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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:37 PM
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Cindy's Victory
This thing, the wheels are coming off it.

- Gen. Barry McCaffrey, after returning from an inspection of Iraq, 08/12/2005


They are sunburned and storm-lashed. They sleep in tents that sit along the muddy earth of drainage ditches by the side of the road. They have been heckled by counter-demonstrators who chanted We dont care! during a rendition of God Bless America. They have been attacked by fire ants and hassled by local health inspectors. On Thursday morning, at about 5:30am, they were blasted awake by a fourteen-car convoy of Secret Service SUVs which roared through the camp at high speed while leaning on their horns the whole time.

They have been jolted with fear when a local resident fired his weapon into the air several times to make them go away. When the shooter, a Larry Mattlage, was asked why he was firing his gun, he said, We're going to start doing our war and it's going to be underneath the law. Whatever it takes. It is safe to say, therefore, that their lives have been threatened.

The thing is, theyve already won.

Cindy Sheehan and her ever-growing band of supporters intend to stay in those ditches outside Bushs Crawford ranch until he comes out to talk or until August 31st, whichever comes first. They have been there for more than a week now, garnering more and more attention from the national and international press. Yes, they are tired. Yes, they are uncomfortable. Yes, they have already won.

The nearly 2,000 crosses, crescents and Stars of David that make up the Arlington West cemetery, erected by the demonstrators a few days ago to represent all the fallen American soldiers in Iraq, stretch almost a mile down the country road. Bush had to drive past that on Friday when he went to his fundraising shindig at the Broken Spoke Ranch. It takes a while to drive past them all. This man, who cannot abide hearing or seeing anything in the way of dissent or disagreement, saw those crosses whistle past his window. That is a victory.

On Friday, as the camp prepared for the arrival of the counter-demonstrators, a huge diesel pickup truck rumbled into camp with its nose menacingly pointed towards the tents. It sat for a while, and everyone waited to see what would happen. Ann Wright, the main organizer of camp activities, finally approached the truck and met the driver. He was a father, Wright discovered, and his son had been killed in Iraq.

He did not agree with this protest, he said, but wanted to know if his sons name was on one of the crosses in the Arlington West cemetery. Ann Wright invited the man to walk the rows of crosses and find his sons name. They found it. Ann and the man in the truck sat down in front of the cross, wrapped their arms around each other, and wept. Later, the man shared a beer with Cindy Sheehan and told her he loved her. That is a victory, one that surpasses any sort of mean politics.

For three years now, both before the invasion of Iraq began and then after it was unleashed, millions of people have marched and screamed and stomped in order to try to put a stop to this disaster. The Bush administration was not pushed off its tracks even an inch in all this time. Discussions and debates on why we are there and whether or not we should leave have been bunted aside.

Half a dozen reasons for the invasion and occupation have been put forth weapons of mass destruction, ties to al Qaeda terrorism, the building of a democracy, Hussein was a bad man but in the end, the debate is halted by the kind of brainless thinking that left us in Vietnam for far too long: We are there, so we have to stay. This was the accepted wisdom.

Not anymore.

All the protests, all the articles, all the books, all the whistleblowers, all the criticism combined has not packed the kind of punch that one mother in a ditch has delivered to this administrations carefully crafted fantasy vision of what is happening in Iraq. Suddenly, Bush has been forced to go before cameras and try to explain why staying in Iraq is the only option available. Suddenly, the accepted wisdom isnt so accepted anymore. A majority of Americans, according to every available poll, agree with the lady in the ditch and not with the president.

Bush isnt doing a very good job of explaining his side of things, and his people seem unable to keep their stories straight. After the fourteen Marines from Ohio were killed in Iraq, Bush got up and stated that it would be unreasonable for him to lay down a timetable for withdrawal. Yet at the same time, his generals were bent over maps and logistics notebooks, trying to do exactly that.

The Los Angeles Times on Saturday took a look at the mixed messages coming from the war party. Are the president and the Pentagon on the same page over the war in Iraq? asked the Times. That question is percolating in Washington after President Bush twice in the last 10 days tried to clarify a message sent by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and military leaders. After Rumsfeld and other Pentagon officials indicated their desire to shift away from discussing the struggle against terrorism as a war - saying it placed too much emphasis on military solutions to terrorism - Bush repeatedly used the word war in an Aug. 3 speech to conservative state legislators.

Then, continued the Times article, on Thursday, Bush dismissed as rumors and speculation reports that U.S. commanders were contemplating significant withdrawals of American troops from Iraq next year. His comments came after Army Gen. George W. Casey, the top U.S. military official in Iraq, and Army Lt. Gen. John R. Vines, the top ground commander, had publicly raised exactly that possibility.

Hm.

On Sunday, out of nowhere, the Washington Post published a page-one story titled US Lowers Sights on What Can Be Achieved in Iraq. The story stated, The Bush administration is significantly lowering expectations of what can be achieved in Iraq, recognizing that the United States will have to settle for far less progress than originally envisioned during the transition due to end in four months. The United States no longer expects to see a model new democracy, a self-supporting oil industry or a society in which the majority of people are free from serious security or economic challenges.

The article goes on to describe how any democracy will have to bend itself around the laws of Islam, a fact that chucks the secular-government talking points into the round file. Iraqi women, according to the story, should not get their hopes up about being granted significant rights of any kind. The kicker came in the third paragraph, which quotes an unnamed US official saying, What we expected to achieve was never realistic given the timetable or what unfolded on the ground. We are in a process of absorbing the factors of the situation we're in and shedding the unreality that dominated at the beginning.

In other words, the whole thing was a Charlie Foxtrot from soup to nuts. There are no weapons of mass destruction, the terrorists connected to 9/11 were not there (though there are plenty there now learning how best to kill Americans with bombs), and democracy is not to be found anywhere on the menu. The hearts and flowers we were promised have not come, and are not coming. Sure, Hussein is still a bad man, but that rationale for this war is an outright laugher when compared to the cost of getting rid of him. Though Bush clings desperately to his canned lines to defend his actions, the facts speak for themselves. This whole bloody enterprise has been a colossal, expensive, murderous failure.

