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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:35 AM
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Great! The Navy Ships Will Arrive on Monday!!!
with supplies!

Don't you think they will all be dead by then?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:35 AM
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1. &*^#(!(&%$(%$(*!%*^@!%$!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:37 AM
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2. body bags and non-latex gloves?
I am sick.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:38 AM
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3. Monday? A week after the disaster!
I sure hope they get potable water in to the area well before that!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:39 AM
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5. What shocks me is the lack of Helicopters
There. Now. US Military Copters could be dropping food and water to these poor people.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:46 AM
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13. Just my thought.
It is insane they aren't dropping food and water. They could also be dropping information leaflets to tell people what to do. They haven't done a thing yet for most of those stranded people. I'm not including the coast guard rescuers - they are certainly doing their job.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:58 AM
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17. as far as I can tell it has only been the Coast Guard
where are the local and State police choppers? Where the fuck are the national guard. Think of all of the folks that survived the flooding dying on the asphalt.

:cry:
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:21 AM
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26. Do you know how diffiuclt it is to move helicopter fleets.
They need to be refueled if you are flying them in one by one., and they are slow moving to being with.

If you airlif them in on C-5s that is two at a time and it takes a day of maintenance work to get them ready to fly again

Not saying it is not a problem.... just think that we need a rality check.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:34 AM
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31. where are the State Police and City helicopters
I know where the NG copters are. It isn't just the military that has them.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:06 PM
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34. I think you will find that they are in service
But at apoint they will run low on petrol.

I suspect many of the Helipad fueling depots are under water.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:38 AM
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4. Reported by Pentagon reporter Jamie McIntyre on CNN
one ship the USS Truman is just leaving VA now.
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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:39 AM
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6. People with no water cannot wait until Monday next n/t
Bush is so going to Hell.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:23 AM
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28. No question about that.
And I don't even believe in Hell, well except for the one he has created in NO. Let's send him there, first stop the Superdome. Bet those people would love to ask him some questions up close and personal.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:39 AM
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7. Why are there no air drops of water & MREs?
Why?

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:44 AM
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12. that is what I want to know
The Governor should be on the Tv Screaming about this!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:40 AM
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8. Monday?
Jesus Christ!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:41 AM
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9. Or evacuated.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:43 AM
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11. the people in NO don't have food or water
why they have not air dropped it i don't know.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:14 AM
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22. If there are no food supplies, it would explain why there is violence.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:19 AM
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24. The Convention Center is hell on earth
with dead bodies. The Superdome is not much better. And they are not giving these people anything!
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:23 AM
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29. There is no reason
(except perhaps they are in Iraq) that blackhawks could not land with armed NG or Army to restore order and drop food at the same time. Where are all those riot control police with their batons like they put on the streets for protests. They COULD get this desparate situation under control. Thousands of people dying because of total incompetence. It's hard to believe this is taking place.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:43 AM
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10. they knew this was gonna happen....
why were they not there, closer, ready to jump as soon as possible?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:46 AM
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14. Everybody will be dead, they are a little late
bastards...........
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:48 AM
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15. My nephew is on the USS Bataan
They're off the coast and doing rescue missions already.
http://www.bataan.navy.mil/
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:59 AM
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19. That is good news
I knew the Bataan was much closer to help. The four additional ships are coming from the east coast.

:(
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:52 AM
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16. I am guessing that they are not air-lifting supplies in because
they are afraid to be shot. Many people judge the desperate people in NO as they try to survive. Naturally some have resorted to gang behavior - facilitated by access to all of those guns on the shelves at Walmart and K-Mart.

If this country did not have such an insane policy about guns the relief effort could be managed differently.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:59 AM
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18. Bullshit.
Someone would have to be a damn good shot to take down a military helicopter making a food or information drop.

Also, by your own logic, it is the survival instinct and desparation which has caused the situation. If that's the case then food, water and information drops would alleviate the problem.

I realize many on DU want to use what has happened here to force stronger gun laws. Frankly, I could care less, but I would like to see us putting LIFE before POLICY ISSUES. We cannot change the fact that big box stores had guns and ammo or that people took them. We can, however, work to change the current situation by offering alternatives to violence.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:20 AM
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25. BS
.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:02 AM
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20. I have a question for any sailors out there
Um... just how close to port can these vessels actually get right now? It was my understanding that the waterways to NOLA were clogged with debris. So is the idea to anchor these vessels out to sea and use the helos from the Iwo Jima to transport folks who need to be evacuated for medical reasons? And just where are these helos supposed to land?

I'm just trying to picture how the arrival of these ships will fit into the bigger picture here.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:16 AM
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23. Airboats - this is Louisiana - there are
thousands of airboats that could be used. Some of them are quite large and they can go over just about anything.
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Fatima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:27 AM
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30. Under good condiitons, an LPD or similar size ship could dock at
Riverwalk (right there in NO).

As things are right now, nothing doing. They will have to anchor somewhere within helo range and fly stuff in.

An aircraft carrier or helo carrier (LHA) would have to anchor out, period.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:09 AM
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21. Great, they can haul away the bodies
and serve food to the news people
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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:22 AM
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27. One ship hasn't even left yet
The badly needed hospital ship USNS Comfort is leaving from Baltimore tommorrow.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:41 AM
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32. The term "coffin ships" comes to mind. n/t
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Libby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:43 AM
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33. It will be too late
Too little too late, as usual.
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