Support the "FIRE MICHAEL BROWN" movement

[alcibiades_mystery]

The right wing's plan to backdoor Kathleen Blanco weakened inexorably with thre flood of documents over the weekend, particularly the provisions of the December 2004 NPR, and collapsed completely today in her meeting with Bush. That's obvious enough. They'll make minor noises in this direction for a few weeks, but it's dead. No traction, and no oomph. The minute she refused to allow Bush to federalize the Louisiana National Guard she placed the responsibility for the disaster back on FEMA, where it well and truly belongs. The meeting today was a final strong-arm tactic,m and Blanco didn't blink. they're on to Plan B: scuttle Michael Brown.

We should help them push him overboard.

A lot of people here think that Brown will be the minor scapegoat that allows Chertoff and Bush to escape responsibility. that's why Malkin, John Gibson at Fox News, and Lou Dobbs are trumpeting his obvious lack of qualifications and management skills. We've seen it all before: the bad apple strategy. That's true. But this time it's different:

1) Chertoff allowed Brown to continue on at FEMA even after he took charge; to call Brown an incompetent manager is the same as to call Chertoff an incompetent administrator, and, a fortiori, Bush is an incompetent executive.

2) Bush has never fired anyone for anything but disputing him. Bush has never had any accountability at all. Accountability here will be the first chink in his armor.

3) It will throw the right wing spinners into confusion. They've been told to push the message that responsibility lies at the state and local level. Brown's firing would be a de facto admission of culpability at the federal level by Bush himself, thereby destroying their arguments. Push this hard!!!

[stevedeshazer]

1. I'm all for firing Brownie, but how does this help?

It's not going to hurt Bush or even Chertoff. It just takes the heat off. I don't get how this helps. :shrug:

[speedoo]

2. I don't see either.

He's obviously incompetent and he should be fired for that. But I don't see the political benefit, except possibly for the Coward.

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. Oh, I thought that's what I was explaining...

:shrug:

[CantGetFooledAgain]

5. I got your explanation...

...and I agree with it.

The firing of a federal official for gross incomptence would set a desireable precedent. And, I think it's going to happen.

Who appointed this horse lawyer to be in charge of people's lives, anyway. Hmmm, who could it be...?

[speedoo]

18. I understand what you are saying.

I am just much less optimistic than you are about the domino effect.

I'd much rather focus on going after the Coward directly. He has never been in such a weak position.

[alcibiades_mystery]

19. The domino effect has to be created

And it can only be created with a united front.

I don't think Bush is that vulnerable yet. Once a few building blocks are put in place (Brown, Chertoff), then Bush's vulnerability increases by orders of magnitude. His defenders will have a much harder time deflecting blame if Bush admits de facto blame by firing Brown.

[NNN0LHI]

4. I support firing the person who hired Brown n/t

[Media_Lies_Daily]

6. Absolutely NOT!! Herr Busch is the guy responsible for this mess....

...and he needs to be impeached and removed along with the rest of the NeoCons squatting illegally in the centers of U. S. power.

Firing Brown will do absolutely NOTHING.

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. You gotta start somewhere

Brown's firing may actually happen. The point is to be behind it, then keep pushing once that first domino falls.

Your strategy is to yell for impeachment NOW!!! and suchwise? Good on ya, but I think this has to happen in steps, rather than in one fell swoop.

Did you even read my explanation. I took your argument fully into account in the original post.

[MadeinOhio]

7. Fire him after Lee Witt takes over. Not before.

And demand Bush and Rice's resignations non-stop.

[markus]

9. Not good enough. We want Chertoff, too

A grand jury should be impanelled tomorrow in Baton Rouge, and they should be required to post bond so that they won't leave the state.

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[alcibiades_mystery]

10. Did you read the POST?!?

You can't get Chertoff unless you get Brown first. Oy.

[Walt Starr]

11. It's more important to FIRE MICHAEL CHERTOFF! n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. OMG

I give up...

[Booster]

16. Don't give up. I get your point and it's a great one. If we can get

the dimson to finally admit he made a mistake in hiring someone who was just so unqualified and thousands of people died because of his choice, the veneer will start to peel off and people will realize just what a bad choice was made for president. I'm all for such a movement.

[Manix]

13. Don't expect anyone to be fired unless they talk out of school.

They obviously want to nail the LA Gov and NO mayor for this!

[elehhhhna]

14. Why Mike Brown was FIRED from the Int'l Arab. Horse Assn:

Q: Why do you feel that prior to his resignation, Mr. Brown repeatedly stated that he does “not have the support of the Executive Committee”?

A: ... However, information that came to light at the August Board meeting — the revelation that Brown had set up his own legal defense fund — severely eroded that support. This revelation created the appearance of impropriety, especially when he’d been saying that he had commitments of a great deal of money for IAHA’s Legal Defense Fund which never materialized, and then it turned out he’d been out soliciting funds for his own, personal, legal defense fund.
Mr. Brown has been defended by IAHA to the fullest degree all the way along. At the August Board Meeting when this all came to light, he said that he felt the need to set up his own legal defense fund to protect the assets of his family. Yet IAHA has been paying all of his legal bills. We have paid for the attorney he chose to use, and he’s never been refused coverage, so we don’t know why he felt he needed further protection. Furthermore, IAHA indemnified him, meaning that we hold him harmless for whatever he does as he functions in his job.



http://www.ahwmagazine.com/11ahw00/departments/what_world.html

[ignatius 2]

15. How about a fire GW Bush action. After all, he hired the guy

and many others with absolutely no credentials. The CEO should go for crimes,lies,misdemeanors and ineptness.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. Yes...that would be the point

You keep trying to get Bush fired first, and I hope others will take the more pragmatic action of getting Brown fired first and pushing from there.

[chicagiana]

20. I REFUSE !!!

I'm in the IMPRISON MICHAEL BROWN camp!!!!

I'm in the IMPEACH BUSH camp!!!