The funny part is that Bush could probably have kept the public fantasy intact with one simple act. He could have jumped into his pickup truck last Saturday, when Cindy Sheehan was alone except for her sister in that ditch, and driven down to see her. He could have invited her into the shotgun seat and driven her around the neighborhood for a few minutes. He could have then gone back up to the ranch and told the press corps that he met with her, and that they had looked into each others hearts. That would have been the end of it.

He did not do that. Now, his generals are at loggerheads with the public line coming from the White House about getting out of Iraq. Unnamed officials are going on the record to state that the whole plan was hare-brained from the word go, and that the entire deal sits now in the ashes of its own utterly ruined failure. Bush has to keep explaining why we have to stay, why rearranging the deck chairs on this Titanic is a noble and worthwhile process. Meanwhile, the whole world mocks him for hiding from one woman and her broken heart.

Cindy Sheehan has done this with one act of conscience. She has managed to do what no other protest or action or statement has been able to do. She has knocked the wheels right off this absurd applecart. She has already won.

Her son would be very, very proud.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:38 PM
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1. Thanks for your great work Pitt, you're a true patriot nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:43 PM
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4. Bush and Co. are starting to realize this (I think)--not that they would
admit it.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:15 AM
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119. Doesn't matter now, whether they admit it or not
I feel we're really at the end of this...
Not that the next part is going to be easy.

But looks to me like the media blackout has been pummelled enough, this is the perfect time and the perfect last straw.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:42 PM
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2. Call me crazy, but this morning I asked my husband if he knew
how people get nominated for Nobel peace prizes. Thoughts? She's doing more for the cause of peace than anyone else I can think of.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:11 PM
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28. That's not crazy at all
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 01:11 PM by proud2Blib
I think it's an absolutely marvelous idea.

I would be willing to bet there's info on nominations on the Nobel website.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:05 PM
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45. We aim to please...
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 02:06 PM by rateyes
The Nominators Peace
Right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize, based on the principle of competence and universality, shall by statute be enjoyed by:


1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.

The Nobel Peace Prize may also be awarded to institutions and associations.

Prize-Awarder: The Norwegian Nobel Committee, Oslo

http://nobelprize.org/peace/nomination/nominators.html

I'm sure there are several members of DU who qualify...let's do it!

In fact, I think Vinca (since it was Vinca's idea) ought to start a separate thread with the idea. Find someone qualified, as outlined, and get them to make the nomination---Nominations are made between September and February--the award is given to recipients after about a year's time.

http://nobelprize.org/peace/nomination/
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:29 PM
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47. I would, but I am only a lowly professor of science
and so according to the guidelines, not eligible to nominate. :-(
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:58 PM
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55. Thanks, and I started a new thread about it,
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 02:59 PM by rateyes
maybe you know someone where you teach who can do it?

Thanks, as well, Vinca.

Edit for link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


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ArchTeryx Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:50 PM
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81. Just as a random comment...
You may be only a 'lowly professor of science' but you're still one of my favorite DUers. You're the only other scientist I know here by name!
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:08 PM
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89. Thanks AT
:blush:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:52 PM
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145. When Cindy arrives in Washington Bush have her arested for stalking
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:20 PM
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58. awesome idea
she could win it along with her group - the gold Star moms. and it would mean a lot for US and all who want peace. It might be a good way to demonstate to the world we are NOT all neocons too.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:24 PM
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59. Yeah, whole groups are eligible!
Good idea.
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #45
74. Does anyone
know Jimmy Carter well enoough to suggest it to him?
:patriot:
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:34 PM
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78. Ask Jimmy Carter
He won the Nobel Prize for Peace, didn't he? I bet he would.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:10 PM
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56. Nominating Cindy for Nobel Peace Prize
What a fabulous idea! Since former winners are also eligible
to make nominations, why don't we start a letter writing campaign to former President Jimmy Carter who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002?
He has recently been in the news for his criticisms of the Iraq War, from the beginning.

Contact him: The Carter Center
One Copenhill
453 Freedom Parkway
Atlanta, Ga. 30307
Phone: 404-420-5100
E-mail address: carterweb@emory.edu
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FreedomSpirit Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:14 PM
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73. BRILLIANT!!!!!
I'm working on a snail mail letter to him now to urge him to nominate Cindy and the Gold Star Families.

Thank you so much for the idea and for the address.

:bounce:

:applause:

:patriot:
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freedomfries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:02 PM
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97. KICK
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #2
60. you started something
and Will Pitt you are incredible!
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:07 AM
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128. I was thinking the same thing
I would love to see her nominated and what a wonderful kick in the ass to our very own Little Boots to see Cindy lauded as the ordinary citizen who stood up to the evil warmonger--sort of like the Aung San Suu Kyi or Rigoberta Menchu of Crawford.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:43 PM
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3. I assume that Charlie Foxtrot = Cluster Fuck
If so, I agree completely.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:44 PM
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6. You assume correctly
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 04:00 PM
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62. My personal term for it is, "Mongolian clusterfuck."
I picked it up from a former boss of mine. It's either a mixed drink or . . . well, just what it sounds like.
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:21 PM
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75. The printable version...
...ia "Mongolian Cluster Event", often used on Radio to describe Charleston Traffic. :P
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tigersumtin Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:02 AM
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136. Due these
Mongolian Cluster events have a pivot point, if so I know who it would be
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tigersumtin Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 11:06 AM
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137. Beautiful
Very well done. Thanks Will, U said it Beautiful
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:44 PM
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5. You're right!
Cindy has won because she has given the public a human face on which to focus. She is a universal symbol of the folly of this "war". God Bless Cindy. She is truly a heroine.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:45 PM
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7. Great writing Mr. Bungfeeb.
I wouldn't have expected less. :thumbsup:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:45 PM
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8. Very well said.
As usual. Thanks, Will.

