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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:18 PM
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CIA leak investigator warns against document release
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department and the special counsel investigating the leak of a CIA operative's identity pressed Congress to block legislation that would compel the administration to turn over documents related to the case, the department said in a letter released on Thursday.

The Justice Department, in a letter dated September 14, said special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald had advised that producing documents and holding hearings would interfere with his investigation. The letter was sent to the House Intelligence Committee's Republican chairman, Rep. Peter Hoekstra (news, bio, voting record) of Michigan.

Congressional Democrats have so far failed in their attempts to pass legislation that would force President George W. Bush and the departments of state, justice and defense to provide Congress with documents relating to CIA operative Valerie Plame.

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Lawyers close to the Plame investigation say there are signs that the 20-month-long inquiry could be wrapped up within weeks. The outcome could have major political implications for Bush, whose current approval ratings are the lowest of his presidency.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050916/pl_nm/bush_leak_dc_1

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:22 PM
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1. wrapped up within weeks?
wrapped up? so, no indictments, no trials? how do they wrap it up?
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:29 PM
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2. I think they mean anything could happen then.
"Wrapped up" I think means that Fitz will make indictments or do what ever he needs to do based on his findings. I think they just mean the initial part of the investigation will be wrapped up but then it will move to the courts to see who is guilty and who is not. That is if their are indictments.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:33 PM
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3. And when will Roberts be installed as chief justice? n/t
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:10 AM
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11. After 20 months, something has to come of it
That sure is a long time. One thing leading to another. I'm so nervous about it. Hope it isn't too much longer.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:50 AM
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14. I hope so
Due to how Bush has gotten away with everything so far I'm not holding my breath though. I can hope but I don't want my face to be blue. Heh.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:00 AM
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15. The prosecutor sure holds his cards close to the vest.
Unlike that slime Starr. I will never forgive how Susan McDougall was paraded with the orange jumpsuit and shackles...shackles!
I want pay back...big time!
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:38 PM
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4. Good news right?
I would think if the investigation did not produce any indictments, there would be no reason for the letter on the 14th to the house intelligence committee.
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:40 PM
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5. That's what I was thinking n/t
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:52 PM
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8. Thats the way I was thinking too. nt
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:41 PM
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6. hey now, what is this?
releasing docs, could that hinder, jeopardize the investigation? Is this a legit attempt to quash something in Congress that could derail Fitzgerald?

at the same time, Repugs have stopped the release of info and investigations, so is this a message to Dems? or Repugs?

dp
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:50 PM
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7. fitz is legit leave him alone - read this if you havent already
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 11:50 PM by emulatorloo
The Prosecutor Never Rests
Whether Probing a Leak or Trying Terrorists, Patrick Fitzgerald Is Relentless
By Peter Slevin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 2, 2005; Page C01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A55560-2005Feb1?language=printer
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:11 AM
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9. thanks, but that's from Feb 05
and this is current.

I'm not doubting his prowess. I just want to know who he is trying to stop in Congress from requesting/releasing docs.
On the one hand, releasing info could harm his case. But who will it harm?

and on the other:
The Dems are trying to get more info, and i say more power to them. Is Fitzgerald trying to stop that? and why?

dp
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:29 AM
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10. there were threads on DU that a repug led "investigation" would somehow
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 12:31 AM by emulatorloo
mean that Karl Rove could cut a deal to testify to the committee - which would result in him being immune from prosecution by Fitz.

Well anyway, that was what was argued by some of DU's historians and legal minds.

Therefore if that is the case, Fitz would not want congress messing up his indictments.

PS Fitz is still legit, no matter when the post article was written.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:34 AM
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12. i'll agree he is legit
just looking for the legal angle to not have a Congressional inquiry.

If he's blocking the repugs, more power to him.
just trying to make sure that is the point.

dp
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 02:28 PM
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28. The Congressional investigation should come AFTER the indictments and
trials--in case Bushites defy or ignore court orders, or Bush pardons traitors, or whatever the fallout is going to be. Or if Fitzgerald wasn't able to go far enough, because of stonewalling or lying or withheld documents. Or to expose other perps. Or to impeach "unindicted co-conspirators."

Don't want Bush's "pod people" in Congress to interfere, or grant immunity--nor any toadying, deal-making, spineless Democrats either.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:59 PM
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29. thanks
i was just wondering about Fitz's request, and the simultaneous move by the repugs.

:tinfoilhat:


dp
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:30 AM
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17. I agree. They are trying to sink the investigation, which means
Fitzy's really on to something.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:36 AM
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18. this seems most likely..
I expect the administration and their minions on the hill will try to derail this investigation by any means available....

I will stick with Fitz..
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:36 AM
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19. this seems most likely..
I expect the administration and their minions on the hill will try to derail this investigation by any means available....

I will stick with Fitz..
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:28 AM
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16. kick
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:36 AM
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20. Remember what happened to Ollie North?
He went to trial was found guilty and then had the conviction overturned. Why? Because of his testimony before Congress.

Same old, same old, this time. Repug Congress hold investigation and ruins trial, thereby allowing perps to walk.

Nope, I want Fitzy to hold his cards close to his vest and lock Rove et al tight into a cell.

If he doesn't, then AFTER the 2006 congress-critter election, when there is a Dem majority back in charge, they can go get'em.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:47 AM
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21. thanks for your post . . . eom
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:25 AM
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22. kick . . . n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:52 AM
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23. Fitz is Smart: NO CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS MEANS NO IMMUNITY!!!!
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 09:53 AM by Beetwasher
He's trying to preempt the move by congressional Repubs to grant immunity (see Iran Contra) to people who are going to be indicted.

If the Congress holds hearing, they can grant immunity to all the key players in order to get them to testify, including Rove. Fitz is trying to stop this from happening.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 10:55 AM
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24. If that's true he is one hell of a chess player. n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:49 AM
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27. Yup This is FANTASTIC NEWS, This Tells Me There WILL BE INDICTMENTS!!!
n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:08 AM
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26. "Fitz is Smart: But getting no help from Dem senators...!
"Congressional Democrats have so far failed in their attempts to pass legislation that would force President George W. Bush and the departments of state, justice and defense to provide Congress with documents relating to CIA operative Valerie Plame".
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:00 AM
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25. bring it on, tis time. did cindy and katrina, now plame's turn
again..............
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