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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:43 PM
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If there's a draft in America will the Gay population suddenly quadruple?
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 12:43 PM by Tom Yossarian Joad
With the repugs and those in power so sure that the military cannot have open homosexuality in the ranks, maybe it's a good thing?

I can just see the lines at the draft office arm in arm....

Seems like an obvious way to beat the draft.

All these pro-war young republicans coming out of the closet at once.

:evilgrin:

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:44 PM
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1. you think
I would bet higher 60% maybe :)
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:44 PM
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2. Maybe a few of us could stand nearby, ask the really cute ones to
prove that they really are. The look on some faces would be priceless!
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:45 PM
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3. Many republicans will be gay all of a sudden. n/t
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:45 PM
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4. It is all part of the "agenda"
Mwahhaahahhaaaaaaaaa!
:evilgrin:
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cloud_chaser1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:46 PM
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5. While it might seem l;ike a way to beat the draft
it's also a way to show the homophobes that a gay guy, who loves his country, is just as capable as any other guy in uniform. Or woman for that matter.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:46 PM
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6. It will be the fastest way to full acceptance of gays. :)
Besides, there will be far more worrisome issues for this country if the draft is reinstated.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:49 PM
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8. Yeah, just one of them being....
that draft-dodging this war will make Vietnam draft-dodging look like a day in the park!!!
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:19 PM
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14. I can imagine a lot of draft dodgers simply saying...
"Go ahead and send me to jail... better alive than dead from your criminal enterprise."
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Chocolatebison Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:47 PM
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7. I bet some Republicans
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 12:49 PM by Chocolatebison
accept the fact they get drafted and go fight.

But most will act like Ted Nugent.

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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:49 PM
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9. I bet if you have been found out to have lied about being gay
to evade the draft, they'll put your ass on the front lines in Fallujah as revenge--after you get out of jail after a long stretch.
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Chocolatebison Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:50 PM
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10. No
They will jail you and let you rot.

The last thing they want to do is give you an automatic rifle.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:53 PM
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11. no way, just tell em you had a christian conversion and are no longer gay
they cannot fault you for that hehe
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:56 PM
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12. I was under the impression that gays are now
allowed in the armed forces; maybe I missed something, but I thought everyone was now fair game because of their need for warm bodies.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:59 PM
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13. It was my assumption that the "don't ask, don't tell" rule was still in
place.

Just an assumption on my part as I'm not 100% on military law.

:toast:

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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:21 PM
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15. It's still in place, but I think there has been anecdotal evidence...
of a temporary non-enforcement of the policy.
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:33 PM
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16. My guess is the US Army will develop a serious hearing problem
The Army will develop a 'don't bother to tell, I'm not going to listen' policy. Randy Shultz' book 'Conduct Unbecoming' tells of GIs, that all knew were gay, serving as long as the Viet Nam War went on. When it was over, the Army suddenly discovered it didn't allow gays.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:19 PM
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17. I doubt it will help.
They'll just make little "Sacred Band of Thebes" units and use them as shock troops in the worst combat zones possible as punishment, i.e. effective death penalties for such.

I've heard there are plots afoot to draft women as well as men. I suspect this is in no small part due to the size of the armies they anticipate taking on (BRIC, SCO, and observers). A Hitler attacking Russia in winter -type affair is not something I'd put beyond them at all.

Iraq, as bad as it is, will be nothing compared to such a fiasco. Iraq is a shooting gallery with our troops as targets now. The upcoming fiascoes will be more like sending even more badly underequipped masses of Americans into a fully industrialized abattoir.

It is not inconceivable that hundreds of millions of Americans would choose to be brutalized in prison instead of slaughtered in such conditions. It is also rather likely that those who attempt to make such a choice will be forcibly compelled to go to the front lines instead of imprisoned as they would prefer.

The lack of choices leaves rather few methods of resisting. Clearly, cooperation is being coerced.
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