:patriot:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:47 PM
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9. Wow!
Should those of us stuck at home do a phone in campaign to the White House to express our support of Cindy? Considering how rudely they have been treated by the President, who incidentally is supposed to be everyone's President, not just Chevron's and Unocal's, it would seem proper to express our disapproval.

Does anyone have the number of the Crawford Ranch? Maybe we should have a phone in between five and six in the morning.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:47 PM
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10. Camp Casey is the 1st Dept. of PEACE


Blessed are the Peacemakers! :kick:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:50 PM
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12. "He did not do that." opportunity was there--right in front of him.




This thing, the wheels are coming off it.

- Gen. Barry McCaffrey, after returning from an inspection of Iraq, 08/12/2005

.......The funny part is that Bush could probably have kept the public fantasy intact with one simple act. He could have jumped into his pickup truck last Saturday, when Cindy Sheehan was alone except for her sister in that ditch, and driven down to see her. He could have invited her into the shotgun seat and driven her around the neighborhood for a few minutes. He could have then gone back up to the ranch and told the press corps that he met with her, and that they had looked into each others hearts. That would have been the end of it.

He did not do that......
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:52 PM
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53. And now Camp Caseys are popping up all over the place!
Cindy's Peace Seeds, are a BLOWING IN THE WIND~


Bob Dylan - Blowing In The Wind Lyrics

How many roads must a man walk down,
before you call him a man?
How many seas must a white dove fly,
before she sleeps in the sand?
And how many times must a cannon ball fly,
before they're forever banned?

The answer my friend is blowing in the wind,
the answer is blowing in the wind.

How many years can a mountain exist,
before it is washed to the sea?
How many years can some people exist,
before they're allowed to be free?
And how many times can a man turn his head,
and pretend that he just doesn't see?

The answer my friend is blowing in the wind,
the answer is blowing in the wind.

How many times must a man look up,
before he sees the sky?
And how many ears must one man have,
before he can hear people cry ?
And how many deaths will it take till we know,
that too many people have died?

The answer my friend is blowing in the wind,
the answer is blowing in the wind.

The answer my friend is blowing in the wind,
the answer is blowing in the wind.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:49 PM
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11. took me a few minutes to recover from the story of the man...
...in the pickup truck, and I'm still crying now. Kicked and recommended. Thank you, Will.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:25 AM
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121. I haven't been able to cry yet---
I think I must be very numb and out of the loop a little---I've been in "hide from current events" mode for a little while here, even DU.

this is awesome (not a word I use frequently!!)

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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:50 PM
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13. She's a mom and a lioness who has seen her cub killed
by these packs of lies. She's suffered the ultimate loss and wants restitution the only way she can get it.

AND she's right and as most can see, she's trying to save lives, not blindly lash out at innocent Iraqis.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:51 PM
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14. Great work Mr. Bungfeeb.
Again...you amaze me.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:51 PM
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15. Chuck: You did well by Casey and his Mom.
That ditch juxtaposed against Bush's high-flown rhetoric is just plain poetic.
:toast:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:51 PM
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16. recommended.
Thanks, Will.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:52 PM
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17. Mike Malloy said this was like the Gandhi salt march he's right
The momentum is with her the eyes of the world are on her. Bush is looking and sounding more cracked than ever.

She is dominating the agenda.

and bush is cowering in the corner babbling.

Bush:
:hide:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:06 PM
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Casey's mother has held up a magnifying glass to this coward & liar.
I hadn't heard about the guy who shot a firearm into the sky & declared that "they would start a war" that would be "underneath the law", "whatever it takes". The magnifying glass is on the "We don't care" crowd as well.

This war began with less than four wheels. But not on the vehicle - in the chickenhawk-in-chief's unsound mind.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:15 PM
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31. "the lady in the ditch"
What a great way to talk about Cindy, as opposed to the Crawford Coward.

This is the part that brought tears to my eyes. It may also describe the most powerful thing that Cindy has done, in reaching out to all those who have lost loved oned because of this illegitimate war:

"On Friday, as the camp prepared for the arrival of the counter-demonstrators, a huge diesel pickup truck rumbled into camp with its nose menacingly pointed towards the tents. It sat for a while, and everyone waited to see what would happen. Ann Wright, the main organizer of camp activities, finally approached the truck and met the driver. He was a father, Wright discovered, and his son had been killed in Iraq.

He did not agree with this protest, he said, but wanted to know if his sons name was on one of the crosses in the Arlington West cemetery. Ann Wright invited the man to walk the rows of crosses and find his sons name. They found it. Ann and the man in the truck sat down in front of the cross, wrapped their arms around each other, and wept. Later, the man shared a beer with Cindy Sheehan and told her he loved her. That is a victory, one that surpasses any sort of mean politics."
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:17 PM
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33. Whoa, hadn't heard that story fully, now I have tears. (n/t)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:54 PM
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83. A gentleman would meet with a lady.
George is no gentleman. Cindy is definitely a lady.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:35 AM
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123. Who do freepers want to have a beer with now???? n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:01 PM
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146. "the lady in the ditch' excellant post thanx
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 12:58 PM
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18. Excellent piece.
I hope it will appear in other places, as well.

Yes, she has won, and it is the fierce, uncompromising love of a mother that breaks open the cracks in the empty shell of his poisonous bully pedagogy.

Love vs fear: love wins every time.

Being the mother of sons myself, I know that mothers everywhere understand and support this woman's stand. Even the fully indoctrinated and cowed on the religious right secretly understand, if they cannot openly support.

