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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:49 AM
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Poll: Bush Not Taking Brunt of Katrina Criticism
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 10:35 AM by Sapphire Blue
:wtf: He cuts FEMA funding & they don't hold him personally accountable for the catastrophic aftermath of those cuts?!?!? :grr: :grr: :grr:

Hurricane Preparedness Is Faulted; Fewer Blame Bush for Problems
Analysis by GARY LANGER


Sept. 4, 2005 — Americans are broadly critical of government preparedness in the Hurricane Katrina disaster — but far fewer take George W. Bush personally to task for the problems, and public anger about the response is less widespread than some critics would suggest.

In an event that clearly has gripped the nation — 91 percent of Americans are paying close attention — hopefulness far outweighs discontent about the slow-starting rescue. And as in so many politically charged issues in this country, partisanship holds great sway in views of the president's performance.

The most critical views cross jurisdictions: Two-thirds in this ABC News/Washington Post poll say the federal government should have been better prepared to deal with a storm this size, and three-quarters say state and local governments in the affected areas likewise were insufficiently prepared.


Views of Hurricane Response
    Federal government adequately prepared? Yes: 31% No: 67%
    State/local government adequately prepared? Yes: 24 No: 75
    Blame Bush? Yes: 44 No: 55


Other evaluations are divided. Forty-six percent of Americans approve of Bush's handling of the crisis, while 47 percent disapprove. That compares poorly with Bush's 91 percent approval rating for his performance in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, but it's far from the broad discontent expressed by critics of the initial days of the hurricane response. (It also almost exactly matches Bush's overall job approval rating, 45 percent, in an ABC/Post poll a week ago.)

Edited to add:
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Race and Politics

Finally, this poll finds greater criticism of Bush and the federal effort among non-whites than among whites; non-whites, for example, are 23 points more likely to disapprove of Bush's performance, 21 points more apt to think the deployment of National Guard troops in Iraq hindered the hurricane response, and 13 points more likely to rate the federal response negatively. Much of this, however, looks to be associated with political affiliation; non-whites are 23 points more apt than whites to be Democrats.

Continued @ http://abcnews.go.com/US/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1094262&page=1


Sampling, data collection and tabulation for this poll were done by TNS. Who is TNS? This doesn't say much about who they are...


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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:51 AM
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1. TNS must be Jenna's new company
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:51 AM
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2. They hope.
Wankers.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:52 AM
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3. Sample size = 501 adults.
Hmm..
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:20 AM
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17. 501 adults = 500 persons, 1 Diebold machine
:eyes:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:31 AM
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19. And how do we know Diebold machines are adults?--
Because hey're old enough to vote.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:53 AM
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4. The Clever Plan of the Opposition Party to remain mum at all costs doesn't
seem to be working. Why the Opposition Party's leading lights are convinced leading by silence and complicity will benefit the Party in the long run completely baffles me.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:54 AM
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5. Why are you surprised? How many times have you heard Bush's
name mentioned this week? I've paid attention and he's only been mentioned in terms of his visit and that he's not pleased. :eyes:

All the talk of responsibility is being deflected back to the mayor, governor, fema, etc.

It's frustrating. Nobody will say the emperor has no clothes.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:05 AM
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24. And bush cut FEMA funding... this should be shouted from the rooftops!
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 11:14 AM by Sapphire Blue
Edited to add:

I'm not surprised... I'm pissed at this BS poll.
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:54 AM
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6. TNS is some political hack group....We need to fully deconstruct it...
Rip down these poll numbers, and crucify them. That's all that matters. His political image.
:wow:
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:58 AM
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9. Some text from the TNS home page:
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 09:59 AM by matt819
http://www.tns-global.com/

Welcome to TNS
On-line access panels in China and Asia Pacific

With over 100 million internet users, China has the 2nd largest internet population in the world!

TNS is launching it's China 6th dimension access panel in September.

We now offer fully managed on-line panels in Australia, China, Hong Kong, Korea, New Zealand, Singapore and Taiwan ...delivering world class solutions to our clients.


