here's some links re: FEMA and concentration camps . . .

[OneBlueSky]

that I ran across while scrounging around my bookmarks . . . I can't vouch for the relaibility of any of this info; simply passing it on FYI . . .

FEMA Concentration Camps: Locations and Executive Orders
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

American Concentration Camps
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

U.S. Concentration Camps: FEMA and the REX 84 Program
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

FEMA Detention Camps: Re-Inventing the Mousetrap
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_031603_camps.html

What Next? . . . Concentration Camps?
http://www.counterpunch.org/shivani0813.html

[bliss_eternal]

1. Thank you for these!

I'm bookmarking your post...

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

2. Uhh...

Last I checked, people were being relocated to hotels and private homes, as opposed to being held in spooky "concentration camps" against their will. But go ahead and believe this gibberish if you want to.

[notadmblnd]

3. I know for a fact that at least 250 are being housed

here in Battle Creek Michigan at "Fort Custer". I haven't heard about these people being held against their will yet. I guess I can drive up over the weekend and see for myself how they are being treated.. whether or not they are free to come and go at their pleasure.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

8. So you admit that you don't know what you're talking about. n/t

[notadmblnd]

11. I admit no such thing. I'm not the OP

but I do know that I can't trust my government and unlike most sheeple I am willing to go see for myself.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

13. We already know full well that many are living in squalor...

...because the government has failed to provide adequate resources. Again, what the hell does that have to do with anyone being held against their will?

[OneBlueSky]

4. tell that to these people . . .

I Just Got Back from a FEMA Detainment Camp
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html

[OKNancy]

5. Once again this is bogus

If you read the entire thing, the writer's point is that it is a nice place, really pretty, but remote.
But the biggest thing that makes it bogus is there are no evacuees there and there probably never will be any at Falls Creek.

http://www.kten.com/article.asp?id=10006

[notadmblnd]

6. Yes nancy, I've heard that the "relocation" efforts have been put on hold

for now. Media is saying it's because the survivors do not want to leave without having found family members, checking their homes, collecting the necessary documentation to start over and are objecting to being relocated so far from home. and officials are saying they want to "process" the people that have already been dispursed.


As I said earlier, I will be driving to BattleCreek this weekend to see for myself (you see I can no longer take any officials word as gospel) how people are being treated. My recommendation to all of the people who do not want to believe that our government has evil intentions in regards to these survivors is to go see for yourselves and then decide what the truth is.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

9. And what of the hundreds of thousands of people...

...who are being housed in hotels, private homes, churches, etc? Are they being held against their will? Where exactly do you suggest we house people until they can be relocated? I see no intent here with respect to permanently detaining people against their will.

[notadmblnd]

12. I never claimed that was not being done.

but there are people who are being housed around the country in camps. I have no objection to this as long as these people are free to come and go as they please.

My original thought on this is that the survivors should have been evacuated to camps in La. IMO there is no reason to dispurse people thousands of miles away from their homes if they do not want to be located thousands of miles away. LA is a big state with a lot of land, tent cities, camps.. whatever can be set up there to allow people to be close to their homes and participate in the rebuilding of their communities.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

15. There's no way LA alone can accomodate that many refugees.

And it takes time to set up refugee camps. They had to go with whatever was available - hence the Astro Dome, etc. Personally, I'd much rather have them in a place with an existing medical and emergency infrastructure, rather than in the Louisiana hinterland where hospitals and communications infrastructure might be miles away.

As for the rebuilding of their communities, nobody has any idea when that might get underway. God only knows how long it will take to decontaminate New Orleans after the water is gone - assuming such a job is even possible.

The best suggestion I've heard is that they should immediately start training as many of the willing-to-return refugees as possible in construction techniques, decontamination, etc. I think it would be marvelous to have them rebuild their city, acquiring many valuable skills along the way. It could really transform Louisiana in the process.

[OKNancy]

10. I know from a dear friend who has

been volunteering at Camp Gruber ( it's just 45 minutes away from me) that things are going great there. They have so many locals and volunteers that they are turning them away. My friend took a family shopping. The administration has a lot to answer for, but this over the top stuff does no good for our cause IMO.

[notadmblnd]

16. and what is our cause?

mine is making sure that these people are treated properly and given the assistance that most humans would expect if this kind of devastation occured in their communities. I've already seen how our government left these people trapped in a arena with no food or water for days and I have no doubt in my mind that if people like us here at DU had not made such a big stink about it.. that instead of the Superdome being an empty deserted building now.. would be a huge crypt.

[notadmblnd]

17. I truly think that the public outcry of the treatment of these survivors

has gone a long way in impeding what this admin may have had planned for them.

I hope I'm wrong about our governments intentions, I truly am, but I know I can't trust them and I feel compelled not to take anyones word at this point.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

7. I see no detainment occuring.

And there's a difference between an "evacuation point" and a "Detainment Camp" and a "Concentration Camp"

I see some clothes and some cots.

[Jara sang]

14. Mount Weather

wouldn't put it past them, their command center at Mount Weather is probably the most secure base in the country. Doesn't look like a "disaster relief" center and it's where Cheney went after 9/11.

http://www.fema.gov/rrr/weather.shtm