I'm a peace-loving pacifist. I'm also a mother, and I would face down an entire world of hate and greed to protect or support my sons. I am many, many miles from Texas, but each one of those crosses has been blessed with my tears, and has strengthened my resolve to stand side by side with all who will against the onslaught of destruction the Bush regime has brought us.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:48 PM
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79. P. Yogananda said,
"Even if the whole world is against you, you must stand up for what you believe is right. And you will win".
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:39 AM
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124. I want to send around WillPitt's article along with this post

sounds like a new banner for us:

"Love vs. Fear: Love Wins Every Time"
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:52 AM
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133. It is a good banner.
Our job is to remember to separate ourselves from the fear; to not participate in it. Cindy Sheehan helps us remember that we can.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:01 PM
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19. Cindy is the miracle we've all been waiting for!
And you're doing a fine job as well, Mr. Pitt...
But it's not enough. It's not over til' it's over. The papers and pundits regularly refer to this extraordinary event as a circus. We need MORE people out there; we need to show the world that this is NOT some little dust-devil she's started out there, but a full-blown PERFECT STORM of fed-up fury on the part of the American people!


(Wont You Please Come Out To) Crawford
(to the tune of Chicago by Graham Nash - Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young)

Now our mother's bound and gagged
And they've left her in a ditch
Won't you please come out to Crawford, come and shout
In a land that's known as Freedom
How can life be such a bitch?
Won't you please come out to Crawford--thats what freedom is about!
We can change the world...

read the rest at
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:02 PM
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20. good balance of heart and facts...Camp Casey is the place to be
you can feel the attraction and focus
on that area right now of people's minds
and hearts.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:03 PM
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21. .
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 01:05 PM by stellanoir
wonderful as always.

I love that this is happening.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:07 PM
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23. No, that's intentional
Read the word in contect with the sentence:

"Sure, Hussein is still a bad man, but that rationale for this war is an outright laugher when compared to the cost of getting rid of him."

A 'Laugher' is something absurd and amusing on its face. "Did you see George trying to defend himself? Boy, that was a laugher."

Thanks for the eyes, tho. :)
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:21 PM
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35. damn it you caught it
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 01:22 PM by stellanoir
Hoped you wouldn't.

I corrected shortly thereafter.

Whooops.

Can I blame it on Mercury retro or somethin' . . .?

kidding.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:46 PM
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95. Will, in case this old gal in Oregon has never told you before:
You're the best! Keep hanging in there and tell Cindy we're all with her in spirit if not in fact. Love the new word you just taught me--Bush is indeed a "laugher". I'll add that to idiot and all the other bad words that are never bad enough I ascribe to him.

Blessings! And as we used to say in the 60s--We Shall Overcome!

Tired Old Cynic
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:06 PM
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22. Outstanding as usual Mr. Pitt.
I'm emailing to friends and family before I head out the door.

Have a lovely Sunday.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:08 PM
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24. Outstanding, Will..
You take the various pieces of this story, and you weave them into a coherent and intelligent whole...

I am proud to know you...and lucky as well....

Thank you...

:patriot:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:09 PM
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25. Will you are my favorite journalist
This is one of the most awesome pieces I have ever read.

If it is okay with you, I have a few RW 'friends' (all becoming doubters these days) I would like to send this to. It may just bring them over that fence.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:11 PM
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27. Wait a bit
I am going to add some pics, do some edits (the original is already a little diferent from this) and it will be turned into a truthout link by tomorow. I will post it when it is final.

Thanks.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:12 PM
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29. Will do
Thanks! :)
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:11 PM
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26. "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"...........
someone needs to get Cindy a banner as well.

Well put, as usual, Mr Pitt.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:12 PM
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30. Cindy may we affectionately call you the Wench with a Wrench?
She's done more to twist the nuts on the war machine than anyone I have ever seen.
All the letters from high level people, all the demonstrations, all the Generals speaking out ... nothing comes close to the impact she is having. The media tries to warp and spin the story a bit but you can tell they know it's a story that Murkans can understand.

This War is Kaput. Quacked right open. Laid bare for the fraud it is.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:15 PM
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32. "the whole thing was a Charlie Foxtrot .."
Yep...
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:20 PM
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34. The more things change . . .
"'The war is wrong. But we are in it.'

"Well now, not even a burglar could have said that better."

Mark Twain
(with regard to the Spanish American War)
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:28 PM
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36. "We Don't Care!?!" During the singing of "God Bless America!?!"
Leaves one shocked, speechless. And there you go. Actions speak so much louder, don't they. The truth is being seen by all. It's on CNN and MSNCB quite regularly now.

Things are picking-up fast.

Good work Will. Wish to God I could be there right now.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:30 PM
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37. Brutal truth laid out with unrelenting rapid fire accuracy!
Thank you Will Pitt.

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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:32 PM
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38. Local Can Shoot A Gun & Declare Publicly He Can Do so
Underneath the law!?! Right up the road from our Prez and Sheriffs. Why isn't the SS on this sicko? Oh, that's right. The SS are terrorizing the peaceful protesters, many whom have lost sons and daughters in Iraq.

Oh. Ok. I don't get it. And you know what. I'm glad I don't get those type of mindsets. Good for Camp Casey! What courage! True Americans. Jefferson would be so proud as he rolls in his grave daily under Neo-Cons and hate-filled mongrels set loose under these times.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 06:27 PM
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71. Isn't this the same guy...
that eariler said he respected her right to protest?
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peace4all Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:34 PM
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39. great writing!
and passing this on
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:35 PM
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40. Question - What Happens Next?
Assuming DimSon doesn't meet with Mrs. Sheehan during the rest of his stay, then what? I thought I read someplace that she plans on going to Washington to continue her vigil.

What happens then? Will even more people join her? Will our sycophant media actually start asking questions?