More homework needed, but the initial response? WTF? Huh?
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:03 AM
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10. China!????
:wtf: ??? They're polling people in China and other countries? This was staged.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:08 AM
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12. So is ABC.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:56 AM
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7. Friday's phony photo ops worked, incredible as it seems.
Americans are as stupid as ever.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:04 AM
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11. or as racist as ever? Would it be different if the majority of victims
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 10:06 AM by Bumblebee
were white? And was Karl Rove not too worried because he knew it? But let's wait for other polls before we make any far-reaching conclusions. ABC tends to be inflated. For them Bush at 45% is the "lowest ever." Even Gallup has already dipped to 40% at least once.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:57 AM
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8. It's 501 adults who happened to be at home
can anyone find the break-up for party affiliation?
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:12 AM
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13. I would bet that you never will. Does anyone even have a breakdown
of how this poll was conducted? I have never heard of this company.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:17 AM
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15. No apparent info on their website. I've never heard of them either.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:13 AM
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14. I'm sickened by those numbers
but not surprised.

Starting to wonder if this whole thing wasn't a planned genocide.
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:18 AM
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16. Sorry, but I agree with the poll....
Flame me if you want, I don't care.

The government new that this could happen, and the locals new this could happen as well.

True * diverted the NO flood wall $ for his war in Iraq, and if he hadn't the area still would have been toast, because the project would not have been completed in time for Katrina.

The government screwed up by not having a timely rescue plan. And in my opinion the local city government, state government and federal government are all to blame for not having an evacuation plan.

I don't think they could have evacuated everyone in NO before Katrina hit, but it seems to me that their plan was for everyone to simply drive north. What kind of plan is that?

What about the people with no cars? What about the people in nursing homes and hospitals?

Why did they close the airports on Sunday, when they could have used the planes to get people the hell out of Dodge?

Did the bus companies simply leave buses their to be destroyed by Katrina, or did they drive them out of their empty?

I feel that the local authorities could have been better prepared to get more people out of their before Katrina hit. I saw the tape of the mayor of NO. He simply urged everyone to evacuate. If they had a plan it would have been more like: "I have instituted the emergency evacuation plan to commence immediately." The plan would have been to large for he mayor to accomplish on his own, but he should have been the first to start such a plan. Then the state government and federal government should have stepped in to help.

Home land security should have evacuation plans set in place for every major US city in the United States. IF the Federal government did not have a plan for NO, then the mayor should have done what he could. To just say everyone evacuate, you are on your own is absurd.

In the months to come I'm sure a lot of the questions will be asked and answered.
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:28 AM
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18. Listen to the governor on TV and tell me he could have organized evac..
They didn't even have the manpower or the resources for the evacuation, NO resources at all!!!! They begged and begged because just telling everyone to leave was not enough! :mad: :mad:
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:40 AM
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22. If you read my post you would see that...
I mention that the task of an evacuation plan would be to large for the local authorities. But to do nothing is absurd.

I'm not saying that the local government is the only one to blame, but by God if I were mayor of that city or the governor of the state, I would have had some kind of plan, which would be far better then no plan.

You would think that airports, local transport authoraties and the like would want to save property. So why not load them full of people and get them out? (The cost would be the same leave with them empty or leave with them full.)

There are lots of things the local government could have done.

They are both to blame, and thats the only point I'm trying to make.

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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:35 AM
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20. Taylor Nelson Sofres-marketing polling group-SOMEONE
commissioned them to do the poll-who?
Amd then TNS made sure to get it to the news.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:59 AM
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23. ABC/WaPo?
Methodology

This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone Sept. 2, 2005, among a random national sample of 501 adults. The results have a four-point error margin. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1094262&page=4


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:38 AM
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21. This is a one time poll....leaves out those who were affected and comes
from ABC which turned to the dark side a long time ago.

I wouldn't waste time thinking about it. It's the later polls which will be important.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:06 AM
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25. Depends who's conducting the polls... and how they're conducted.
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