 AM
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6. another Bush enemy bites the dust
Not surprising.

I hope all Democrats stay out of light planes for the next three years.

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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:15 AM
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7. lets say this happened in 1997
to the big dog.

how fast would it have made the front page of every major newspaper in america? how fast would it have been headlined on CNN/FOX?

those who own the media decides what is news.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:06 PM
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24. They would have forced him to resign,
Now matter how odd the story may have sounded, or how credible the woman was.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:42 AM
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8. A little too close to the grassy knoll...
GW was involved in training assassins back then. Maybe one needed some target practice?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:53 AM
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9. back when bush was young, sewing wild oats
he got 1 girl preg and aborted in 72, it is said, it is up to four abortions with different women. one of them is an under aged black girl.

this woman all these years later filed report with police. it has been documented. then she died of suicide.

we have never touched this story with bush. they let it just sit. along with bush illegitimate son in texas somewhere.

and a nanny hit by a car in the driveway when she was closing a garage door

yes. i would like some answers.
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:16 PM
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10. I'm confused...
when did the rape supposedly take place? What year? Why did she wait so long to press charges, if it was when Bush was doing drugs and drinking?

I'm not passing judgement at all here. These are just questions that popped into my head while reading the links.
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:00 PM
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11. It didn't read to me that it was his wild days
Which makes the allegations seem far fetched. I didn't know if anyone here at DU had any other info on this so I posted it to see what folks knew.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:06 PM
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13. I investigated this way back when
The woman in question had significant mental/emotional problems. There is nothing to the charge.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:19 PM
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15. But you'd have thunk
that Drudge would've at least had a blinky-light for it.

Right?

I mean he ran with the whole John-Kerry-Mistress thing last year, no?
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:25 PM
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17. No so quick.
If you were raped by Bush, and I think you were, wouldn't you have significant mental/emotional problems?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:53 PM
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18. That's rhetorical nonsense
Every rape victim does not go insane.
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MalibuChloe Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:05 PM
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23. you didn't say "insane"
it sounded like you were suggesting that because she had some mental/emotional problems, she couldn't have been telling the truth. What else made you believe she was lying?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:11 PM
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25. A wide variety of things
I spoke to friends of hers who had known her for years. Her delusional problems stretched back well before the alleged rape. Read the complaint itself and tell me what you think. Be sure, however, to compare it to other legal complaints. This one, she wrote herself.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:42 PM
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28. If you read the complaint, it was quite clear that she was mentally ill
It's probably still up at Smoking Gun. She served as her own attorney. The complaint sounded exactly like the ravings of a schizophrenic. This story was never a story and I'm wondering why it's posted here now? It's nonsense.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:37 PM
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27. They do if they're raped by Bush!
And I was just kiddin' Will. LOL!

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:58 PM
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19. She still remained a vocal thorn in their side, however
Whether or not the allegations were true.
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MalibuChloe Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 02:59 PM
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20. That's why there is nothing to the charge?
Women with mental/emotional problems can't get raped?

I'm sure you're right about there being nothing to the charge, but I don't think that's why.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:15 PM
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26. I didn't say that
and you know it.
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:42 AM
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31. Thanks Will
EOM
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:41 PM
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30. You can search DU by her name....
...this has been discussed quite a bit.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:44 AM
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32. Goodness that one has whiskers
Do we have credible sources here?
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:49 AM
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33. Sounds a little too X Files meets Porn to me.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:59 AM
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34. Old news, happened years ago. Sorry to say, rape was debunked.
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