JEB BUSH hands de facto endorsement to DEAN

[Gringo]

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/6909889.htm

If a POS like Jeb thinks Dean sucks, that's all the more reason to rally behind Dean. Thanks for the endorsement, POS!

Gov. Bush ridicules Dean
Florida's governor labels Vermont's ex-governor a presidential candidate for `hot, angry people that aren't rational.'
BY PETER WALLSTEN
[email protected]


TAMPA - Gov. Jeb Bush (R - Scumbag) unleashed a river of ridicule Wednesday at the expense of former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, the Democratic front-runner in the race to challenge Bush's presidential brother next year for the White House.

The Florida governor chided Dean for having led a tiny state ''half the size of Miami-Dade County,'' labeling him a candidate for ``hot, angry people that aren't rational.''

Dean, whose campaign has raised record millions of dollars due largely to his vocal opposition to President Bush's war in Iraq and other policies, has surged to a lead among Democratic voters in early primary states.

[Brucey]

1. Not rational?

Who the hell could be rational with chimpy running things? It is not normal to be rational when your government is looting the national treasury and bombing the shit out of brown people and the media and sheeple grin, nod, rationalize, and look the other way. Rational? We should throw the bastards in jail! Go Dean, or ABB!

[ixion]

3. this is Bushspeak

"hot, angry people who aren't rational" defines the GOP and they know it. This is one of their tricks, to project their characteristics on the 'enemy', as it were.

[StopTheMorans]

2. oh but this doesn't jive with the Dean haters

who say the GOP wants Dean to be the candidate, so I guess they'll just dismiss it :eyes: Any of the usual suspects care to show your heads and comment on this one?

[Upfront]

9. No Wait, Wait!

Maybe he wants us to think he wants Dean to win, so we would think he doesn't want Dean to win, so we would think we need Dean to win. Yet Rove says he wants Dean, so we think he doesn't want Dean. So we want Dean I guess. The more I understand the less I know. I give up, I think I will just vote for Dean, but wait, what if, ahhhhhhhhhh! :wtf:

[StopTheMorans]

10. have you noticed none of the usual

suspects i.e. "The Protectors of the Democratic Party" have showed up to spew their ridiculous tin-hat covered bile? Funny aint it:)?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

12. Yes it does. 'They' are aware this very discussion is being had

and with Clark now raining on Dean's parade they want to give Dean a little free air time. And they want all the angry people behind Dean. But the truth is, angry people do not win elections. There simply aren't enough of them.
Now, when they talk about John Kerry like this and attack HIM for standing in front of an ACC. You be sure to let us know. :hi:

[StopTheMorans]

13. I was waiting for my old tin-foil friends to show up

glad to see ya, I mean, the GOP supports Dean if they say that they want him as the nominee, and now they support him if they slam him:) :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

15. show me where a Bush has attacked John Kerry so publicly

I'll be waiting for an answer.

[StopTheMorans]

17. he's not worth wasting their time on yet (see, I'm not ruling him out:)

hence, they feel no need to prop him up or tear him down. If he were making waves and generating tremendous grassroots support or had recently announced that he was a democrat <as well as> annoucing his candidacy (instead of being a democrat and having been perceived as the front-runner for months until Dean took the torch), things would be different. I personally think that everyone reads too much into who the pukes are tearing into or praising at the moment. The pukes often misread things at their own peril; they have in the past, and they will again. I think that many here give WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much credit to statements like this, get out the tinfoil, and try to spin it to reflect on whichever candidate they like/dislike one way or another. Just my $.02

on edit: and remember when they were attacking Kerry when he was the front-runner (i.e. the "he looks french" comment among others?) how do you reconcile that with your theory now? They'll attack whoever is making waves at the moment, and at this particular meoment, it's Dean and Clark.

[Gringo]

19. Well, I don't go in much for conspiracies of this sort

"Rove says he wants Dean" - means that they're afraid of Dean and thus want to scare dem voters away from him, etc.

You could speculate about such things until the world looks level.

I posted the story simply because if Jeb attacks a thing, it must be good. Jeb is a bigger slimeball than his brother, and he has a brain. He's been involved in all kinds of nasty business down here in florida long before he had his hideous girlfriend rig the 2000 elections.

