Ran into Israeli Art Student Today

[Magical]

Okay folks. Listen to this...I live in the Seattle area.

Son and I are coming back from rollerblading today and stop for gas.

I see this guy walking down the sidewalk carrying a large art portfolio and by his looks, my first thought was, 'Israeli Art Student'. (Read WhatReallyHappened.com if you're not familiar with the Israeli art student spy story, ie. Mossad cover).

So he comes up to me and asks if I would be interested in buying any original oil paintings.

I say, 'No, where you from?' He says, 'Israel.' Bingo!

I ask him how long he's been here, just hoping to engage him in a conversation long enough to pry. Well, he gives me this strange look that I read as, "I don't want to talk to you." Then turns and walks away.

I'd woulda LOVED to grill his ass about all the 'classified' Israeli involvement in 911.

Sooo, if anything happens in the Seattle area in the near future, remember this.

[jpgray]

1. Er?

Let's not go profiling Israeli art students now. If his work was terrible and incomprehensible, then we know he's a real art student. :)

[DemBones DemBones]

4. Why the slur on art students? Are you one of those people who

thinks their five year-old can paint better than Picasso?

[Poll_Blind]

5. Oh oh, are you sensitive to comments about art students?

I don't think he was trying to viciously slander all art school students. He was making a joke about how, uhm, you know, some of them are crappy artists. I know deep down he meant that this was only temporary, because all art school students will eventually blossom into not-crappy artists. :D

PB

[Poll_Blind]

2. Careful, blaming Israel for any of 9/11 may get your DU account shut off.

The administrator of this forum has clearly stated:

"Every time someone has blamed Israel or Jews for 9/11, I have deleted it, and I have shut off their accounts."

Just to make sure I'm not taking his words out of context, please visit the actual thread. I have no reason to believe this sentiment has changed which is why I post such an old message.

Just a friendly warning: DU is an excellent spot to discuss the Democratic party but it is likely that accusations of Israeli involvement in 9/11 are not tolerated. You are also not allowed to post anything from WRH in the Israeli/Palestinian forum. You can post other WRH articles in other forums, but all information from WRH is deemed unaccptable for the I/P forum. I'm not being critical of you, just informing of of some rules, stated and unstated, which will make your time at DU more enjoyable, once you know them! :D

As to this guy you talked to, I wonder if he's run across others who are inquisitive as to his intentions because of those other Israeli art students?

PB

[Magical]

10. Thanks...I was 'unawares'

I'm not the one who wrote the 4 part story about Israeli connections to 911.

Carl Cameron of Fox News did.

And it was an amazing coincidence to run into this...exactly as I had read months ago, selling 'original' oil paintings.

As * would say, "Case closed."

[sandnsea]

3. Hmmm

and I was all ready to read how this poor guy was probably terrified you were an FBI agent. We need to be on the lookout for Israeli art students, is that what you're saying? :eyes:

Or is your post sarcasm, I hope.

[foo_bar]

6. guide to spotting Mossad agents

1) Ask the spy where he's from.
2) If he says Israel... bingo!

Next week on WRH Theatre: how to spot witches.

[aquart]

18. Third nipple.

Oh. Did I give it away?

[Octafish]

8. It's no joke.

There was a major intel operation going on concerning "Middle Eastern men" at US flight schools, followed by a large contingent of Israeli "art students" around the country.


The Israeli 'Art Student' Mystery
By Christopher Ketcham
Salon.com
5-8-2

For almost two years, hundreds of young Israelis falsely claiming to be art students haunted federal offices -- in particular, the DEA.
 
No one knows why -- and no one seems to want to find out.
 
May 7, 2002 | In January 2001, the security branch of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency began to receive a number of peculiar reports from DEA field offices across the country. According to the reports, young Israelis claiming to be art students and offering artwork for sale had been attempting to penetrate DEA offices for over a year. The Israelis had also attempted to penetrate the offices of other law enforcement and Department of Defense agencies. Strangest of all, the "students" had visited the homes of numerous DEA officers and other senior federal officials.
 
