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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:35 PM
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DLC: You are the minority in this here Party.
Time to start acting like it.

Here's a good start: From now on, how about you start asking people for their opinions before deciding your positions on issues?

The DLC loves to tell people it's a big-tent party, but they aren't about inclusion, only about bending party activists to their will.

But I've got news for the DLC: Hillary won't win the Presidential nomination without us.

Progressives have taken back the Party. From the amount of money MoveOn and Howard Dean raised in 2004, to Dean's ascension to the chairmanship of the DNC, progressives are resurgent within the Democratic Party.

The DLC is desperate to prove its relevance. Here's an opportunity: stop trying to tell us what we should believe.

We've had enough of being told what to do by demonstrable losers with no goal outside of political expediency.

All this talk of making peace in the Party. We're here, we're listening, and we don't like what we're hearing. This is not a top-down party and it never will be.

It's time for the DLC to pipe down and start taking notes.

This Party is ours now, and you can't have it back.
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:39 PM
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1. Damn Right-- Preach On...
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:50 PM
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2. amen that...who can we contact with this message?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:00 PM
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5. I just figure putting it out there is enough for me.
It's important that we recognize that this party is no longer satisfied with mealy-mouthed leadership telling us what to do.

We believe in things, and if those who would deign to lead us cannot stand up for our beliefs, we'll find other leaders.

We don't need a leadership council to tell us how to win.

We already beat them for the chairmanship.

If the DLC wants a fight, I plan to whup their ass all the way to 2008.
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:57 PM
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3. Tell 'em! n/t
:bounce: :thumbsup:
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:57 PM
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4. This is our party and you can't have it back.
I love it! They are probably scratching their heads about the union split. Clueless, almost totally clueless. And I'm not radical, I just want things to work better for all Americans. The DLC talks a good story on some issues but they have no ability to either pull people together or actually do something substantive to get us out of this mess.

And I like Howard and Clark, what a breath of fresh air they bring in. :bounce:
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:02 PM
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6. I'm not radical either.
And I'm sick of being portrayed as an extreme-leftist by a bunch of corporate elitists. There's a word for them where I come from, and it ain't Democrat.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:27 PM
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7. Who put them in charge?
The DNC ought to rein these people in...they do not speak for me. If I wanted a Republican political perspective, I'd vote Republican.

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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:39 PM
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8. Their dollar signs.
At least that's how they view it.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:44 PM
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9. But a majority of small donors can outbid a wealthy minority.
That's the lesson of the 2004 primaries.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:54 PM
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13. Yes, but the DLC hasn't learned that lesson...
...They're a creature of big-ticket donors, and they want to keep it that way.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:02 PM
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14. If they didn't learn it last time, we'll just have to keep showing them.
No popular support, no electoral pull.

They can organize too. It's a free country. I invite the DLC to try grassroots organizing sometime.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:47 PM
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10. Okay...I used your post, with modifications, and sent them this letter:
To the DLC: Progressives have taken back the Party. From the amount of money MoveOn and Howard Dean raised in 2004, to Dean's ascension to the chairmanship of the DNC, progressives are resurgent within the Democratic Party. Hillary won't win the Presidential nomination without us. You are the minority in the Democratic Party. Perhaps it's time you started acting like it. Here's a good start: From now on, how about asking people for their opinions before deciding your positions on issues?

The DLC loves to tell people it's a big-tent party. If that's true, where have you made room in your big-tent for progressives and liberals who stand for the time-tested and true values of the Democratic Party?

The DLC is desperate to prove its relevance. Here's an opportunity: stop trying to tell us what we should believe.

We've had enough of being told what to do by demonstrable losers with no goal outside of political expediency. You've had your chance to show us some results and you failed miserably for the past 8 years!

All this talk of making peace in the Party. We're here, we're listening, and we don't like what we're hearing. This is not a top-down party and it never will be.

It's time for the DLC to pipe down and start taking notes.

This Party is ours now, and you can't have it back.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:49 PM
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11. Thanks.
I don't know that they will take it seriously, but they'd be fools not to. I'm not sure they really want to win though.

Seems all they want is to divide the DP so that the GOP can clean up at election time.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:08 PM
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16. I agree with that analysis. But, I want it to be made clear to them
and to all looking on. Feels to me that staying quiet just "enables" them. This way, we have our say - they've been put on notice -- and their actions will prove who/what they really are.

And it's good for the soul to get it out there. Maybe even good for the "collective" soul. So thanks loads for providing the raw materials for this letter. Others are also writing (here...http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... ), so the DLC will know that we're not sitting idly by while they pull this shit.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:51 PM
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12. Great letter!
:toast:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:07 PM
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15. Well said..
.... and 100% true.

These folks are stuck in olden times, before the internet. Back then, raising substantial amounts of campaign/activism money from individual donors was next to impossible.

While the DLC was sleeping, a new reality emerged. We don't need them or their corporate masters any more. We want results, we're willing to spend time and money to get them, and we see the way to make it happen, right here on our CRTs and TFTs.
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