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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:27 PM
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Video of Conditions inside NO Convention center so Shocking/Can't be Aired
Report on MSNBC Devastation,
chairs, corpses lined up against the walls...Babies dying, People dying of dehydration, no food...people told to come there...walked in water to shelter and there was nothing there...no one is in charge...Photographer said photographs so shocking he could barely take them... Anchor said the pictures are so shocking about the people and conditions MSNBC couldn't air them.

What he reported was so dreaful the tears were streaming down my face...and I don't understand why food and water are not being dropped out of helicopters to these people. If Harry Connick, Jr. could get in there to see these people and try to help then why can't food and water be gotten in.

None of this makes any sense....We live in a third world country with a dictator who refuses to help the starving, stranded people and our National Guard is not there, and NO ONE IS IN CHARGE.

WHY? WHY? I can't find any answer. :cry:
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:30 PM
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4. why does bush want them to die?
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:40 PM
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25. Bush is a psychopath
He uses dead suffering people as porn
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:30 PM
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60. ... and a sociopath n/t
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:14 PM
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43. My theory
His rich developer friends can come in & buy the land for pennies on the dollar & build new hotels & shopping malls that will net them billions. After they upgrade the levee, of course.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:15 PM
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57. He is a twisted, petty, vindictive little man. Has it occurred to
anyone that this is his way of putting the AA community in its place since many of them rejected him at the polls? Remember how he treated the NAACP and the Black Caucus? He's evil enough to behave this way.
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hertopos Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:35 PM
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17. exactly..
Ok, I don't know if it is him. However I do believe someone in the administration want them to die.

Hertopos
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:36 PM
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19. no, this is result of crony capitalism putting incompetents in charge and
covering their asses when levee breaks.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:55 PM
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51. ding ding, give this man/woman a prize
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muwriter Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:45 PM
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29. Bush doesn't seem to have any control here at all
I doubt he can decide who lives and dies.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:43 PM
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40. Yeah, LOL, hell he's got no power at all.
:sarcasm:

:eyes:

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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:29 PM
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2. 6 Days since they knew it was going to happen
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ecoflame Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:30 PM
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3. WTF - Harry Connick, Jr?
If Harry Connick, Jr. could get in there to see these people and try to help then why can't food and water be gotten in.

What does this mean?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:31 PM
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10. His father was DA of Orleans Parish for 29 years.
So he probably knows how things are done in New Orleans.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:31 PM
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5. Let's call this for what it is: GENOCIDE
That's all I have to say.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:32 PM
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12. Auschwitz on the Bayou.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:45 PM
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28. Yep.
It's a death camp.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:55 PM
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50. yes!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:33 PM
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15. You'd better believe it. They don't seem worried about a backlash, either.
Who would have EVER dreamed this could happen?



He's a uniter, not a divider.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:18 PM
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58. Please... "Genocide" is such an ugly word.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 04:18 PM by intheflow
Call it "Ethnic Cleansing." Better yet, call it "collateral damage."

:sarcasm: :cry:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:31 PM
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6. Bush is a War President
call him when war breaks out.Preferably in some other country. With oil.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:33 PM
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14. Your cynicism speaks to me
Sad that we are so cynical but it is the fcukin truth.

http://www.designforacause.com/ (Profits from this site go to the Red Cross)
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:52 PM
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30. I'm just quoting Bush. He's the cynical one.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:31 PM
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Now they have suspended all search and rescue operations
saying the people are getting violent when being rescued. I am sorry but I call bullshit on that one. I have heard 3 different reporters say they have not seen any of the violence being spoken of at all. So who is reporting it then if the reporters are not seeing it? good question?

they are going to let the rest of the people die on the rooftops and blame it on violence that is not even happening. All of these bastards can rot in hell and then some....
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:35 PM
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18. They're rescued and then violent?
wtf? That is just ridiculous!
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:31 PM
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7. they should air it.
it might just wake up our country and make the ShitHead do something.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:31 PM
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8. Now I understand why they moved them all to the Superdome
there are no windows.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:31 PM
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9. I'm coming to understand the sick truth about Bush
He enjoys seeing and hearing about suffering. Prolonging the devastation gives him pleasure.

He's a sick, evil, small man.

We have the most powerful military and richest country in the whole fucking work, and we can send an army of people to save the weakest among us who are staving to death and who are dieing from dehydration.

I hope he is forever haunted by the suffering our country is continuing to perpetuate. But I doubt he will. He has no soul. None. There is only a void where others have a heart.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:42 PM
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26. Remember that Prescott Bush was a BIG believer in eugenics. Poppy....
...is also a big believer in that pseudo-science.