[TLM]

18. John Kerry? Is he still running?

Why would Bush attack Kerry... Kerry voted for half of Bush's agenda, supported his war, and wants to keep half his tax cut scam in place?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

22. Kerry wants to take away the Bush Pioneer half of the tax cut

So let's straighten out that part of your knock on John.
I have to admit the dynamic of the primary is mighty interesting. I'd also be curious to know, for the record, when a Democratic opponent was EVER attacked so early by the someone from the other side like this. The policy has ALWAYS been to avoid your opponents (ignore them) until the direct confrontation in the general. So excuse my 40+ y.o. brain if this smells a little strange.

[Nicholas_J]

24. Complete lie

But not unusual.

As supporters of candidates most ofrwn emulate their choice of candidate.

Howard Dean is the ONLY candidates who has directly lied to the public on national television. Not once, but twice at two debates adn then got caught in the lies.

[stickdog]

4. This must be because he wants Dean to win because then

his brother could crush Dean like a flea.

Right?

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[zeemike]

5. How long

Will it be before the media picks this up and runs with it?
I can see the lead in now; “Is Dean to angry to be president?” And the one that follows it “Is Bush afraid of Clark?”

[Gringo]

16. That spin's already been out there a bit.

And in the case of Kucinich, I think it's true. As much as I agree with everything he says, he comes of so strident and oblivious to the thought processes of the mainstream folks that, even if he were elected, he would get nothing done with a right-wing congress and his White House would probably implode (and of course, it would still be better than Bush's reign)

As for the "hotheaded Dean" thing, it seems to be blown waayyy out of proportion. Yes, he snaps back when asked insulting or stupid questions, but he doesn't really seem all that flustered. He's just stubborn and doesn't back down. I think that's one of the qualities we Deanies like best about him.

In a perfect world where he wouldn't be crucified by the media for doing so, I'f LOVE to see Dean debating Dumbya, and in response to some insulting RNC talking point lie parroted by a dazed Dumbya say: "You lying son of a bitch. You have trashed this government and our best citizens long enough. I'm sick and tired of it and the American people are sick and tired of it. Your handlers may keep you far from the American people, but I'm right here, and if you dishonestly impugn my record again, don't think I won't come over there and wring your smug little neck." The crowd erupts in massive applause.

It's just a fantasy, and I'm sure the media would turn it into "Dean a total psychopath" by the next day, but I would LOOOOVE to see that exchange.

[zeemike]

21. Me too

I would love to see that exchange. But we know it must never happen.
But people do want an assertive president and that is what Dean would be, and that scares the shit out of the neo-cons.

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[cprise]

7. The freeper-Prince talks about "angry people"!

Certainly he wouldn't have said something like this during the Florida recount.

Jeb is a liar of Stalinist proportions. I'm glad his family has learned they have something to fear from Howard Dean.

[Evil_Dewers]

8. Jeb's daughter Noelle was Rush's dealer...

...in Palm Beach.

[Gringo]

11. "Half the size of Miami-Dade County"

yeah, one of the WORST-governed municipalities in the US - way to remind people. I live here, I know.

Besides, isn't it a bit dangerous to start throwing stones when your brother, the dim-bulb of the family and repeat DUI offender, only had to work 90 days a year in Texas, where the weak governor has little responsibility? Or when that brother has a long history of business failures and repeatedly being saved by Saudi princes and the like?

The thing they don't get is that Deanies (and other angry democrats) are not "angry people" they are angry as hell, for good reason. The vast majority of us didn't give a fig about politics before, but were forced into activism by the WORST administration in US history. Deanies and other angry dems are NOT holdovers from the 60s - it's a whole new generation - pissed at being chiseled out of the American dream.

[Rose Siding]

20. Classsy response from O'Donnell

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Responded Dean campaign spokeswoman Courtney O'Donnell: ``It's unfortunate that Gov. Bush finds balanced budgets to be a laughing matter. It's understandable that he would, given that his brother's administration has run up record deficits while three million jobs have been lost. Those folks must be angry.''

[Cha]

23. "Classy" is right! the bushes rhetoric leave holes a mile wide

for the perfect response!

[RummyTheDummy]

25. Jeb better pipe down.....

Otherwise he's next, i.e. Limpballs. The revolution will be televised.