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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:03 PM
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I am sick about the animals trapped in the
flood waters and the debris, so I gave to the Humane Society's Disaster relief fund. For those of you who are interested, there is a link on their website and it also details their disaster preparations:

http://www.hsus.org
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:04 PM
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:05 PM
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3. how about you taking care of YOUR priorities
and other individuals taking care of theirs?
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:05 PM
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4. Of course MildyRules
I am concerned about people. I am also concerned about animals too. Often they are overlooked.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:05 PM
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5. You can do both
Have you done anything?
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:07 PM
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8. YEAH I have! Have you?
I have over 40 family members down there. They need help more than some animals. BTW, I have two cats who are like part of the family. AFTER ALL of the people are safe, THEN I'll worry about the freaking cats and dogs!
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:08 PM
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10. You seem to be pretty upset.
I am sorry to hear about your family members. I hope that they are safe.
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:09 PM
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13. Thanks...and I am upset
Rightfully so, I think. Sorry for snapping.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:09 PM
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12. If I had forty family members "down there" (not sure where that is)
I think I might be doing more than bitching about another poster worrying about the animals on an internet board.

But, then I am not you.

Perhaps you are relieving tension.

Stephanie
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:10 PM
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16. What the F do you want me to do Stephanie?
Levitate down there and beam them up to my house?
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:13 PM
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22. I'll tell you what I want you to do.....if you see a post where someone is
worried about the animals in New Orleans, or other areas hit, DON'T click on it. IF you can't stop yourself, then don't respond in an ugly manner to those of us who are thinking of them.

As far as your family members are concerned, I genuinely hope that they are doing as well as possible under these horrible circumstances.

Stephanie
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:14 PM
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25. I don't need you to tell me what to do.
If you think taking care of animals is more important than making sure all the people are taken care of FIRST, then we have nothing to discuss.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:15 PM
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27. Hey, you asked.
I was just trying to help.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:25 PM
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40. What do you suppose you're accomplishing with your criticism?
Many people --I'm one-- don't make a lot of distinction between humans and the species of non-humans who share our lives. If you do, then so much the worse for those cats who are 'like' part of the family. Think how frightened, desperate, and vulnerable they'd feel, if they knew that in your eyes they're not really part of your family, and that you'll sacrifice them if need be.
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:27 PM
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42. I wouldn't
sacrifice my wife, or my kids, or YOUR kids for them if that's what you mean. Sorry, as much as I love them, HUMAN life comes first.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:46 PM
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49. I didn't think you understood what we're saying, and every post you make
convinces me more completely of that.

None of us would sacrifice humans for the wellbeing of non-humans---but we wouldn't sacrifice the non-humans for the humans, either. That's the part you seem unable to grasp. To us, our non-human family members are real family, not 'like' family. They're not animated pieces of furniture, to be taken care of as long as convenient and sacrificed when they become a burden. They're real family members, and they're no less deserving of our care and protection than our kids are.

So don't criticise us for something you aren't able to understand, okay? It does you no credit.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:11 PM
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17. *snarf*
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:12 PM
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20. Yuck it up
That's real compassionate. I'm seeing what some DUers are really made of.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:13 PM
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23. I had to yuck it up
as you came into this thread with both barrells blazing, just because people are concerned about helping helpless animals.

See the irony in it all?

And what does that have to do with what "some" DUers are made of?

You sure are showing what "you" are made of.
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:15 PM
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30. Yeah, I believe
we should take care of people first. That's what I'm made of. Obviously you're not.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:20 PM
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38. you know, when I have bad days like you are having right now
I try my best not to post on DU.

Don't let friends post stupid is my motto.

Last month I lost one of my cats quite suddenly, and it took a lot for me to shake that chip off my shoulder.

I wound up apologizing to a lot of people in the process.

*hint, hint*

For me, all life is precious. We could not have know about your family members. But you didn't have to come into this thread pissing on everyone.

Not unless you're trying to imitate R. Kelly.
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:22 PM
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39. I understand.
I just think people take priority over pets and zoo animals.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:14 PM
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26. That DUer that you are bitching at has been here since almost day 1
I almost met her personally, and would very much like to.

Maybe you should stick around for a bit before you start bitching about compassion of the long term members
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:17 PM
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33. That's for sure. If you can't feel compassion for poor animals
-then there is little hope for you. We are responsible for those we tamed-so, get a clue.
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:19 PM
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36. I do feel compassion for them
and will gladly help, AFTER the people have had their needs met.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:26 PM
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41. By then, it will be too late.
You can't wait to help animals after you help all the people-the animals will be dead. Since we domesticated them, we are responsible for them and they are not able to help themselves when everything is flooded.
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Cattledog Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:29 PM
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45. You're a punk ass Mildyrules
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 03:30 PM by Cattledog
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:33 PM
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I love you too.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:09 PM
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14. I have
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:05 PM
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6. We can do both on DU
I have been worried about the animals too.

