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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 08:44 AM
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Sibel Edmonds on DemocracyNow ...Turkey may have bribed Hastert 500K...
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 09:08 AM by Junkdrawer
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/10/1346254

Transcript later....

On Update: better link
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 08:46 AM
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1. Smirky is going to Ill today, I believe, to Denny's territory to
try to bail him out of this one. The culture of corruption continues.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 08:53 AM
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3. If this story is correct, the Speaker/wrestling coach is in deep doo-doo!
It is amazing, it is getting all too believable that there would be this type of corruption in our Government. It would certainly explain what has been happening to Ms. Edmunds.

But the Bugman would then ascend to throne, unless there is an upheaval in the ranks.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 08:51 AM
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2. THANKS!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:06 AM
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4. While were waiting for the rush transcript, here's a link from LBN:

Turkish officials boasted of giving “tens of thousands of dollars in surreptious payments” to House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Illinois) in exchange for political favors. That allegation is contained a profile of Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) whistleblower Sibel Edmonds in the current issue of Vanity Fair magazine.

....

“Edmonds reportedly added that the recordings also contained repeated references to Hastert’s flip-flop, in the fall of 2000" to “the continuing campaign to have Congress designate the killings of Armenians in Turkey between 1915 and 1923 as genocide.”

According to the Vanity Fair article, the resolution never went anywhere until August 2000 when Hastert announced he was supporting it – in an effort to win over his district’s large Armenian community. According to the article, the resolution passed the House International Relations Committee by a large majority “thanks to Hastert.” “Then, on October 19, minutes before the full House vote, Hastert withdrew it,” the article reports. Hastert said at the time that he withdrew it because of a letter he received from President Bill Clinton that the bill would harm U.S. interests.

And while the Vanity Fair article reports that “there is no evidence that any payment was ever made to Hastert or to his campaigns,” it also reports that “a senior official at the Turkish Consulate is said to have claimed in one recording that the price for Hastert to withdraw the resolution would have been at least $500,000.”


....


http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/hastert080305.htm
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lockdown Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:38 AM
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5. Real money
Half a milllion for one favour? Few favours like that and you're talking real money, as they say.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 10:06 AM
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8. fitzpatrick should speak with her
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:41 PM
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17. I bet he has.
Peace.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:47 AM
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6. New info
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 09:47 AM by seemslikeadream
Office of Special Investigations Air Force is re-opening the investigation, wants Sibel to tesify
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:02 PM
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10. This investigation that they are reopening is of her coworker

Her coworker, Melek Can Dickerson (note that this is pronounced, Melek "Jan" Dickerson, properly in Turkish pronunciation of her name, which both Amy and David mispronounced in the interview), and her husband are currently living overseas in Belgium or someplace like that. The previous investigation was dropped, but now Rose notes that it has been reopened. The other investigations that Sibel might know about aren't affected by this from what I could read from that.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:13 PM
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11. Thanks calipendence
Was Sibel asked to testify in that investigation? I thought I heard that.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:15 PM
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12. My guess is that she wasn't...
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 12:17 PM by calipendence
It sounds like at the time (from what I read from earlier articles), that it was pretty well covered up. They had "quietly" moved to Belgium and were supposed to be doing some other "investigation" there I think, that noone could really substantiate. I think someone did them a favor and got them out of the country before the heat got turned up here (which looks to be happening now, from what David just said). Whether those that helped them get out had ties to the greater conspiracy, or were just trying to help "protect" a fellow FBI member without knowing the impact of their indiscretions of following protocol probably remains to be seen.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:22 PM
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15. Here's what I had about Dickerson, Sheehy's article is good
The deep politics of regime removal in Iraq:
Edited on Mon May-23-05 03:30 PM by seemslikeadream

James Woolsey: Iraqi Opposition Agent

Former CIA Director Woolsey is another important Nitze disciple, member of the Defense Policy Board, SAIS board member and Perle-Wolfowitz colleague. Nitze hired Woolsey for the SALT I negotiating team during the Carter years. Woolsey served Perle as general counsel of the Senate Armed Services Committee. During the Reagan-Bush era, Woolsey worked with Brent Scowcroft's strategic forces commission and on other defense assignments.

Woolsey also sits on the board of such spy-military industrial companies as DynCorp, Martin Marietta, British Aerospace Inc, Fairchild Industries. Along with a number of US elites, he is deeply involved in Central Asian oil politics and sits on the US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce.

Immediately after the September 11, 2001, attacks, Woolsey went to the media to blame the operation on Saddam Hussein. Woolsey flew to London in October 2001 with officials of the Defense and State Departments to gather evidence linking Hussein to 9/11.

At a July 24, 2002, Washington symposium hosted by the Institute of World Politics, Woolsey told the audience, "We are in a world war, we are in World War Four." He also declared that it had begun on 9/11, and he called for a pre-emptive strike against Iraq—even without a "smoking gun." In his speech, Woolsey declared that Saddam's "general support of terrorism" was enough justification.

Woolsey's anti-Saddam stance is no surprise, considering that he is a partner in the law firm of Shea & Gardner. Shea & Gardner is registered as a "foreign agent" for the Iraqi National Congress.

In 1998, Woolsey defended six INC-affiliated Iraqi resistance fighters whom the Clinton administration was trying to deport back to Iraq. Woolsey eventually negotiated a deal that domiciled five of the Iraqi agents in Nebraska. Woolsey was so incensed with the Clinton administration, and the intelligence community that had "spurned" him, that he bitterly called America "a fascist country."

Woolsey's intemperate "get Iraq" views continue to be featured prominently throughout the media. Salon.com published a typical offering, in which Woolsey connected 9/11 to the 1993 World Trade Center bombings and suggested that Ramsey Youssef was an Iraqi agent (not a member of Al Qaeda).
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Chin110702...