I'd really like some opinions...
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:54 PM
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44. That's what she says.
And then it is time for our brothers and sisters in that area to take their places by her side. That's what happens next. :)
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vard28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:32 PM
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102. She'll be in MY neck of the woods...
if it comes to that, and I can't WAIT to stand beside her! :bounce:

Will, not sure how you will tweak your words to make them any better, but I can't wait to read it and see the pictures that will go with them. The people here continue to amaze me. I think we should have a DU election and let everyone see how our country really should function.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:40 PM
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41. Beautifully expressed, Will
Thank you!
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:40 PM
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42. fantastic writing, Will... as usual
You always do outstanding work - your writing brings tears to my eyes.
Thank you for being such an exemplary citizen.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 01:44 PM
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43. Bravo Zulu, Mr. Pitt!
Unlike some, I will link the definition of BZ for the phonetically challenged.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:07 PM
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46. "A majority of Americans, according to every available poll, agree with..
...the lady in the ditch and not with the president." --Will

And they always have. 58% of the American people opposed the Iraq BEFORE the invasion. I'll never forget that stat. Feb. '03. Across the board in all polls. Before all the lies were exposed; before the full horror and costs of it were known. 58%!

The American people didn't trust Bush then. THEN.

63% of the American people oppose torture UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. May '04.

Name the issue. The Iraq war. Torture. Social Security. The deficit. Women's rights. A great majority of Americans oppose every major Bush policy, foreign and domestic, way up in the 60% to 70% range.

And that's not even to mention Bush's dismal approval ratings over the last year (so low Zogby said he couldn't win). 40% today and falling.

Then, when you look at a few facts about the 2004 election-- that the Dems blew the Repubs away in new voter registration in 2004, nearly 60/40 (!), that Kerry won the exit polls--the only independent gage of what really happened--and that 80% of the vote was tabulated by major Bush donors and supporters at two electronic voting machine companies, Diebold and ES&S, using SECRET, PROPRIETARY PROGRAMMNG CODE--code so secret that not even elected Secretaries of State have the right to review it--you begin to realize that the American people are not stupid, are not lazy, are not yahoos, are not turning into fascists, and in fact are overwhelmingly progressive in their views, but have been DISEMPOWERED and DISENFRANCHISED.

One person who maybe stands to benefit from all this will be the war Democrat that our Corporate Rulers choose for us, with their secret, proprietary programming code, who will promise to do a better war in the Middle East: more troops, more money, continued good times for war profiteers--and maybe with a promise NOT to loot Social Security.

Unless we restore our right to vote--and remove these election theft machines from our midst (into Boston Harbor, I say!)--that's the BEST outcome we can hope for. And that the Bush Cartel doesn't nuke Iran in the meantime. According to Carl Sagan in his book "The Cold and the Dark," even a limited nuclear exchange will destroy our planet's atmosphere, and that will be that.

For those who can't go to Crawford, there is much that you can do to restore our right to vote. Join your local election reform group--or form your own. Start yelling at your local/state election officials. (They have much to answer for. Many have become very corrupt within the billion dollar industry that our election systems have become.)

Go to the "2004 Election Results and Discussion Forum" for information and action ideas:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Cindy Sheehan has won! I agree! Now we have to take back our country!



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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 05:45 PM
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66. Excellent Post, Peace Patriot!
This is a print-out for a resounding kick in the butt reminder. DISEMPOWERED and DISENFRANCHISED you bettcha! But we're not a majority of stupidity, rather robbed.

If we want our country back and away from corporate-America, it's time we start yelling on local levels. What I've learned from Cindy is not to be afraid. How did we ever become so afraid of our leaders whom we place there?

I think it was from becoming the "couch-potato" generation.
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:35 PM
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48. Best Piece of Writing on Cindy Sheehan
that I've seen. But, what else do we expect from our wonderful Mr. Pitt :loveya: :loveya: (no not that Pitt ;-)) Will this masterpiece be published anywhere? And can we use it in our blogs?? Pretty please?!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:36 PM
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49. It'll be up on truthout tomorrow
withj changes and pictures. I will post the link when it is ready.
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:46 PM
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51. Terrific!
Love ya Will, Muah! You Rock!
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:11 PM
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90. A superb job as usual, Will.
The people are finally paying attention thanks to Cindy and people like you.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:40 PM
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50. So good to get the news from Camp Casey
Cindy is definitely having an effect. The neocons will be spinning so hard that they could be rated as an alternative energy source. - I stole that from on tv this morning, a democrat said that Adam Smith would be turning in his grave so fast that he could be called an alternative source of enery.
How is Cindy keeping so much energy? She must feed off of those around her. I sure hopes she stays healthy and leads us all out of the wilderness.

:applause:
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:50 PM
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52. As usual WilliamPitt, you are spot on...
Beautiful, succinct, and powerful.

Thanks for the wonderful article! :)
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:54 PM
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54. Wow
Excellent work, Will.



That's ginbarn and I standing with Cindy yesterday. And we'll be there to stand with her yet again, don't you worry.

Sorry we missed you, Will - you left Texas before we had a chance to head down to Waco. One of these days we need to sit down for a beer.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:20 PM
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57. The truth has no expiration date.
My everlasting gratitude to two great American patriots, Cindy Sheehan and William Pitt, for helping me understand this.

There have been times over the past three years when I've been in depair because I came so close to believing that evil is stronger than good. Especially after the last stolen election, I thought "they" would always have the advantage because they have no morality. They are willing to do whatever it takes to win, unhampered by any quaint considerations of ethics or decency.

But because of what's been happening in a ditch outside of Crawford this past week, I now understand that it isn't true--and I think I finally understand WHY it isn't true.

A lie has power only as long as it is believed. If enough people believe it, and believe it for long enough, it may have tremendous power. It may retain that power for centuries, even millennia, but sooner or later it MUST die when the truth is revealed. OTOH the truth has no expiration date.