As a pattern slowly emerged, the DEA appeared to have been targeted in what it called an "organized intelligence gathering activity." But to what end, and for whom, no one knew.
 
Reports of the mysterious Israelis with an inexplicable interest in peddling art to G-men came in from more than 40 U.S. cities and continued throughout the first six months of 2001. Agents of the DEA, ATF, Air Force, Secret Service, FBI, and U.S. Marshals Service documented some 130 separate incidents of "art student" encounters. Some of the Israelis were observed diagramming the inside of federal buildings. Some were found carrying photographs they had taken of federal agents. One was discovered with a computer printout in his luggage that referred to "DEA groups."

CONTINUED...

http://www.rense.com/general24/artd.htm

Good timeline and more documentation:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/AAisrael.html

[Poll_Blind]

13. That IS unusual activity. But they're Israeli so better drop it.

Hey, they're our allies, right? All I know is if a group of Americans were carrying out the same activity, they'd fall under the same scrutiny, at least. But still, Israel would never spy on our government... Just ask Jonathan Pollard!

PB

[foo_bar]

16. replace "Israeli" with "Muslim"

and you are here.

[Poll_Blind]

19. Frequent, Lucianne's site, do you?

By the way, did you know that Muslim was not a nationality, but a religion?

PB

[Poll_Blind]

20. Out of curiosity, why would he be terrified if he WAS an FBI agent?

???

PB

[elcondor]

7. Y'know, I'll let the mods take care of this . . .

because otherwise I might accidentally slip into a verbal personal attack. I will just leave it as: I feel sorry for the poor artist you tried to "interrogate".

[Poll_Blind]

11. Did you even read his message?

From his message:
I ask him how long he's been here, just hoping to engage him in a conversation long enough to pry.

Hideous! Hideous! Engaging in conversation "long enough to pry." Oh no, intent to pry! That's a misdemeanor, isn't it?

PB

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

12. what's with this censorship thing you guys keep brining up?

What? no one can say anything implying Israeli involvment in certain questionable activities?
Why?
I have noticed that if anyone mentions these certain things that flareguns start flaming....Why?

Is there some sort of pro Jewish thing with DU?

I'm not anti Israel nor am I pro Israel...I just want to know
why are people being censored and attacked for mentioning things (that I won't mention)?
This is unfair isn't it ?
any comments?
-how bout a mod speaking up and explaining.

[lucky777]

9. I ran into them in Spring 2001

I was a law professor in Jacksonville, Florida. They were at the school, coming into offices and showing poor oil paintings. Mostly young girls of Eastern European background. I almost bought something -- I am Jewish and support Israel to some degree (I'm against the occupation). I never thought anything about it, until 9/11 and the articles about Israeli art students. I still don't know if there is any proof linking one thing to another. All I know is that they were in my office in Spring 2001, in Jacksonville, Florida.

[Old and In the Way]

14. Did they know if there were any ME Cessna pilots training locally?

Wouldn't hurt to ask, I think.....

[JackSwift]

15. He got your license number and you're in the database now

I have a casual acquaintance with a male of the species who is a dual national. He confessed in an email to me the other day that he has in fact assassinated Palestinians in retaliation for their killings of dissenting Palestinians. He was kinda pissed at me because I am not completely on Israel's side. He more or less implied my emails are now in a Mossad database. I damn near snorted my Cherry Coke. (I've a couple of friends who were "spies" in Vietnam, neither of whom would ever admit to having fired a gun in anger, and claimed that all they did was debrief people.) Anyway, an "art student" spy in Seattle is spying on what? People with open minds? And to think we subsidize this foreign spying on us.

[aquart]

17. Young student ducks deranged stalker.

Happens all the time.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

21. Locking

The fundamental assumption of this thread relies on a website which, based on my recollection, has been deemed to be unreliable with respect to its accusations (which accusations are arguably anti-Semitic, based on their tone and presentation) of supposed Israeli involvement in 9/11.

DTH
DU Moderator