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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:46 PM
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Fifty bucks a year to read the NEW YORK TIMES?
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:46 PM
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1. For Krugman and Frank Rich, it's almost worth it.
Not quite. I'll have to wait for their books to come out.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:51 PM
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3. Monday no Krugman...
Now i'm gonna take up arms.:mad:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:51 PM
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2. But Judith will be back soon....
and that will make it worth it.....won't it?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:27 PM
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18. Judy!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:52 PM
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4. I don't think this is going to last long
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 07:53 PM by high density
The articles that they're putting a fee on seem so arbitrary (Op-Eds, Business, Sports, and Regional news.) The only thing of those four sections I'm interested in reading from The New York Times are two Op-Ed columnists, and I feel they are not worth $50/year. I think the traffic to their website is going to drop like a rock without the free Op-Ed content.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:32 PM
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20. Precisely
This fee is for Krugman, Rich, et al. Are they worth it? Well, I'd prefer it to be free, certainly, but, as the cliche goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch. If this is a cost/profit issue, then that's fine. You can't expect them to run this at a loss. If it's a screw 'em they have to pay for Krugman issue, then that sucks. I signed up for home delivery of the Sunday Times, which is more than 49.95, but there really is nothing like reading the Sunday Times on paper rather than on the computer, so I don't really begrudge them the charge. Salon charges (or makes you wade through an idiotic ad every time), as do a number of more or less legitimate news sources.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:54 PM
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5. Mo Dowd will be pay-to-read now, too.
Sorry but I think I'll pass.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:55 PM
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6. Sooooo not worth it.
The NYT became a useless rag when they allowed Judas Miller to pump up the case for war. I don't miss The NYT. Nada. Zip. Zilch.
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:58 PM
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7. Great for reading over in microfilm version over Babe Ruth and Maris...
but they've tailed off in the past 40 years.
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:59 PM
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8. HUh
They wanna suck my what?
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:00 PM
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9. Sales of newspapers has been on the decline
And that's not just the New York Times. It has been a long, slow, decline for American newspaper publishing. They have to find new sources or revenue. Even the NYT is a business! Personally, a buck a week to read Paul Krugman, Maureen Dowd, and Frank Rich is worth a buck a week.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:22 PM
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11. Thanks for another view on this. I thought I was a little too nuts
to consider paying, but you do have a point. We let the papers that have more writers who speak out, fold, and we aren't left with much. Print is falling, way down... they do need more revenue. Just something to consider, I still haven't made up my mind about it.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:29 PM
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14. Speaking for myself
I still think the NYT is a great newspaper. I read it via the web. Sure, it's had a few blemishes lately. I am big Krugman fan, I will even read Brooks from time to time. So for me a buck a week isn't a huge deal.
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nvliberal Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:55 PM
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22. Not really true.
Remember, it is advertising which supports newspapers, not subscriptions.

If we don't get the opinion pieces, they will appear on other sites a day or so after they first appear on the NYT.

Frankly the news reports and the obituaries are much more important to me than reading what Dowd or Brooks has to say.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:11 PM
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10. Is it free for Sunday-only subscribers?
Or do you have to take it every day? :shrug:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:26 PM
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12. If you live in Bush's "America", you really do have to take it every day.
:eyes:
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:36 PM
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21. I think it's any home delivery plan
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 09:36 PM by matt819
I signed up for Sundays - hell, I don't even ready my local paper daily. And, let's face it, folks, just for the online access, it's less than $1 a week - that's under $.14 cents a day. How much do you pay for your coffee, etc. I know you've heard all the arguments. Sure, they may drop this program, and, sure, the Times isn't perfect, but crying over less than fifteen cents a day seems a bit churlish.
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cloud_chaser1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 08:26 PM
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13. Its Very Possible....
That the Drudge ReTORT will step in and fill the gap. At least I hope so. I am sure Times columns will be available elsewhere.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:12 PM
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15. Can some of us who get the hard copy
and get the service free post a few paragraphs per sequential post to help out -- or is that a no-no?

Will the next day pubs in secondary newspapers be available in total on the web?

This really frosts me.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:18 PM
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17. As I understand it, if you recieve NYT print news by delivery
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 09:20 PM by freethought
You DO NOT have to pay the additional $50. This $50 fee is directed at those who brouse the NYT website and even then I believe that the fee is paid to gain access to the editorial pages. MoDo, Krugman, Frank Rich, Brooks, and the NYT editorials are big draws. If you get the NYT delivered you're off the hook. In some respects I can't blame NYT for doing this.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:16 PM
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16. Have no fear, Paul Krugman will probably still be here
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:31 PM
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19. I LOVE Krugman

but I am not paying $50 for him
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 09:56 PM
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23. That reminds when me search engines want to charge folks
A couple tried it around 1996 or so.

Didnt last long.

I suspect that this will fair no better.

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 10:42 PM
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24. it'll be free again when they find out nobody's reading their stuff . .n/t
.
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