Don't get me wrong: I'm very grateful that the truth about the Iraq war DIDN'T have to wait for centuries or millennia to become apparent to the nation. But it's precisely the eternal quality of Truth shining through the events of the past week that are the source of their energy and power.

I look at the engraving of Lady Wisdom I keep on the shelf above my monitor and I can only say, "Thank you!" And my undying gratitude also to Cindy Sheehan and William Pitt, and everyone else who faithfully serves the Truth.





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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 03:57 PM
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61. Peace wins out. Beautifully written, Will.
This is just so amazingly simple, in't it?? Truth wins...

Bless you, Cindy and everyone...and thank you.

This is what coming from your heart and being in truth and love can do. I am just blown away.

"My heart is full" as my Apache elder friend would say.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 05:02 PM
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63. Nicely Written
Kudos to you, Mr. Pitt.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 05:45 PM
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67. Oh yeah, I kicked and nominated. n\t
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 05:14 PM
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64. "The lady in the ditch"
To think that the "bullet proof" Bushit administration will finally be brought down by "the lady in the ditch" is truly poetic.
And your description of it is just as poetic.
Thanks, Will! I'll be forwarding the Truthout version to a lot of people tomorrow.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 05:35 PM
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65. Casey is smilling down at his mom from heaven am sure of it
Her son would be very, very proud. Indeed. Nominated.


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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 06:09 PM
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68. Kick
Great piece, Will. Bravo.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 06:22 PM
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69. Charlie Foxtrot. We never called it that when I was in the Army.
We just said cluster fuck.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 06:26 PM
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70. Very Good Will!....n/t
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adnelson60087 Donating Member (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:01 PM
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72. Kick!
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:26 PM
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76. A big lump in my throat
As I was out and about today, my thoughts turned to Cindy Sheehan. I kept on thinking about how because of this one brave woman, I now have more hope than I've had in years. This ongoing roller coaster ride of scandal to scandal to scandal that we've endured, hoping each one would take root and then being disappointed as each one seemed to fade away, now doesn't seem so hopeless. This one woman has focused the attention on Bush's crime of war like no other scandal has. All because she has this incredible courage to speak from her heart, and ask a tough question with more courage than all the so-called journalists.

Hats off to you, Cindy. Thank you for giving us hope.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:32 PM
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77. Beautiful, beautiful truth
Moms everywhere are very, very proud of you.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:49 PM
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80. If anyone deserves the Nobel Peace Prize
It is Cindy Sheehan. She may very well have started the movement that will stop the occupation in Iraq. Hopefully, after time, others will see this, too. Wonderfully written article. Thank You.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:52 PM
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82. Thanks Will. See article below from Kentucky .
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 08:00 PM by KC21304
Will look for final version.

Don't know if this has been on DU yet, but here is a wonderful article from a Kentucky paper.

By Missy Comley Beattie


He is number 1,828, 1,829 or 1,830. We don't know for sure, because so many died last week.

Marine Lance Cpl. Chase Johnson Comley died when his vehicle was hit head on by a suicide bomber. His death admits his family to a club no one wants to join: the grieving, questioning families who have heard the dreaded ring of the doorbell followed by a messenger's words, "We regretfully inform you that your son ..."

You realize that nothing you've thought, done or felt has prepared you for this reality. The feeling is so much worse than a broken heart. It is an evisceration.

As I write, Chase is being flown to Dover Air Force Base. His 6-foot-4 body is in a coffin draped with the American flag. He loved his family, his country, his Sayre classmates and his life, but we don't think he loved his mission in Iraq

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/12364399.htm
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:29 PM
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93. Another heartbreaking story.
Dear God, look at what this administration has wrought.
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sunnystarr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:59 AM
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134. Thank you for the link KC
It also was beautifully written and incredibly sad and real.

And, finally, think about flowers: The flowers for Chase Comley will be presented not by grateful Iraqis but by loved ones honoring him as he's lowered to his grave and buried in our hearts.


Will, your words are so awesome... I just want to plaster the streets and buildings all over the country with them to wake the rest of sleeping out of their stupor. When you wrote about the truck driver, my steely resolve to control my emotions melted and I just broke down.


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judgegina Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 07:56 PM
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84. Nicely done.
n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:02 PM
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85. Huzzah!!! ... BRING IT ON!!!
:yourock:

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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:03 PM
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86. Wow, Will.....
Your writing is always so good, but this was over-the-top great. (Of course, the subject matter warms my heart like nothing has since November of 2000....) I'm crying tears of joy at our victory and bitter sorrow for Cindy's loss of her dear son, Casey, who, as you say, would be so very proud of his mom. I'm profoundly grateful to her for what she's doing for MY little sons, one of them not even in kindergarten yet. God bless her and keep her. She is one AMAZING soul. :cry:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:05 PM
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87. Excellent Will!
Let's knock some more wheels off.

Sonia
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LVdem Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:07 PM
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88. It's obvious why * won't speak to Cindy...
If he speaks with her, the terrorists win.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:29 AM
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122. yes you're right
Bushco, Bill O'LimpFox and the Church of Fallwell have been conflating Liberals with terrorism for years now.
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jurassicpork Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:15 PM
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91. WP
I've written some of my best blog posts since Cindy Sheehan began her protest/standoff but I have to admit this post is at least as good as anything that I've written about Cindy. From one Bay Stater to another, I salute you. But I'm not done writing about Cindy. Not by a long fucking shot.

You make me want to be a better blogger.

JP
http://jurassicpork.blogspot.com
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:12 AM
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118. Keep writing
No breath. No sleep. It puts the fucking lotion in the basket. Right?

Right..

No brakes. And best of luck.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:27 PM
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92. Lovely. Crawford has a psycho named Mattlage.
I hope people are taking good care of Ms. Sheehan.
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Spryboy Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:31 PM
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94. How to help?
I'm thinking of driving up to Crawford... are there any things I can or should bring to help them out? A cooler full of ice-code water? Gatorade? Are there any supplies they want or need?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:07 PM
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99. They need wipes. You know, the wet wipes. Same thing our troops
in the pit of hell ask for.