So, is what we're seeing merely the practice of eugenics by Herr Busch on a very large scale? Is Herr Busch allowing these people to die because he believes that they are undesirables?

Think about it.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:31 PM
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11. If I had the money and a pilots license I'd just go do it. Screw the
feds. their too late now.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:33 PM
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13. On CNN they showed the crowds of people chanting "we want help"
They said the people are living off what they've managed to loot from nearby stores. There are no trained medical personnel on site and a man went into a seizure while they were there taping. They showed one person dead in a wheelchair and another by her feet wrapped in a sheet.

This is no way for citizens of this country to be treated.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:34 PM
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16. Because, eventually, lies catch up with you...
Remember Hurricane Charlie last year? Remember how they marched the same 10 troops 3 or 4 at a time for different photo-ops?

If the Archive search were functional, I'd love to post those threads. And, obviously, the media went along. Well, now 100,000 phantom troops won't cut it. We need real troops, but guess what? THEY'RE NOT HERE.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:36 PM
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20. And this "ONLY 40% of the NG are in Iraq" stuff...
Every military organization has a 90/10 ratio of "support personnel" versus "on the ground with weapons personnel".

I submit the 60% of the NG that is still here has a WAY larger ratio and finding anything like a sufficient number of TRAINED Guardsmen with weapons so that order can be restored may well be an impossible task.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:37 PM
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21. Where is the leadership?
Where are our leaders? People are dying! That must be what hell is like. :cry:
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:37 PM
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22. SHOW IT!!! The people of America need to know the truth--
I am sorry if this seems insensitive, but if I lost a loved one in there I would want the world to see. I know I can't imagine the pain.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:00 PM
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31. Me too. Wonder if these pictures will appear on foreign news sources? nt
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MidnightWind Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:38 PM
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23. We need to see it. American needs to see what this administration
has done to its own citizens.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:39 PM
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24. buSH'S nEW gAS cHAMBER
Come in for a Shower
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:44 PM
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27. Bingo. The Bush Family favorite science of Eugenics in all its glory.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:05 PM
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35. same reason they won't show Abugarib prison shots.... it's just evil
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:01 PM
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32. We NEED to make those pictures public...how can we get them?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:02 PM
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33. This is insane.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:05 PM
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34. Here's a HUGE FUCK YOU to the freepers and every person
who said it was wrong to compare Bush to hitler... HE IS HITLER... no those aren't ovens, but that convention center might as well be.. He's MURDERING our brothers and sisters!!!!!!!

I feel so angry and so helpless right now.

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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:08 PM
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55. The only difference between Hitler and Bush is the mustache.n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:09 PM
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36. They worried about 'riots' if they released the Abu Ghraib photos ...
.... you can bet your ass they are going to hold back as much of these photos as they can because they know exactly what they have not done since last Wed, and what they could have done, and what they are not doing, now.

And, they know We The People ... know the truth.

They cannot suppress us or oppress us, any longer.

They are going down.

We The People ... must lead America.



SCENE OF ANARCHY -- A man covers the body of a man who died at the convention center in New Orleans. -- CNN


Peace.
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:21 PM
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37. There is something I'm missing here...
I know it's been said before, but surely a helicopter can get in and drop water bottles to these people. Medical personnel can be airlifted. Food can be airlifted and dropped. This is just crazy - There IS a way to get help in there.

And I'm sorry folks, but I will never believe that the idiot child WANTS this to go on. I can't believe that he is that diabolical. I loathe him, but I can't believe that.

Where is the organization? I'm getting SO frustrated.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:32 PM
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38. you may not believe that he WANTS it but can you believe
the he just simply doesnt care one way or the other

he flew back to dc for some terri schiavo grandstanding but he could stay on vacation go to california for an elaborate fundraiser and have photo ops playing guitar while people were literally dying in droves

the city ordered evacuation on sunday
he was nowhere to be seen except for photo ops until yesterday at 5 pm

sickening
you can call it anything you want
categorize however you need it to be so that you dont have to face what evil resides in our midst
but just listen to his emotionless words
see his grinning face

and KNOW that many thousands of people have died because of complete inaction along with funding cuts to no disaster preparedness (identified by FEMA in early 2001 as one of the top 3 potential disasters that could hit this country - along with an attack on ny but thats another subject)
KNOW that he appointed large donors to key positions who have no business heading anything of consequence

we could go on and on and no one wants to believe it but the facts and the actions do not lie
he does not care

and we are truly truly sorry for that to be so

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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:45 PM
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70. Oh, yes...
I never thought he cared. He doesn't have it in him. I just can't see any human being standing aside and being cheerful at the death and destruction in New Orleans.

It probably is getting so bad by now that if anyone did go in with help, they would be stampeded.

