WWL-TV: First Cholera death reported

[gp]

on press conference right now www.wwltv.com

[spuddonna]

1. oh no...

going to watch...

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. Likely not gonna be the last :^(

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[thecrow]

32. Last one we'll hear about though. Military has been sent to hush

up the facts.

[CountAllVotes]

3. uh huh .....

and the real terror hath begun!



And they were right of course ... hell is a comin ...

:kick:

[SW FL Dem]

4. I have a friend who is a nurse in Biloxi

She is seeing multiple deaths from flesh eating bacteria, cause by cut during the flooding. The oyster shells brought in during the storm surge contain the bacteria and people stepping on them are getting cut.

[wellstone dem]

11. but but but

taking shoes is looting, don't take shoes, it's looting.

[mod mom]

21. My husband nearly died from this. It is rapid and horrific. :(

[skooooo]

22. omg

Isn't there something they can give people right away to take care of most of these infections??

[moondust]

41. Necrotizing fasciitis?

Bad, very bad.

[AlienGirl]

50. MRSA has developed flesh-eating properties as well. nt

[rainbow4321]

63. Which is why the CDC and EPA are not being heard from...

Cuz if word got out on what these refugees may have/do have or been exposed to, cities may not be welcoming them as willingly as they are now.

I thought about going down to where Dallas' are staying to see if they need volunteers, but I am a little worried that afterwards I would be hearing "there has been an outbreak of xxx at Reunion Arena/other site".

As a health care worker, I am wondering what kind of patients we will be seeing at our facility over the next few weeks. We don't have enough isolation rooms to take an influx of people needing to be in TB isolation.

I hope the communities where the refugees moniter the disease stats for a while.

The refugees are being given tetanus and typhoid vaccinations prior to transport, but that by no means covers everything they can get.

[OneGrassRoot]

5. ?? I watched but didn't see it mentioned.........

saw the reporter's wrap-up but she didn't say that word. They're not talking about it now.

[gp]

10. a reporter asked

about a confirmed case of cholera in one of the shelters as he put it,

the spokesperson couldnt confirm it himself, but wouldnt be surpised if that were the case...deferred question to CDC folks, would have more info later.

[OneGrassRoot]

18. thanks.....n/t

[CountAllVotes]

19. they don't want to "talk" about it now

They will wait until they have a whole country filled with corpses that have died of diseases that have spread from this horrific disaster!

Don't talk - shut-up eh?

:kick:

[ClintonTyree]

20. Unfortunately, they'll be talking about it a lot more..........

in the next few weeks. You won't be able to miss it, this is terrible.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

6. It was just a matter of time. I immediately had thought of that and watch

for yellow fever.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. This is very bad

Not surprising nor unexpected, but very bad.

For those who don't know exactly how bad Cholera is here's a link

http://www.who.int/topics/cholera/en/

[thedailyshow]

8. my god....

[kodi]

9. good thing the evacuees were dispersed over a million square miles, eh?

i first mentioned chlorea on-site here tuesday morning, and had expected it before now. i presumed that is why the authorities were not letting evacuees out on their own on friday. fear of it spreading.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

12. You have to ingest the bacteria to get cholera

"Cholera is an acute intestinal infection caused by ingestion of food or water contaminated with the bacterium Vibrio cholerae."
http://www.who.int/topics/cholera/about/en/

It usually spreads in areas of infected food and water supplies.

New Orleans is like a third world country right now. The people there are at a high risk and the longer they remain the higher the risk of contracting the disease.

[fishwax]

15. That's what I had thought too. Thanks for posting the info n/t

[kodi]

46. don't you think that will also happen as evacuee sites get inundated?

will they be able to keep sanitary the astrodome or tent cities that will have to spring up all along the delta region?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

51. Once these people are removed from the infected water

No, I don't. The Vibrio cholerae is in the contaminated water there not in the locations where these people are being moved to.

Even in third world countries its very rare to hear of a case of Vibrio cholerae infection caused by person to person contact. Epidemics come from areas where the sewer and drinking water combine.

I seriously don't think that these people will be drinking sewer contaminated water once they are evacuated.

[CountAllVotes]

14. uh huh again ..........

That is why they wouldn't let the Red Cross in to New Orleans - a big huge toxic pit filled with contamination and diseases, many of which are unknown because they are in the bayou, the hell pit of the south where no one that goes in ever comes out.

:grr:

:kick:

[skooooo]

24. How could anyone have foreseen this???

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:


This is so sad.

[MissB]

13. The public health nightmare is just beginning.

This is why the people should've been removed from New Orleans much, much quicker.

How horrifying.

[CountAllVotes]

16. moving them to various destinations

will result in HELL to pay! These people should have ALL been isolated. It is just beginning now. Give it another week ...