God bless,
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:01 PM
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96. kick n/t
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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:04 PM
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98. Can someone explain this?
We're going to start doing our war and it's going to be underneath the law. Whatever it takes.

What the f*** does this mean? Do you mean to tell me that there's a guy living next door to the "Western White House" who's trying to instigate a civil war, and the Secret Service are more concerned about an unarmed grieving mother than this guy?

OMG, it makes me want to hurt myself. :banghead:

Thanks for the story, Will--you guys did a great job!!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:14 PM
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100. That trucker! That cross for his son! THAT's what A.W. achieves!
And Cindy is there, Cindy is there, Cindy is there.

That quiet voiced lady Is Being Heard.

Oh God, I can't tell you how great this article makes me feel, Will Pitt. Thanks a million for being there and writing it.

Hekate
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emr Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:30 PM
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101. stop them!
we must stop the imperialists at all costs. this administration is evil, and they have ruined america. i believe that bush should be tried for war crimes for this debacle, as well as the fiasco in afghanistan.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:19 AM
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126. You don't get it yet, emr. Keep reading about Cindy & VFP
She, individually, is about peace and is a peaceful person.

The VFP as an organization is about peace and peaceful means. Many in the Vets for Peace have seen the worst, have put their lives on the line for this country, and only a fool would question their patriotism. But their work is about noviolence and peaceful means. (You can google for info about them, and about Arlington West.)

As for Arlington West, I personally have witnessed the impact that it has on the families and friends of the fallen. They come to those crosses on the beach in Santa Barbara, and whether or not they agree with this war they are just overcome. This president, this administration, have tried their utmost to keep a lid on any public acknowledgement of the depth of sacrifice that is being made by our service-members and their families. AW is a very public memorial, and every cross has a name. The crosses go up once a week -- they are only up for one day at a time -- but people actually bring flowers, actually kneel in the sand, actually cry. Young marines in full dress uniform walk the rows and search for the names of their comrades. They kneel in the sand...

This trucker who lost his son in Iraq -- do you think he went away unchanged by this enounter at Camp Casey? This peaceful, healing encounter?

Btw -- welcome to DU.

Hekate
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 09:32 PM
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103. This should be on the op-ed pages of every newspaper in the country (nt)
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:18 PM
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104. You, William Pitt, are a true force for good in this crazy world.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:43 PM
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105. Damn Will... I'm Sobbing Over Here !!!
:yourock:

Hope Cindy gets to read this soon.


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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:43 PM
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106. Will, that was awesome!
Great story, sorry I can't be there physically but there in spirit, as like many other DU'ers!

Thanks for this story.
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:50 PM
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107. Cindy Sheehan will go down in history.
The most telling part of her story is the way she embraced the pro-Bush father of a dead soldier. No matter how much these disgusting people try to smear her, she has not only stood up to it, she has risen above it, and proved that she is a bigger person than all of them. Not the least of whom is hiding from her in his phony ranch.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:01 PM
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108. Thank you. Brilliant piece. nt
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:04 PM
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109. Will your right...beautiful article.
Edited on Sun Aug-14-05 11:05 PM by Historic NY
* could have fended off this initative by Cindy just by driving his truck up there. A bigger man and a true Texan would have stopped even if he disagreed to see if the lady needed anything. He has had the opportunity twice coming & going from his ranch but did not. Is this any way to treat a lady, a mother, one whose grief is unending. A gentleman would stop and offer to help or try to console. Barbara your son doesn't care about you if he treats a woman this way.
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bluestateboomer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:05 PM
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110. Hooray Will! Hooray Cindy!
Whenever I go online I always look for the latest from Will Pitt. This time his incisive commentary has highlighted the courage and determination of a woman whose actions have made us all proud. Thanks Cindy and thanks Will. :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :yourock:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:08 PM
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111. Chuck Bungfeed is now my favorite journalist
Someone who can make you feel emotions like that is damn good, although I admit, you have some excellent subject matter to write about. It should be on the front page of every newspaper, but then again, I don't want Mr. Bungfeed to ever become part of the corporate media.

Cindy Sheehan is a hero, and a true patriot. Because of her I will never again think one person can't make a difference. And Will, you nailed it in that beautiful piece of writing.

I wish someone would have handed the old gun shooter an enlistment form. If he wants a war, he's badly needed somewhere else.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:16 AM
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120. The name is Bungfeeb
'feeb'

;)
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:53 PM
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141. Oops!
BungFEEB...Mr. BungFEEB indeed! That's the guy I meant!

I want to join your fan club, and fix you up with my lovely, almost 25 year old daughter who lives in the Boston area, but she's not much into politics at this stage of her life. Nor is my 22 year old son, but at least I've raised their awareness by sending articles and boring them to death when talking to them...

Having been awakened from my own stupor of ignorant bliss by the bastard in the WH...or, I should say "at the ranch", I am so impressed by young people who saw what was going on way before I did. Your article just plain nailed it, and I think Cindy has started something that's just going to keep on growing, and possibly, finally, turn the tide. Keep up the good work, Mr. BungFEEB!

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:21 PM
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112. Bush and his advisors have lost! Cindy is the american way!
Bush crew are nothing but shysters and crooks!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:27 PM
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113. ah, the wonderful ditch
What power they (Texas law enforcement) handed Cindy when they confined her to a ditch. This thing is taking on "born in a manger" proportions.

The contrast between a ditch and a big black SUV or a Western White House "ranch" or Air Force One is just too powerful. What a metaphor this ditch is.

She is physically in the ditch but she's really in the catbird seat. He physically cavorts with the most splendiferous symbols of power but he's really in the ditch.

