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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:25 AM
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Do you think anyone 'invading' us in our country could beat us?
NO! And we can't beat them by 'invading' their country. WWII was not an 'invasion' so don't get it twisted. We are now engaged in two unwinnable wars, one in Afghanistan and one in Iraq.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:26 AM
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1. China could roll right over us. However we can't roll over the Iraqis
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:29 AM
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2. uhhhh, how would they get here? how would they stage their Normandy?
not ever going to happpen....not when we spent about $500 BILLION a year on "defense"

they're going to roll over us in a different way, though
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:31 AM
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3. True enough. Why stage a military war when you can just buy someone out?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:32 AM
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4. zackly, and they're well on their way. might already be too late,
especially since corpwhorate America is only TOO happy to get the lowest possible wages to produce products that were once made here
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:48 AM
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9. They'll bankrupt us,
like they are doing now.
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ObaMania Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:15 AM
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20. So what "military " here would protect us?
The old dudes watching the borders? Some militia in the Midwest? Look, we've got miles of unprotected borders, there are plenty of ways they could blitz us. Especially if they were in cahoots with S. 'murica, Mexico, or basically blast through Canada to get here.

JMO ;)
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:07 AM
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15. No They Couldn't
The Chineese could nuke us, or maybe they are not able, but nukes are the only way China could ever think of defeating us. The problem they would have lies in geography and ethos. We are too large to effectively occupy and there would be great resistance. Although I know this will reveive no rave reviews here, it would be the 2nd amendment people who would be providing the reisistance. Think what you will about them but the gun nuts are indeed lovers of the USA and they are the ones who would provide an effective means of resisting an invading army (in the absense of our own armed forces).
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:09 AM
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17. China does not even have enough nukes
They could kill tens of millions but only by going after population centers.

China keeps enough nukes for MAD purposes but they never fooled themselves to think they could win a nuclear war. This keeps the costs down.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:42 AM
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27. You mean gun nuts like Tim McVeigh ?
Yeah. He really loved America.

I think you've seen Red Dawn a few too many times.

Guns do not equal courage. Just because someone owns ten guns and is a "2nd Amendment person" doesn't mean he would have the courage to fight. Most of the "2nd Amendment people" I know are lardasses who buy guns to make up for their cowardice.

In such a scenario it would be a broad group of Americans who would fight an invader, not just the "2nd Amendment people."
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:26 AM
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21. China can't get to Taiwan
How is it going to get its amry to California?

New rule: no one is allowed to talk about the military unless they know something.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:31 AM
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24. How? There are thousands of miles of ocean between
us and them. I'm sure we'd see them coming.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:37 AM
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5. With our entire National Guard pinned down in Iraq
getting their legs blown off by IEDs, Costa Rica could invade us.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:43 AM
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8. I wouldn't ever wish the dumbest half of the U.S. on Mexico
"Poor Mexico, so far from God, and so close to the United States."

-- Diaz
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:42 AM
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7. I can tell you one thing: The FReepers wouldn't defend our country
if we were invaded.

I know this because they won't stand up and defend America in this war either.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:11 AM
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18. Shit, they would just assimilate under the first person
who said "Bring in On" or "It's hard work". Come up with a good slogan and you have to beat them off with sticks.
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:32 AM
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25. They'd roll right over. And all their propagandists would
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:33 AM by Stirk
just start taking their checks from a new boss. I have no doubt that a guy like Hannity would create some reason why supporting the invasion was "patriotic".

It's a funny thing to think about, because you just know all these personality types would assume the same roles with different bullshit.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:52 AM
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10. Invade? why would anyone invade, when they already own us
economically? Maybe a better question would be, what will it look like when the Chinese cash in their chips, and we don't have money for the energy imports etc. that we need to keep this bubble floating?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 08:58 AM
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11. You are so right. China, S Korea, Israel, SA...all laughing all the way
to the bank. It's really quite fitting that we are done in economically...we died of greed.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:00 AM
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13. Welll, the US elites are laughing at the bank while the elites from
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:01 AM by K-W
around the world all take thier cut.

The people of the US along with the rest of the people in the world are the losers. Rest assured that the US billionaires are taking care of themselves just fine.
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Old Vet Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:09 AM
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16. Presently China has 70/1 advantage of combat ready troops........
Not to mention how many BILLIONS of dollars, Of US debt we owe them. Chinas like a big pit bull, And we better hope the chain don't break. I'm not stroking the chinese, But from what I read they are ultra dedicated soldiers.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:00 AM
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12. Are we about to be "liberated'? By the French I suppose?
God, what a horrible thought. Forced to take longer vacations. Eat gourmet food. Wear elegant clothes. Have mistresses or lovers and consider "sex scandals" part of life.

However, I do draw the line, and will man the barricades, if I'm forced to say that Jerry Lewis was a great actor.
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kahleefornia Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:04 AM
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14. the only ones able to defend
assuming there was some kind of invasion like we've done in Iraq, would be the crazy militia people. If they were successful, then we'd have pretty much the same right wing extremist, anti black, anti gay, anti women governing structure we have now.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:15 AM
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19. Anything can happen.
some of us are packing too.

:patriot:
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:28 AM
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22. WWII was not an invasion?
What was D-Day then?
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:30 AM
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23. An encroachment? A foray? An incursion?
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:42 AM
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29. I think the OP was getting at that Pearl Harbor was not an
Edited on Fri Aug-12-05 09:43 AM by lectrobyte
invasion of the US. It was a bombing attack. The last invasions of the U.S. were probably the British in the War of 1812, burning the Capitol Building etc. D-Day was our invasion of occupied Europe.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:39 AM
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26. China and Korea
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:42 AM
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28. How are they going to get here?
Again, I wish people understood the logistics of the military. China and North Korea could have 500,000,000 troops. It won't do them a lick of good because they can't get them off of Asia.

And even if they suddenly had the planes and ships to get their armies here and somehow had a staging area to put them in, we could probably destroy 90 percent of them on the way over.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:45 AM
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30. all of our troops and first responnders are in Iraq and Afghanistan
dontcha feel safe?
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 09:57 AM
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31. Luckily no army can get here
Unless Canada is suddenly going to get frisky, we are fine.

Granted, no one of this stops one crazy guy from bringing a bomb across the border. But no army can stop that either.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 10:13 AM
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32. They did and the results are still out
The Fascists have taken over and hardly a shot has been fired. They may dress and talk like Americans but their actions reveal their true character. America was invaded and occupied but it is an inside job.
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