Are There FEMA Internment Camps w/fences, armed guards??

[rrrevolution]

There are postings that make such allegations.

By the way, how do you disburse 500,000 people across the US, provide them with housing, clothing, food, water, and a place to work or go to school?

[bobbieinok]

1. DU THREAD ABT 'FENCES' AT CAMP IN CO + 2 ABT CAMP IN OK

[preciousdove]

2. Only some because they are military facilites or were.

Links to articles on relocation sites here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4657680&mesg_id=4657680

A lot of evacuees are making themselves scarce today. Don't know about tomorrow.

[charmsicle]

3. It's called "Volunteers"

People offering to house the evacuees. But I don't think they've figured out the school thing, yet. But hey, some of them have apartments already!

[tx_dem41]

5. In Texas, they are being enrolled in the local school districts. n/t

[justabob]

12. Yep, 30 so far at my son's school in Dallas nt

[tx_dem41]

13. Welcome to DU, justabob.

I'm a fellow Dallasite!

:toast:

[justabob]

14. Hi (or howdy :) ) and thanks! nt

[SeattleGirl]

4. I read a number of posts on this today so

I called the offices of my senators and my representative, and all three men I spoke to in those offices said they had been receiving tons of calls on this situation. I've seen pictures of fences, and read reports of armed soldiers. This is despicable!

[LunaSea]

6. google "REX84"

[NYC]

8. Googled.

http://www.vermilion-sands.com/music/rex84.html

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), founded 1979 to the Civil Defense program, answers to the President, via the National Security Council. A Miami Herald article published 5 July 1987 reported that U.S. Marine Lt. Col. Oliver North, then employed to draw up national security contingency plans, often met then FEMA director Louis O. Giuffrida between 1982 and 1984. They allegedly discussed FEMA's role in the event of civil unrest and the imposition of martial law. Giuffrida produced a plan for mass roundup and imprisonment of subversives, recycled from a plan he had devised in 1970 for the Army War College in case of an uprising of black militants.

The Miami Herald got a copy of the 2 Aug 1984 memo detailing the plan, to be included in an Executive Order or National Security Directive that President Reagan was supposed to sign. According to various right-wing web pages, this is NSDD 58. The Herald story says it's unclear whether it was signed.

REX-84, according to the Winter 1990 (#33) issue of the Covert Action Information Bulletin, was a series of simulations designed to coordinate the various agencies, civilian and military, needed under the above arrangement. One of these wargames was called REX-84/Night Train.

While taxpayer money went to set all this up, FEMA itself lost the ability to do its ostensible job, which was to be of some use during a real emergency. The CAIB cites a memo to this effect written by then Attorney General William French Smith. Eight years later, FEMA proved itself useless after Hurricane Andrew struck Florida in 1992. Habitat For Humanity showed them up. FEMA was subsequently overhauled.

The concentration camps reportedly mentioned in the Giuffrida plans were probably never built, though various right-wing websites claim to have photos. The irony is that these people probably worship Ollie, who hosts a whiny right-wing radio show, and attribute the putative REX-84 camps to Clinton and his secret UN/New World Order army.

More at link.

[moondust]

7. If they are present or former military bases

the fences and armed guards may be permanent fixtures that have been there for a long time. If the armed guards/MPs have been added for the evacuees they'll just say it's for these people's security.

[spuddonna]

9. Check out these links...

This one I found in another DU thread...
(WARNING: PIC heavy, long load time for dial-up) http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html

I found the above at this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4671658&mesg_id=4671658

Seriously disturbing... These citizens will not be allowed to leave the 'camp' and will only receive 2 meals a day...

[OneBlueSky]

10. and check out these links, too . . .

scrounged around my bookmarks and found several articles and websites devoted to this issue . . . I can't vouch for the relaibility of any of this info; simply passing it on FYI . . .

FEMA Concentration Camps: Locations and Executive Orders
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

American Concentration Camps
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

U.S. Concentration Camps: FEMA and the REX 84 Program
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

FEMA Detention Camps: Re-Inventing the Mousetrap
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_031603_camps.html

What Next? . . . Concentration Camps?
http://www.counterpunch.org/shivani0813.html

[Karenina]

11. The PRISON industry

is also big bidness. VERY big bidness.