Take a visit via the Net to the world of associations.


One more time, G_j


the reality is that it and other affiliated associations are the US government.

...

It is in and through such associations that US political, economic and military policy is made and the American public subsequently "educated" to support policies that are not, and could not, be debated in public because of their illegality, audacity, complexity and, arguably, necessity.

...

America Gives Birth to New EuroAsia

Now, before you yell, "Conspiracy," you might want to think Necessity and Stability, particularly in light of the opening to Central Asia, the Caucasus and the new Europe provided by 9-11. Pull up Net maps of Central Asia, the Caucasus, and Europe. Once you've done that, consider what political, economic and military activities (defined as US national interests) the United States has underway in those regions. It is no less than the development of a US-dominated New EuroAsia that includes the "Stans," Ukraine, Chechnya, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Belarus, Romania, Bulgaria, Czech, Croatia, and Poland. Crazy? Hardly, it is a brilliant gamble. There are many compelling reasons to create a New EuroAsia with the US with a controlling interest.

...

ACPC was founded in 1999 and is chaired by former National Security Advisor Zibigniew Brezinski, former Secretary of State Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and former Congressman Stephen J. Solarz. ACPC, according to its website, is composed of more than one hundred distinguished Americans representing both major political parties and nearly every walk of life.

And who are those 100 Americans? Well, to name a few, there's Geraldine Ferraro, former Democratic candidate for vice president; Frank Gaffney, CEO of the Center for Security Policy whose board members include Doug Feith, Gordon Sullivan, CEO of the Army Association of the USA, and Bob Livingston of the Livingston Group; Elliot Abrams and Mike Leeden. And who would have guessed that Richard Gere and PJ O'Rourke would be members of the ACPC?

And the story gets routine and boring as it moves on. The honorary chair of the American Georgia Business Council (AGBC) is James Baker III. Its members include ExxonMobil, Northrop Grumman and Ernst &Young. President of the AGBC is S. Enders Wimbush, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and former Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) and Booz Allen Hamilton employee. A trustee of note on the Hudson Institute is Al Haig. The same connections, whether through individuals or organizations, can be found for Ukraine and Belarus, as well as Turkmenistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

Six Degrees of Zibigniew Brezinski

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/021805Stan...

There is so much information in this article


Whistlerblower Coming in Cold From The FBI

...

the article mentions a woman named Melek Can Dickerson, a Turkish woman married to a major in the U.S. Air Force. The woman told Edmonds that she couldn't believe America was monitoring people who were their chief "persons of interest" because Dickerson and her husband had done favors for them...shopping...

"Ms. Edmonds has told the Judiciary Committee that soon after, Ms. Dickerson tried to establish social ties with her, suggesting they meet in Alexandria and introduce their husbands to each other.

When Sibel invited the visitors in for tea, she said, Major Dickerson began asking Matthew Edmonds if the couple had many friends from Turkey here in the U.S. Mr. Edmonds said he didn't speak Turkish, so they didn't associate with many Turkish people. The Air Force officer then began talking up a Turkish organization in Washington that he described, according to the Edmondses, as "a great place to make connections and it could be very profitable."

Sibel was sickened. This organization was the very one she and Jan Dickerson were monitoring in a 9/11 investigation. Since Sibel had adhered to the rule that an F.B.I. employee does not discuss bureau matters with one's mate, her husband innocently continued the conversation. Ms. Dickerson and her husband offered to introduce the Edmondses to people connected to the Turkish embassy in Washington who belonged to this organization. ..."My husband keeps thinking he's talking about promoting business deals," Ms. Edmonds later said of the encounter. "He has no idea the man is talking about criminal activities with some semi-legitimate front."

These are classic "pitch activities" to get somebody to spy for you, according to a Judiciary Committee staffer who investigated Ms. Edmonds' claims. ...The targets of that F.B.I. investigation left the country abruptly in 2002. Later, Ms. Edmonds discovered that Ms. Dickerson had managed to get hold of translations meant for Ms. Edmonds, forge her signature, and render the communications useless."

more
http://www.gailsheehy.com/9_11/9_11_art1_21.html


working links here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3699042#3711949
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 09:52 AM
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7. WOW...must listen
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 11:56 AM
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9. kick
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:18 PM
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13. 'rush transcript' has been posted:
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 12:20 PM by understandinglife
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/10/1346254




Matthew Donaldson, an independent visual artist from Auckland. “On this, the 60th anniversary of Hiroshima's bombing, my grief for all of those murdered and yet to be murdered by America's weapons - of mass destruction or otherwise - overwhelms me” said Matt.

It overwhelms me, as well, Mathew.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:20 PM
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14. Thanks for posting! Just watched it and Wow!!! n/t
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:29 PM
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16. heh..heh
spin
motherfucker
spin
motherfucker
spin
motherfucker
spin
...on to Sensenbrenner. I am really enjoying these pigs roasting on the spit. If only the news would bring us as up close to these crooks as they do to horny teens in Aruba.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:44 PM
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18. Kick
Wow, 500K. That's a lot of pork.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:47 PM
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19. i'm sure Hannity will be covering this tonight...NOT
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:54 PM
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20. Wow, yet another example of treason amongst the repugs
When will the stench of this corrupt administration finally bring things to a tipping point?

:banghead:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:57 PM
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21. it would take 1 news show...1 hour of Sibel talking ...NBC Special Report
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:57 PM
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22. I'll kick any post about Sibel
As I've said before: her story is the key to bringing down this entire criminal cabal.
:kick:
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 04:02 PM
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25. big kick
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:10 PM
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23. Now there's a REAL "Turkeygate"
I'm sure Conyers will agree :-)

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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:37 PM
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24. Kick!
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