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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:00 AM
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Unbelievable
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 11:00 AM by DK666
So where is the “Christian” in this?
Have we stooped so low as to allow this to happen?

I live in San Diego and this is a very ANTI homeless city as you can see by the poll results.

This saddens me that the Salvation Army would even think of doing this. Doesn’t this go against their NON-Profit status?


Story Link......

http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/money/2517061/detail.html



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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:02 AM
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1. Assholes.
ANSWER: There is NOTHING Christian in doing this. Nor is there anything "Christian" in the overt anti-gay bias exhibited by the Salvation Army.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:07 AM
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4. What they will find is a box on the corner...I don't give to the
salvation army since I see they are affiliated with religious right.
They also said they would not hire gays...but...they sure don't turn down the goods or money from gay people.

That's not religion. That's the religious right.

They don't get my business or money any longer.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:04 AM
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2. Dear god in Heaven!
Edited on Mon Sep-29-03 11:05 AM by Padraig18
As a devout Catholic who is deeply and personally involved in solving issues such as hunger, homelessness and mental health, I find this policy antithetical to EVERYTHING I believe in! :grr:
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:05 AM
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3. "There'll be pie in the sky when you die"--That's a lie.
Typical wingnut self-righteous judgmental social darwin (here they accept Darwin) pull yourself up by the bootstraps bullshit. During the Depression, when 29% of households had no income, and there was no safety net, and the cities and states were all broke, Hoover vetoed a relief bill partially because he thought it would hurt the character of those receiving relief.

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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:22 AM
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17. Salvation Army!
To see how truly disgusting the Salvation Army is just Volunteer for a week and watch the back door, any thing worth a s*** never makes the sales floor. Now Bush would grant these hideous people more Tax payers dollars for providing a place for the homeless.

What worries me are the poll results, we have here a demo of why Bush is held in such high esteem by the freepers.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:07 AM
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5. It is absurd
I'm sure everyone that looks for shelter is just trying to rip the system off.....not. We are in a recession and millions of people can't find work. A very few at the bottom have "0" income and no chance of finding any work.

So what are we saying as a society? It's OK to give billions in corporate welfare and taxbreaks for those that need it least, but we can't take care of those that no choice or options?

Are we prepared to read about people dying in the streets from hypothermia and mal-nutrition?

This "compassionate conservatism" has got to stop.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:08 AM
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6. Compassionate Conservatism at its best!
chills the heart don't it...
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:09 AM
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7. Yes and no
IMO, I think it's wrong to charge the homeless after a week, but I also wonder if those who criticize the SA are willing to shelter the homeless for free for even seven days.

Our government (and by "our" I mean YOU and ME) does little to nothing for the homeless, and yet, we blame those who are actually do something for not doing enough.

Doesn’t this go against their NON-Profit status?

No because the $5 charge doesn't begin to cover the expenses.
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:09 AM
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8. That's nasty alright
If they can't pay the five dollars, must they live in the street?
Perhaps America could import those Iraqi 'people grinders'
to shred these layabouts into pizza toppings (offered at a Wal-mart near you under the Tyson label?)
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:12 AM
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9. What is really unbelievable
is the complete lack of attention paid to the problems of the homeless (and orphans, and abused and neglected children, and the mentally ill, and the handicapped, etc) by our government, which is secular in nature.

We emptied our mental institutions on the promise that we would provide treatement and services for them in their/our communities, and then reneged on that promise.
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:14 AM
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10. Yea
Reagan gave em a sandwich and bus fare to the west coast.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:16 AM
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11. Nope
It began during JFK and LBJ's terms
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:17 AM
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12. Didnt
Reagan really open the gates though ? Mabey Im wrong...
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:18 AM
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13. Reagan didn't "open the gates"
he just "went with the flow" :-)
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DK666 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:20 AM
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14. My Bad
Sorry for dropping the wrong info...... :+
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:21 AM
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15. In Brazil and Honduras they just shoot them - my prediction for US

We are probably a year or so from that, at which time some politician will suggest euthanasia as a humane alternative, which will receive surprisingly broad support from the affluent non-outsourced voting class.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:21 AM
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16. This is just the SA in LOUISVILLE.
AFAIK, there is no directive from the national SA to do this.

Each SA is like a franchise, for lack of a better term. There are more progressive ones, some wingnut ones, etc. I know a few SA captains and they're quite liberal and think this is a terrible idea.

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:22 AM
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18. Salvation Army lost my support when they openly came out as Republican
I used to feel they were the only really worthwhile charity. I no longer support them at all. They came out a year ago or such against gays & lesbians, and openly said they supported this Administration. I donate all my charitable contributions towards Breast Cancer research and like now.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:27 AM
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19. My sister-in-law is probably very unhappy at this.
She was a Salvation Army volunteer for years.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:29 AM
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20. Uhm, like spending the F-ING night at the Sally isn't 'incentive' enough!!
:wtf:

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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-03 11:42 AM
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21. We can be very hard in this country. Does it come from the Puritans?
Not to work and be beholding to any other person was a sin to them.Times were very hard for them also. If you did not help they did not want to feed you.
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