I can't believe this is my country.

Abby
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:14 PM
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71. no one can believe its our country right now abby
i think not even many republicans can

were glad youre here
we have to fight this together
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:55 PM
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41. GW said that wasn't possible
when he was interviewed on that Good Morning America show on ABC this morning, if you find the transcript somewhere you can see his reply.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:55 PM
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52. You can't drop people
The choppers don't dare land or they'd be overwhelmed or taken over.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:47 PM
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63. The only reason * doesn't want this to continue
is because it's finally dawning on him what the political consequences of his inaction is becoming. When the corporate media starts turning on a president--and it appears that's what happening--that president is going down.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:41 PM
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39. video link here...this is unbelievable
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:09 PM
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42. thanks for link....but I don't know if some folks can handle listening to
it...Just a caution...
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:50 PM
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46. I freaked out ...
uncontrollable sobbing after verbal descriptions of the situation ... How can we (read government, cuz the people want to help them)allow this to happen?

I have been tormented by what we have done to others (Abu Ghraib) ... obviously we are willing to do this to our own citizens as well.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:46 PM
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45. OMG, thank you for posting that- I won't forget that for a long time. eom
PB
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:28 PM
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59. Those babies!!
One wasn't waking up. How many more people are going to die. Chimpy had his lunch today, probably napping by now 'cause he's got to get on with HIS LIFE.
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NiteOwll Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:49 PM
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64. I am 10 times more angry now
I wish I had the means to rent a truck and take food and water there myself. How can we ever forgive them for letting babies die of dehydration???

This was America.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:08 PM
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68. I am speechless, my heart break for thoes people and at the same time
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 05:22 PM by Rainscents
I am VERY angry at my government!!!!
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:39 PM
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44. It took five days to get help into
Miami after Hurricane Andrew. People had to riot and local leaders had to scream for help before they decided to send help. If I remember correctly, once it became obvious that local police couldn't control the situation and everything was breaking down, the NG and other military arrived pretty quickly. Initial response was slow, but once they decided to respond, they did it fairly quickly.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:52 PM
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47. Every time I tell my mother about some new Bushevik fiasco, she always
says, "THEY DON'T CARE. THEY JUST DON'T CARE."

You can say that about any situation that involves the Bushies and anyone who isn't rich.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:52 PM
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48. Sounds worse then the Abu Ghraib pictures
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 03:53 PM by DoYouEverWonder
that they refuse to release.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:54 PM
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49. I saw that this morning
and was screaming at the TV between my sobs. This is just so unforgivably horrible it's almost beyond comprehension. This goes way, way beyond negligence -- this administration is guilty of murder right here on our own soil, never mind Iraq. I am FURIOUS.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:58 PM
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53. Most Horrific Video I Have Seen! I Am In Tears!!!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:31 PM
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61. Me, too!
Shit!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:02 PM
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54. I dob't trust what they claim "cant be aired". Nor should any American.
Why can't they air it? Is it really happening?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:13 PM
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56. Just more tears from all of us. The callous destruction of our country
and its been going on so long, I had no idea I could cry for so many years now.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:43 PM
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62. I think the neocons are thinning out the herd
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:00 PM
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65. This is a preview of what it would be like for any city
hit hard by a terrorist attack. God help us. Now we see how much good "Homeland Security" is. Just another empty front for the syphoning off of tax money from the middle class and poor.
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:01 PM
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66. "couldn't air them," well why the hell not?
are they only concerned about ramifications for bush and powers that be? We need to know what's going on. They show concentration camp pics on pbs but I guess shocking is OK when its far away and long ago.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:04 PM
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67. The right wing fears that video footage. Remember the Rodney King beating?
You can bet that the White House is pushing their lapdog media to squelch all photos/footage of the unfathomable human suffering caused by this catasrophe.

Like the video footage of the Rodney King beating, these images will spark outrage and righteous anger in every inner city of America. Everything would boil over.

Well, it just may boil over anyway, if people have had enough. :grr:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:09 PM
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69. I wonder if it's like the move Escape from New York?
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 05:10 PM by Rex
I'm being serious!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:29 PM
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72. I can understand why they THINK the video can't be aired.
Privacy of the people involved, matters of taste, etc.

SHOW THE DAMNED VIDEO!!!

This country needs to get a Big Over-sized helping of the REALITY, Enormity, and utterly Horrific nature of what's happening to our fellow citizens, thanks to a total lack of leadership by *.
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73. FUCK YOU MSNBC FROM ALL OF US MACINTOSH USERS
who can't play the video because your goddammed video player won't let us see vital information in a time of crisis because you won't support anybody who isn't on WINDOWS!
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