Are there impeachment grounds based on New Orleans fiasco?

[Liberty Belle]

Aside from all the other impeachable offenses before the hurricane, what specific causes for impeaching Bush and others in his administration could be argued based on his negligent and arguably criminal neglect of the people in New Orleans (and possibly other hurricane-ravaged areas)?

[bowens43]

1. There is nothing that bush could do

that would cause the current house to impeach him.

[kenny blankenship]

3. It's not what he does, it's what WE'll do.

[In Truth We Trust]

9. Exactly! Criminal negligence is a crime. He publically stated that no one

foresaw those levee's breaking. That is grounds in my book and any lawyer with his salt could prosecute that!!!

[pepperlove]

5. That is true.

He will be there another 3.5 years and there is not a single thing we can do but gripe... and we will... well, I will. Every single day.

[cascadiance]

7. This WILL be a big campaign issue in 06 if enough people are PO'd!

If the perception of people is that our congress is part of the problem that this administration presents in terms of their criminal neglect of things as well as criminal participation in other messes, you might find a number of Republicans receptive to doing impeachment proceedings, if they felt the alternative was for them to be voted out of office in 2006, and if enough of them get voted out, then they might be faced with Nancy Pelosi taking over in president instead.

Devil's scenario for them is that Democrats take over both sides of congress in 2006, impeach both Bush and Cheney (and perhaps others), and put in place Pelosi in president, along with the house-cleaning of the executive branch that would accompany that. That also might make many of them who are involved more subject to prosecution and less apt to get a pardon from a Republican in charge were that to happen.

If they see this writing on the wall, they might try to cut a deal with the Dems where Bush and Cheney resign, and a Gerald Ford-like interim president be appointed to replace them, that would still maintain Republican control over that position, but only by one that would receive the blessing of the Democratic Party. That way, much like Ford handed out pardons to keep people like Nixon from winding up in jail, such an appointment might also hand out pardons as part of that deal as well, but also allow the Dems to clean up and "fix" the government during that timeframe too. Perhaps Chuck Hagel is attempting to look like that person by taking his anti-war stance, etc. now, though I'd personally like someone with less ties to voting machine companies.

Remember, it was a lot of Republicans that also convinced Nixon to resign too when they saw the writing on the wall then.

I think it is up to us to make it clear that that "Devil's Scenario" is a very real possibility, so that we can at least attempt to push these Republicans into that corner of wanting to negotiate a way out, if not actually have that Devil's Scenario (I should actually say "Angel's Scenario" from the point of view of the Dems and most of us people out there) play out to our advantage.

[MadeinOhio]

10. I have more faith that the republicans will do the proceedings than

I do democrats now, I see absolutely no reason that the democratic leaders didn't just write up impeachment proceedings or introduce a resolution. It makes absolutely ZERO sense. I see more corruption on both sides, and in the democratic leadership than I ever thought possible.

[kenny blankenship]

2. Oh yeah.

President could be judged unfit for office by Congress. Basically it's up to Congress what's impeachable. Bush's fumbling guitar strummin' cake eatin' and fund raisin' while New Orleans paid the price for his administration's mismanagement of its OWN highest priority (Homeland Security) could easily be declared evidence of incompetence, mismanagement and/or callous indifference to A) human suffering and/or B) his responsibilities laid on him by his Oath of Office. Laws older than the Constitution are relevant here. IOW: if they decide the President is impeachable, he's impeachable. But it's up to US, the people, to tell them that impeachment and removal is what we demand. They're not going near that step unless they fear for their own necks. They're not going to fear for their necks until we're in their faces.

"... All I know is that first, you've got to get mad. You've gotta say, "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!"

[ThomWV]

4. Stupid and Lazy Is Not Illegal

And I believe the asshat has to break a law to be impeached .... High crimes, misdemeanors, or treason if I remember correctly.

[Walt Starr]

6. "Criminal Negligence"

Yes, stupid and lazy CAN be a crime.

If the rEpublican Paty wishes to survive, it will remove Michael Brown, Michael Chertoff, Dick Cheney, and George W. Bush from office ASAP.

IF they don't want to surive, they will try to protect the above criminally negligent officials.

[kestrel91316]

8. Gee, ya think??? But NOTHING will be done to him. Nothing.

[Had_enough_BS]

11. No Impeachment!!

Gw was not getting a blow job! or maybe he was after he had lunch in San Diego on Friday, while people were trying to claw through their roofs...

[MadeinOhio]

12. He was strumming his guitar.