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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:03 AM
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IMPORTANT: To-be Hurricane Rita may surprise attack!
I'm reposting this because people need to pay attention.

KoKo01 dropped this disturbing text in my last thread:



Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog
Last Updated: 2:11 AM GMT on September 19, 2005
Last Comment Added: 3:29 AM GMT on September 19, 2005

Keys residents: pack your bags
Posted By: JeffMasters at 1:59 AM GMT on September 19, 2005
Updated: 2:11 AM GMT on September 19, 2005
Florida Keys residents should seriously consider evacuating tonight. While Rita is still a modest tropical storm, I don't like what I see at all from the latest hurricane hunter report. They found a fairly high pressure, 1004 mb, but flight level winds at 5000 feet were already up to 67 knots-- hurricane force--and a 40% complete eyewall has formed. While the odds are considerably against Rita becoming a Category 3 hurricane by the time it moves through the Keys, it is certainly possible. I'd give it a 10% chance of happening, and if I lived in the Keys, I wouldn't risk staying for that 10% chance. The sudden intensification is happening in the face of about 5 - 10 knots of shear, which one can see impacting the SW side of the storm on satellite imagery. The outflow at upper levels is resricted there, but looking VERY impressive on the north side. Rita seems intent on becoming a Category 1 hurricane Monday, and will probably be a Category 1 or 2 hurricane when it moves through the Keys Monday night. The Keys can handle a Category 2 hurricane--barely.

The Keys take a full 72 hours to evacuate, and now that New Orleans has been taken out by Katrina, the Keys represent the number one most vulnerable area in the U.S. for serious loss of life from a hurricane strike. Even though the evacuation order has already been given for visitors and tourists, not everyone will be able to make it out if Rita suddenly intensifies tomorrow to a Category 3 status.

The nighmare scenario is what happened during the Great Labor Day Hurricane of 1935, which intensified from a tropical storm with 70 mph winds to a Category 5 hurricane with 160 mph winds in just 42 hours as it approached the Keys. Over 400 Keys residents died in the ensuing disaster.

So, if I lived in the Keys, I would start packing my bags now. Hurricane intensity forecasts are not reliable. I would wait until 11:00 tonight and see what the Hurricane Center has to say, and if they also don't like the looks of this storm, I'd hit the road. If you decide not to go, be sure to take another look very early tomorrow morning, after the 5am advisory comes out, and be ready to hit the road early in the morning. Better to be horribly inconvenienced than dead.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html
Jeff Masters



(last thread is here, for reference:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4815756&mesg_id=4815756
)

In addition as noted in the last thread, Rita jogged up to the North of where the computer models were expecting and the more conservative NHC predictions you see on TV won't reflect this until 5AM, and maybe not until 11AM depending on when the two slower models complete.

Don't take chances. Get yourselves or your relatives prepared to get out of the Keys earlier than the authorities say you should, and keep an eye out if you live in South Florida.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:05 AM
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1. It is that puppy behind her & just above Venezuela that has me going.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:08 AM
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2. Yes, there's yet another trifecta brewing.

Philippe is probably not going to hit anything, unless you live on an island too small to see on the map.

But the new "area of interest" is pretty far southward and could scrape close to the coast rather than swing up North like Philippe did.

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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:56 AM
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6. actually, we are here in st. lucia
for 16 months - looks like we're right in the path of philippe. please pray for us if it gets bad. :scared:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:13 AM
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3. Check out the sattelite photo from yesterday.
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baron j Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:36 AM
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4. I always thought they shouldn't use real names.
Make some up, like a sci-fi or fantasy writer. There has to be many poor woman and girls named Katrina who are getting teased or associated with this tragedy.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:42 AM
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7. Hurricane Sauron?
Hurricane Palpatine? That would actually be pretty cool.
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CascadeTide Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:00 AM
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11. how about we name them after neocons
Hurricane Dick
Hurricane Karl
Hurricane Grover
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:02 AM
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12. Hurricane Worf?
Now that one would be nasty. Perhaps we should name all hurricanes for Klingons, Romulans and Ferengi.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:41 AM
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5. and we are almost out of names
Stan
Tammy
Vince
Wilma

That is all we have left and then I think we roll over to the Greek alaphabet...

subjectProdigal
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:51 AM
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8. Hurricane Carla, Sept 11, 1961.
That was only the "C" storm and it was mid September. Now we are having the "R" storm, and another one brewing off Brazil.


Granted that they didn't have satellites back then to spot them early, but ships & planes transiting the areas served to radio in weather observations. So they didn't miss occasions to use up a storm name.

BTW - I was there for Carla, but I was in a shelter well inland.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:56 PM
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23. I remember Carla...
I moved to Houston the January after. Still a mess on Galveston beach, if I remember right.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:07 AM
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19. We do
In the event that more than 21 named tropical cyclones occur in the Atlantic basin in a season, additional storms will take names from the Greek alphabet: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, and so on.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:55 AM
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9. Houston, we have a problem here...
The NHC track keeps trending towards Houston....
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:58 AM
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10. He has updated that and now advises Key residents to stay put.
Even if it does suddenly make it to CAT 3, it won't have time to build up a storm surge.

It will likely be a strong CAT 2, but with a lesser storm surge.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:07 AM
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13. I Don't Like The Path Of Rita...
I am not a meterologist but it sure looks like it's going to hit an occupied area....