OMG ... Holy hell is indeed here! NO ONE IS EXEMPT! Many many many more WILL die!

:kick:

[VTMechEngr]

40. Fecal-oral disease. Very easy to control

[kestrel91316]

53. Relax. While this is tragic for the victim(s), it poses little or

more likely ZERO public health threat once folks have access to clean drinking water. We may see MANY cases in the people who in desperation or accidentally consumed the contaminated flood waters. But cholera is NOT spread through the air, or directly from person to person. It is spread via the fecal-oral route. Person with the bacteria in their GI tract poops. Poop contaminates water. Somebody drinks the contaminated water and gets infected.

This is why we have PUBLICALLY FUNDED WATER TREATMENT PLANTS. Your tax dollars at work, keeping you healthy.

[ClintonTyree]

25. Or plugged that levee.........

but they DID have one or two helicopters dropping some sand bags in a 300 yard long breech. What more could they possibly do? :sarcasm:

[sakabatou]

17. Cholera, dysentary...

what next Bush? Plaugue?!

:grr:

[CountAllVotes]

23. Diptheria, TB, Hepatitis ... the list goes on and on

and then all those disease they don't even know about that exist in the bayou.

WE ARE ALL SCREWED IMO and NO ONE is exempt this time around my friends, NO ONE, not even YOU!

:kick:

[skooooo]

26. ...being taken to hospitals all over.

These diseases could spread all over the place - even to people who weren't near the flood.

[CountAllVotes]

27. I know and I have been posting this all week

to ears that care not to hear, minds that care not to think. Reality is here my friends. Who will survive I ask? Those with compromoised immue systems are goners for certain, those on chemotherapy and immune suppresant drugs - also history. Natural immunity will be the only thing that can save any of us. Only the strong will survive and the weak will all die.

My what a fine fucking country we have filled with a bunch of stupid damn idiots running the show! :grr: :grr: :grr:

:kick:

IMPEACH THIS SOB NOW!

[AlienGirl]

28. Since most are spread via the fecal-oral route

The diseases that are spread via the fecal-oral route, while a hazard to the people who were in contact with contaminated flood water, will not be a problem once they're in hospitals with modern sanitation facilities.

Tucker

[OneGrassRoot]

30. Other than tuberculosis, can you think of anything airbone? n/t

[AlienGirl]

33. The more dangerous ones IMO will be

Yellow fever, transmitted by mosquito; typhus, which can be transmitted by fleas on rats (or cats or opossums); and various flesh-eating bacteria, which are spread by skin-to-skin contact. (Methicillin-resistant staph is already wild in many areas of the country.)

Tucker

[CountAllVotes]

36. cockroaches galore in the south

don't ever underestimate what diseases they carry. And birds - heard of the bird flu have you? There is another one.

Skin diseases oh yes - easily picked up from contamination. Ring-worm, etc. The list goes on and on and on and on.

God help all of us!

:kick:

[shanti]

47. the bird flu

is supposed to hit the u.s. at the end of the year or so. it's already in eastern europe.

god help us all.

[Sparkly]

59. And this administration is clearly CLUEless about how to deal with

a massive healthcare crisis.

[skooooo]

61. Just pray, and God will take care of us.

[kestrel91316]

54. Don't forget rabies in the unvaccinated pets that got loose.

[CountAllVotes]

34. Malaria, West Nile Virus

there are more no doubt. My mind is running on overkill at the moment. Ever known one that has lived with malaria? I have. Not a pretty site.

Who knows how many other diseases will will see. I am not a health official, but I worked for many years in this industry.

No doubt in my mind. Death is on the doorstep of many that think they are "safe". What a fucking joke. A sad, horrific fucking joke.

:kick:

[CountAllVotes]

31. uh huh again ..........

I am so very reassured now ... modern sanitation facilities ... far too late for that. The diseases have already incubated and now the dying will begin. Too little way too late. What a monster they have created. It may in fact kill "them" too.

:kick:

[AlienGirl]

37. People who were exposed to flood water are at a high risk for contracting

Those who are taking care of exposed people can prevent getting infected by scrupulous hand-washing before handling food.

Tucker

[OneGrassRoot]

39. stupid question, AlienGirl..........

what does the figure next to your screen name indicate?

[AlienGirl]

43. The little grey ghost?

It means I'm a moderator.

Tucker

[OneGrassRoot]

44. thanks much....*S*.....n/t

[CountAllVotes]

45. and where was the food and the sanitization?

THERE WAS NONE DAMNIT! wHAT WORLD ARE YOU LIVING IN EXACTLY? A world aka DENIAL! All of these people should have been evacuated and put in quarantine!




