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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:16 PM
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Rep. Ron Paul votes against Katrina relief
http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2005&rollnumber=460

Just because somebody is right on one issue doesn't mean we should give a free pass to their social Darwinist agenda.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:17 PM
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1. Whats with the rep from LA voting against it? eom
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:22 PM
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5. That's Iowa I believe nt
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:24 PM
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11. Steve King (IA, crazy loony Republican)
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2bfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:18 PM
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2. Ron Paul is my rep..................
And he is as crazy as a bed bug!
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:21 PM
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3. Protest vote perhaps?
I mean really FEMA gets the money, and do you trust FEMA?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:23 PM
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6. ~~waving my hand! waving my hand! waving my hand!~~~~ Don't trust them
one bit. :hi:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:25 PM
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12. HI! OmmmSweetOmmm
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:28 PM
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31. Thanks a bunch hiley & hi!!! It was a Great Speech. Quite a follow-up
to Cynthia McKinney! She was Amazing and got censured. :(
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:23 PM
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9. That's what I was thinking
There's a vote coming up on the 50 billion relief and repubs won't allow for any kind of revamping of FEMA to make it more functional.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:31 PM
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15. Exactly
Guess we will have to read it..
There is no telling what is in it and with FEMA well you know.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:22 PM
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4. is there anything in that bill that shouldn't be
some kind of clause that says Bush won't be held accountable?
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:23 PM
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8. That's what I'm saying. There must be some reason
that ppl vote against it; something must be in the bill.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:28 PM
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14. I don't think they have even had
time to read it yet!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:24 PM
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10. Get out of jail free cards? nt
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:23 PM
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7. Ron Paul is very libertarian in his voting
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 07:25 PM by ISUGRADIA
so anti-war, anti-CAFTA, anti-NAFTA, anti most all federal programs and aid. A laissez faire, 1896 kind of Republican for small government.

That also means he is no progressive: against civil rights laws, social security, medicare, medicaid, any thing other than national defense and post offices more or less. Someone I'd never vote for.

EDIT for spelling
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:43 PM
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23. For what it's worth, I support the excellent speech
:shrug:

Thanks for the info.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:46 PM
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27. I'm down with any Republican who has the cojones to go against
the Emperor. But just want to avoid the impression some may get that he's any kind of liberal. One post a few weeks ago was trying to say he was a progressive which is not true.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:26 PM
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13. Thank You Sir!!!
People are swooning over Rep Paul over on another thread. All I got for my trouble of providing factual informaiton about him was a snarky "thanks for sharing". I guess they don't want their love fest interrupted.

FACT: Ron Paul is/was affiliated with the Republican Liberty Caucus, a political group that wants to push a small-l libertarian agenda.

FACT: The RLC affiliated themselves with Reagan Republicans, because at the time they wanted to, as an RLC-er of my acqaintance put it, "fish where the fish are".

FACT: Ron Paul was pro-Nader.

FACT: Ron Paul is virulently anti-choice, which is an awfully funny position for a small-l libertarian, don't you think?

Now, from all of the above, it's easy to see that Ron Paul is simply an opportunist, who is now "fishing where the fish are" on our side because he's gotten all he can from the other side.

Ron Paul wants to drown government in the bathtub just as much as Grover Norquist does. He DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME.

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:43 PM
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24. FACT: Ron Paul is a lunatic
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:33 PM
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16. So did Cynthia McKinney (D, GA).
I saw her House floor speech a little while ago, and she was passionate.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:35 PM
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18. Did you catch the mp3
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:35 PM
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19. No, she voted for it
These are the nays:

Barton (TX)
Flake
Foxx
Garrett (NJ)
Hostettler
King (IA)
Otter
Paul
Sensenbrenner
Tancredo
Westmoreland
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:46 PM
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26. May have been a different bill.
But she did mention she was one of six no votes.
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Witchy_Dem Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:34 PM
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17. So what's the libertarian agenda on payroll once they get their reduced
gov't rolls down to miniscule? Fatter paychecks for civil servants? Who gets all the money? Do they propose that elected officials do? Where do all the newly unemployed people work once their jobs are removed?
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:36 PM
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20. 90% of the money in the bill goes to FEMA--Harry Reid mentioned this
And FEMA hasn't done jack.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:36 PM
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21. I never heard of him until
today, damn good speech but that is all I think about him.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:42 PM
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22. He's very good at opposing the war
He doesn't like bush and that's a plus. Other than that I can't think of a kind thing to say about him.

It's fun to send out his anti war speeches to RW types who know nothing about him just to make their heads explode. I suppose that's another good thing.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:43 PM
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25. Oh I had not thought of
that, very good idea! Lone_Star_Dem very good !
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:53 PM
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28. OMFG you didn't take a second to think that FEMA would be spending it
He's voting against giving FEMA the money to waste in Bush's Honeypot.
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jamesglines Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:56 PM
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29. my thoughts exactly
the only reason I could come up with, was the same. Why give money to people who abused it before, and not to those who need it?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 08:13 PM
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30. The last I heard, no rep had *seen* the bill, let alone read it
The ONLY reason to vote for it was political- that it would look bad.

If they were doing their job, everyone would have voted against it. The function of Congress is not to hand the executive a blank check, but to oversee funding.
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