Phillipe looks harmless...






http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:52 PM
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22. Yes. Once it gets in the gulf, somebody is in big trouble.
And the waters of the gulf are still very warm, so a CAT 5 is a possibility.

All the models are curving more east as time progresses between model runs. New Orleans & Gulf Coast may get hit again.

I hope I am wrong.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:08 AM
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14. Weather Channel is reporting that there is now a MANDATORY....
...evacuation for ALL visitors AND residents of the keys.

"Stay put"? I don't think so!
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:48 AM
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16. Yes. MANDATORY evacuation for the lower Keys.
Sorry, didn't mean to yell. Just wanted to stress it and reinforce your post. Pretty sure anyone in the area will be checking their weather locally, and not be depending on DU for the latest weather. But it doesn't hurt to have the correct info.

Here's the latest local statement for the Keys:
http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/wxstatement.php?t=HLS&m=09&d=19&y=2005&l=EYW
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:47 PM
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21. It has now changed to a mandatory evacuation.
But as of my posting time, that was what he had on the blog.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:41 AM
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15. Storm surge is not as big a problem
in Key West as one might think. There is a coral reef that protects that area pretty well.....at least in the past it has. Of course wind is always a major concern and heavy rain can cause flooding on it's own.

My advice to anyone living in Key West is GET OUT. Even though in the past the reef has protected Key West well it doesn't mean it will this time.....every storm is different. You have to get out early as the 7 mile bridge is the only road out and it gets congested quickly. The airport closes down early on.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:32 AM
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17. This picture looks ominous
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 08:33 AM by SoCalDem
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movie_girl99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:48 AM
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18. what about Cuba
is it at risk?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:36 AM
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20. LATEST UPDATE! 11:00 a.m/edt from National Hurricane Center/FLA
000
WTNT33 KNHC 191452
TCPAT3
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM RITA ADVISORY NUMBER 7
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT MON SEP 19 2005

...RITA STRENGTHENING OVER THE BAHAMAS...
...NEW WATCHES AND WARNINGS ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTH FLORIDA...

AT 11 AM EDT...1500Z...A HURRICANE WARNING IS ISSUED FOR THE EXTREME
SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA FROM GOLDEN BEACH SOUTHWARD TO FLORIDA
CITY AND WESTWARD TO EAST CAPE SABLE.

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF THE FLORIDA KEYS
FROM OCEAN REEF TO THE DRY TORTUGAS...INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY.

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE EXUMAS AND FOR ANDROS
ISLAND IN THE NORTHWEST BAHAMAS. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN
EFFECT FOR THE TURKS AND CAICOS AND FOR ALL OF THE REMAINDER OF THE
BAHAMAS.

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE CUBAN PROVINCES OF VILLA
CLARA AND MATANZAS. A HURRICANE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE
PROVINCES OF CIUDAD DE HABANA...LA HABANA...AND PINAR DEL RIO. A
TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE PROVINCES OF CIEGO
DE AVILA...SANCTI SPIRITUS...AND CIENFUEGOS.

AT 11 AM EDT...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE
NOW IN EFFECT FROM DEERFIELD BEACH FLORIDA SOUTHWARD TO NORTH OF
GOLDEN BEACH.

AT 11 AM EDT...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ISSUED ALONG THE FLORIDA
EAST COAST FROM NORTH OF DEERFIELD BEACH NORTHWARD TO JUPITER
INLET.

AT 11 AM EDT...A HURRICANE WATCH IS ISSUED FOR THE EXTREME
SOUTHWESTERN FLORIDA PENINSULA FROM WEST OF EAST CAPE SABLE
NORTHWARD TO CHOKOLOSKEE.

AT 11 AM EDT...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS ISSUED FOR THE SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA COAST FROM NORTH OF CHOKOLOSKEE TO ENGLEWOOD.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 11 AM EDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM RITA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 23.0 NORTH... LONGITUDE 75.2 WEST OR ABOUT 195
MILES... 315 KM... SOUTHEAST OF NASSAU AND ABOUT 430 MILES
EAST-SOUTHEAST OF KEY WEST FLORIDA.

RITA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH... 19 KM/HR...
AND THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 65 MPH...100 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...
AND RITA COULD BECOME A CATEGORY ONE HURRICANE TONIGHT.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 145 MILES
...230 KM FROM THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 994 MB...29.35 INCHES.

RITA IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE TOTAL RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 4 TO 6
INCHES OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN AND CENTRAL BAHAMAS...WITH POSSIBLE
ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 8 INCHES. STORM TOTALS OF 6 TO 10
INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES WILL BE
POSSIBLE IN THE FLORIDA KEYS AND NORTHWESTERN CUBA...WITH 3 TO 5
INCHES POSSIBLE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 6 TO 9 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...ALONG
WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...ARE POSSIBLE IN THE
FLORIDA KEYS IN AREAS OF ONSHORE FLOW. COASTAL STORM SURGE
FLOODING OF 3 TO 5 FEET ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE EXTREME SOUTHEASTERN
FLORIDA COAST...AND IN THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS.

REPEATING THE 11 AM EDT POSITION...23.0 N... 75.2 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 65 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 994 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 2 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 5 PM
EDT.

FORECASTER KNABB
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