:kick:

[AlienGirl]

48. Calm down a minute and listen to what I'm saying

There are undoubtedly a lot of people who were exposed to cholera. Many of the ones who were already exposed will contract it.

However, the people who are not *already* exposed do not need to be exposed, and can *prevent* exposure with proper sanitation, thereby preventing an epidemic. And IMO the best way to ensure proper sanitation is by getting the survivors to unaffected areas of the country quickly, where we have intact sewer systems, hospitals, and other safeguards.

Tucker

[Sparkly]

60. Isn't there a form of dysentery that's contagious?

Or no?

[AlienGirl]

62. Shigellosis can be spread by fomites, but it's still fecal-oral

That is, a person with shigellosis might not wash their hands after using the toilet, then might touch something, then another person touches the same thing and doesn't wash their hands before eating. Again, if both people wash their hands, it doesn't spread.

Tucker

[kestrel91316]

55. Why on earth would a cholera patient need to be put into quarantine?

(remember, this IS a trick question. I have a microbiology degree)

[mod mom]

69. Reverse Isolation? Because their immune system is compromised? I'm not.

[fishwax]

35. TB would only be a problem

if one of the people crammed into those domes or other facilities had an active case. Cholera, Dyptheria, Typhoid, Hepatitis--these aren't communicated through the air, they're the result of ingesting unsafe material.

[CountAllVotes]

42. TB is ALREADY a problem

Recent outbreaks have been occurring since the mid 1990s. Where I worked a young man found out he had TB. Seems his mother had TB and she did not know it!

He was shippped off for treatment. Whether he lived or died I do not know.

I DO know however that at least 10 members of my immediate family died of TB. One was an uncle that was living with my aunt. She did not catch it from him nor did her son or husband. However, his brother did catch it and he died the following year. Did his wife catch it? No - just him. And from where did he catch it? We do not know!

and then again we have the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. Viral no doubt - killed my other uncle. Need more examples?

:kick:

[fishwax]

49. well, yeah, I know TB has been popping up lately

heard recently about a worker at an airline pilot who caught it and it was contained. But we're tlaking specifically about the nola situation here, and while there may me complications for people in close quarters with someone with an active case, it doesn't follow that their evacuation to houston means houston will soon be leveled. As for cholera, et al, they won't be a problem unless you actually ingest the bacteria.

There are certainly health risks to consider, I don't deny that. Diseases spread by mosquitos, in particular, will probably be a real problem.

[AirAmFan]

29. This is what happens when an arrogant and presumptuous MORON

gets control of a country.

Just as before and during 9/11, Bush ignored warnings from informed people like Richard Clarke, sat on his hands when the feared event finally happened, and praised the incompetent bumblers he had appointed to be responsible.

At least this time he can't PANIC and take out the airline industry, Wall Street, and the economy. Remember the "Where's Waldo" aspect of 9/11, with Commander Bunnypants flying from hidey-hole to deeper hidey-hole?

The question now is, what OTHER way (besides panic flight from Washington) will he find to take down the economy with this disater?

[graywarrior]

38. Bush is a mass murderer.

I won't even say what goes on in my mind about his punishment.

[daleo]

52. And imagine how many carcinogens are in that water.

That takes a few years though.

[Wizard777]

56. Where is WHO and CDC? n/t

[Wizard777]

58. Plague and Pestilence is leaving the stall. It's about to ride out.

We can't do this one step at a time. We need a concerted effort to take that Horseman down!

[mod mom]

70. bu$h/cheney '04 providing plague and pestilence into the new millenium.

Catchy.

[Olney Blue]

66. CDC- barely surviving on an inadequate budget

[growlypants]

57. And so it begins.....................

[applegrove]

64. Can you inoculate for that? Or do we have to stop all white

people from being first responders and replace them all with Native Americans (who have dealt with cholera for thousands of years).

[NorthernSpy]

65. cholera is spread through contaminated water and food...

... person-to-person transmission is very rare.

FWIW...

[demobabe]

67. Additionally Cholera can be easily cured

As long as the person can be rehydrated and kept hydrated. Antibiotics help it go away faster.

[pitohui]

68. cholera jabs ineffective, however, some here are pot-stirring

cholera vaccine was withdrawn from the usa some time ago, as it doesn't work

but who cares, you are not going to catch cholera from the refugees

as one of the displaced i resent the implication spread by some that we are disease-vectors spreading illness around the nation

some wouldn't be happy unless every poor person & every southerner was drowned, i suppose

we not spreading cholera, typhus, malaria, yellow fever, or bird flu (!)

i guess no situation isn't so bad that somebody doesn't wish it was worse

[Desertrose]

71. I'm so sorry pitohui...fear spreads fastest I guess....

I'm so sorry about everything you've had to go through....

don't know really what to say....I am wishing the best for you and doing what little I can to help....