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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:01 PM
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Tin Foil Hat Time - What is the WH hiding
that is bigger than the CIA agent story? This WH orchestrated press must be hiding something really important to blow all this smoke...
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:03 PM
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1. ABCNote has great questions - will the Broadcast media ask them?
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 01:08 PM by papau
ABCNote - Questions Media MUST ASK Bush re Wilson scandal


From the ABCnote:

"Has President Bush made clear to the White House staff that only total cooperation with the investigation will be tolerated? If not, why not?

Has he insisted that every senior staff member sign a statement with legal authority that they are not the leaker and that they will identify to the White House legal counsel who is?

Has Bush required that all sign a letter relinquishing journalists from protecting those two sources? Has Bush said that those involved in this crime will be immediately fired? If not, why not?

Has Albert Gonzalez distributed a letter to White House employees telling them to preserve documents, logs, records? If not, why not?

Has Andy Card named someone on his staff to organize compliance? If not, why not?

White House officials who might have legal or political exposure on this are going to have to decide whether to hire lawyers or not, and the White House counsel's office is going to have to decide what legal help they can and should provide to officials if and when the DOJ wants to talk to them.

That means that the '90s practice of every Washington bureau of calling members of the bar to see who has hired whom is about to heat back up. The first one to report someone hiring a criminal lawyer wins a prize, as does the first person who develops that lawyer as a source on all this.

A reminder that students of recusal politics will have to consider the Rove-Ashcroft history"





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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:12 PM
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4. I'm not familiar with this
A reminder that students of recusal politics will have to consider the Rove-Ashcroft history"

Can you expand my knowledge?


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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 02:20 PM
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8. They never find a conflict problem if GOP folks are involved -no recusal
:-)
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:09 PM
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2. Talk about missing the forest . . .
This IS a huge story. Beyond huge possibly. The White House deliberately outing an undercover agent in the press? Next to W getting caught with a twelve-year-old boy or finding a Swiss Bank Account in the name of "K. Rove," it's not going to get bigger.

A lesson to all you young people out there: This is the danger in playing with conspiracy theories. You actually miss the real scandals, because you assume all the bad stuff is kept hidden by some cabal of Haliburton execs and three Jews in a castle in Munich.
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:41 PM
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7. Memo to TheBoss:
A lesson to all you young people out there: This is the danger in playing with conspiracy theories. You actually miss the real scandals, because you assume all the bad stuff is kept hidden by some cabal of Haliburton execs and three Jews in a castle in Munich.

Has it occured to you that two members of the White House staff worked together to commit treason, and that this is the very definition of a "conspiracy theory"?

Of course, we all KNOW there is no such things as conspiracies, don't we?
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 02:23 PM
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9. It may very well be a conspiracy
but it is not the type of conspiracy theory that TheBoss is talking about.

TheBoss is correct. There is about a serious as it gets and the idea that the BFEE is using this story to cover up an even bigger story is silly. Unless Bush is found in bed with a dead boy, it doesn't get any bigger than this.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 02:42 PM
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10. Difference between conspiracy and 'conspiracy theory'
Conspiracies take place every day in DC to get some piece of legislation passed or someone fired or someone's name on tv. All these conspiracies are of differing degrees of legality. There could very well have been a conspiracy in the White House to out this person. In fact, I assume there had to be. I can't imagine that one staffer did something like this on a flyer.

"Conspiracy theories" are a different animal all together. This are the things were we wonder why all the Jews skipped work on September 11 or if a missle hit the Pentagon and not an airplane. These are often the product of an excitable mind and are a distraction from real crimes.

What I am saying is, if you are the type to believe that the Bush Administration planned 9/11, placed explosive charges in the World Trade Center, ordered an A-10 to attack the Pentagon, and the hid the plane containing Barbara Olsen, then, well, a simple White House leak looks pretty boring. On the other hand, if you are of a more sober mindset, the idea that the White House is leaking the names of CIA operatives in order to extract political revenge is shocking and detestable.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:10 PM
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3. That is a stupid question ...
I think it would be easier to answer:

What Aren't They Hiding ?

Is there anything this WH has done that is open / transparent ?

Cheers
Drifter

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:14 PM
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5. There are a lot of these threads right now.
Howabout posting on one of them. Really cuts down
on these one sentence wonders.
Thanks.
rfu
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 01:19 PM
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6. No tinfoil required
This is a simple case of petty revenge, executed by small-minded men with thin skins and thick skulls. In their towering arrogance, they felt they could play fast and loose, as they always have done.

The one might, or might not, bring them down. But with each petty atrocity, the scales of Justice tip further and further away from Team Shrub.

The free ride is about to end.

--bkl
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