So was Gandhi if you remember correctly--

It is not innapropriate to consider the smallest of the victims.

Stephanie
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:14 PM
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24. Easy Cruella
It's possible to help both human AND animal victims of Katrina. And in any event, making sure that the animals are safe directly helps humans- wounded, hungry animals are a huge hazard, and dead, drowned animals even moreso.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:16 PM
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31. How about people are able to take care of themselves
better than domesticated animals will ever be able to.
:eyes:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:19 PM
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37. Mildyrules- I really hope your family is OK
I understand why you posted what you did when you are so worried about them. :hug:

You should know that there are many people here who are extreme animal lovers.

We care about all living beings.

We certainly care about people but we can care about other creatures as well.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:04 PM
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2. Also Noah's Wish
They go to disaster areas and help animals in need.

www.noahswish.org
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:07 PM
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9. Saw the head of that org on TV last night
she said some people so clueless they leave thier dogs chained up so they drown when the flood waters rise instead of letting them go free

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:06 PM
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7. Let people divert resources where they want to
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 03:21 PM by LisaM
if I had gone through this kind of hell, finding my dogs alive and well in a shelter might be enough to get me started back on my feet.

Thanks for the link. This is actually where I wanted to donate my money.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:11 PM
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18. Excellent point. Also the converse is true as well -
some people who need comfort after all this might adopt pets who've lost their masters.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:08 PM
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:10 PM
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15. Some people..
are just leaving their pets behind. How heartless. These animals can't vote or speak for themselves. And yet very few people are taking care of them.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:12 PM
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21. some had to leave them
as the shelters and/or hotels wouldn't allow the pets in.

If it were me, I'd just have to drive as hard and fast away from danger as possible.

WITH MY PETS!!!
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:15 PM
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28. AGREED!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:28 PM
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43. I don't get this about hotels. First, they should really allow
animals even in non-emergency situations. And second, at least they can allow animals in emergency situations. It doesn't even make sense to do this to people and their pets. Some people will rather drown than leave those poor pets alone to die.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 04:11 PM
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50. Agreed. I'm one of them. I only have one cat left, but if she can't
go somewhere, I won't go there either. We'll take our chances together.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:11 PM
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19. What about the N.O. Zoo animals? Any reports?
???
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:17 PM
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32. oh shit. that is a great zoo
I was in NO in 1984 (?) for the world's fair. That was one of the best zoos I have ever seen.

Hope the animals are OK.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:15 PM
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29. Animals Are Always Close To Mother Nature. That Is My Small Comfort
if some don't make it... and many won't.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:19 PM
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34. Some "homeless" NO animals are now in Houston
The New Orleans SPCA trucked about 260 to the Houston SPCA. They are now up for adoption to good Texas families. Donations of food & money are being expected for those who can't adopt.

http://www.spcahouston.org/spcahouston/Default.asp

Organizations helping humans are more important, but kicking a few bucks to the animals won't hurt.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 06:21 PM
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51. Are these animals JUST made homeless?
Aren't they even going to give their own families a chance to get them?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:19 PM
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35. Is the Humane Society bringing down boats and equipment
and whatnot to rescue animals?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:29 PM
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44. Damn. Just damn. I can't even imagine leaving without my pets
dog and cats...

But the worst is imagining them all alone during such a crisis...helpless... scared and lost :(

So sad...
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:30 PM
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46. Ive been thinking about the animals all day too
and it breaks my heart.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:33 PM
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47. Ellie, thank you so much for providing this link. The check is going
out tomorrow.

:hug:
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:44 PM
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48. I think we should cure cancer before we help ANY hurricane victims.
And before curing cancer, we should take on racism, but before that end hunger, and before that we should create world peace. One thing at a time, people, you can't have it all and if you care about any issue but world peace, you are a bad human being who thinks just plain WRONG.

Hopefully it's obvious I'm being sarcastic. It's wonderful that everyone has their own "pet" issues and is trying to make the world a little better. Instead of wasting energy attacking others who are trying to help, just help in your own way and be glad others are doing the same. Helping animals is equally as important as helping humans (who are animals, by the way) and sometimes more urgent, because they are forgotten and left for last.
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