And don't you just love the irony of bush heading to The Broken Spoke Ranch for his fundraiser? If there was ever a "slogan" for bush's presidency, it's "the broken spoke."

Loved your piece, Will. It is so good to have you to put the pieces together for us and help us make sense of it all.


Cher
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virgdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:43 PM
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114. Will, as always, an excellent piece of journalism...
my hat is off to you for your articulate and graphic pieces on the war, Cindy and everything else in between. Keep up the good work. We all enjoy your writing about anything under the sun.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 11:44 PM
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115. Cindy won... unless Bush allows a nuclear 9-11?
With Rove and the war and a ton of other shit making this prez look like a traitor, it's his only out!

We have a nut in the WH.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:21 AM
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116. "The lady in the ditch" William, what a beautiful tribute to Cindy!
Would you mind if I copied it and forwarded it to the editorial section of my paper?

Absolutely nominated!

Thank you for writing this :loveya:
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:52 AM
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117. V V = Visualize Victory
Edited on Mon Aug-15-05 02:07 AM by FizzFuzz
Thanks for visualizing this whole recent history so well, WillPitt.


I think all the efforts by millions of groups and individuals is finally turning back the darkness.

Keep Going!

:toast: :bounce: :think: :grouphug: :headbang: :applause:

add edit: :woohoo:

more editing: Just reread it and its a superb account of a mindblowing period in history---
----and it does sound like we're getting ready to see the NEXT chapter.
Only three years, feels like ten. Been alot of emotional rollercoasters, but looks like this could be the lst straw, finally.

Wow!!!
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:01 AM
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125. It's beautiful - as I was ranting a couple of ...
mornings ago, I couldn't fathom the leader of our country leaving the mother of a dead son - in a ditch? That painted a lousy picture, belongs in his presidential profile. His portrait needs Cindy in the background, sitting in a muddy ditch. Just think, the whole world could remember him just this way. But, I'm sure we will, always.

Good work, Will. :patriot:
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 05:55 AM
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127. Once again,
my unlimited respect for everybody at Camp Casey. We've tried and tried, but it's taken an angry mom to show this scum administration for what they are -- murdering, lying thugs and religious hypocrites of the highest order.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:46 AM
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129. Pure and utter excellence.
The elegance and courage of Cindy Sheehan is nearly matched with this account, and that is saying something!

Thanks for this, Will.

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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:20 AM
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130. Thank you Will Pitt and DU
Without DU, I would not be have gotten the story as it has unfolded. And to Cindy Sheehan.........all repect and love coming your way.
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:30 AM
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131. You know one of the best things about Cindy's mission?
We no longer have to count on the Democratic leaders (except for Conyers and a few others) to present a strong antiwar voice towards the government. In a sense, "we the people" are doing so!
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 07:48 AM
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132. The coup disgrace has earned their coup de grace.
Thanks Cindy and Will and everyone else who is helping to deliver it.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 10:29 AM
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135. nice piece Will... read on TO
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:39 PM
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138. That last line brought a tear to my eye unexpected. Thank you nm
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:43 PM
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139. Thank you.
:kick:
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 12:58 PM
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140. Holy...
Wow. You're great.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 02:01 PM
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142. Amazing job all around, Will
This article shows how Cindy's efforts honor the fallen of this war better than any military funeral ever could, better than Ted Koppel reading lists of names ever could, and especially better than Bush doing drive-by visits with the grieving families ever could. She has touched not only those of us who are against the war, but also those who have supported it and paid the price of losing a loved one.

Cindy Sheehan is doing the only thing more important than ending this war; she is ending it with unity, comfort, and hope to the families of those who have lost their lives.

She is one of them, after all.
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Boris Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:24 PM
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143. Brilliant!
Great writing, as always, Will. What happens to all those crosses? I've kicked this around in my head for almost 2 years. I have a high profile lot, and room for 2000 crosses. Unless someone has a plan for the crosses, I know where they'll get a ton of pub over Labor Day weekend. We put em up in my yard(just outside Chicago) we'll have 5 local channels broadcasting from my driveway within hours. Just offerring. I can't get to Crawford, but trust me, put those crosses in my yard, and it will go national. Good luck, God bless.
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gridbug Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:49 PM
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144. Is this for real???
Found this whilst looking around online:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8941525/site/newsweek /

It's bascially a very surreal article about The Smirk being super emotional while visiting with other families who've lost loved ones in the Iraq war. For example:

"President Bush was wearing "a huge smile," but his eyes were red and he looked drained by the time he got to the last widow, Crystal Owen, a third-grade schoolteacher who had lost her husband in Iraq. "Tell me about Mike," he said immediately. "I don't want my husband's death to be in vain," she told him. The president apologized repeatedly for her husband's death. When Owen began to cry, Bush grabbed her hands. "Don't worry, don't worry," he said, though his choking voice suggested that he had worries of his own. The president and the widow hugged. "It felt like he could have been my dad," Owen recalled to NEWSWEEK. "It was like we were old friends. It almost makes me sad. In a way, I wish he weren't the president, just so I could talk to him all the time.""

Not to mention:

"Before Bush left the meeting, he paused in the middle of the room and said to the families, "I will never feel the same level of pain and loss you do. I didn't lose anyone close to me, a member of my family or someone that I love. But I want you to know that I didn't go into this lightly. This was a decision that I struggle with every day."

As he spoke, Ascione could see the grief rising through the president's body. His shoulder slumped and his face turned ashen. He began to cry and his voice choked. He paused, tried to regain his composure and looked around the room. "I am sorry, I'm so sorry," he said."

Anyone have any idea how accurate (or not) this is? Apparently the issue of Newsweek that contains the article hits the stands on August 22nd.

Wondering how Cindy Sheehan will weigh in on it?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:27 AM
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147. Oh Will, this is such a wonderful tribute.
Love will concur all. :loveya: Peace to you Ms. Sheehan.
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