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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:36 AM
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This school year, we're going to see what makes Communism tick
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 11:44 AM by Modem Butterfly
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:38 AM
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1. Ah yes...
They were giving up all that great freedom they enjoyed in Czarist Russia -- oh, those wonderful, freedom-filled days.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:40 AM
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2. I never realized, until I saw this comic that Czarist Russia was
a representative government! I need to read more comics I guess.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:44 AM
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3. The whole comic book is on-line. Check it out!
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:00 PM
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11. The Bolsheviks did not overthrow the Czarist regime in Russia...
That had already been accomplished in Feb/Mar 1917. The Bolsheviks ousted the provisional government of Alexander Kerensky in the Fall of 1917, which was primarily made up on anarchist factions. Then, the Bolsheviks carried out the executions of the Czar and his family, after they had been held in captivity for many months by the provisional government.

After the anarchists had been ousted, the Bolsheviks set up a secret police force to go after other factions on the LEFT in Russia -- the right had already been neutralized by this point.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:36 PM
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20. It's not even historically accurate propaganda
But it is hysterically accurate!
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:34 PM
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22. Yeah, that's for certain! (nt)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:39 PM
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23. Kerensky was what we'd call a social democrat.
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 03:39 PM by TahitiNut
The anarchists were only loosely affiliated with the pre-February 'Constitutional Monarchists,' afaik. Kerensky became Prime Minster and then President of the provisonal government.

GMTA, though ... see my post (#10) made 2 minutes before yours.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:45 AM
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4. the usual reich wing propaganda
What it's really about is discouraging equitable distribution of wealth (regardless of whether it's accomplished via fiat or progressive policy).
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:47 AM
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6. You'll notice one of the first things they do is FORCE women to work!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:47 AM
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5. Hey,
He was a DULY ELECTED Czar!
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:52 AM
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7. lol @ Hoover
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:54 AM
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8. Good old fashioned Red Baiting




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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:57 AM
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9. good times, good times
I like the message that the most effective thing you can do to fight communism is pray.

Jesus and Mammon, the twin gods of the capitalist state!

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:04 PM
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13. Note who the "bad guys" are:
librarians, professors, and union leaders. :eyes:
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The Revolution Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:15 PM
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17. Beware of librarians, university teachers, and union members
Got it. (why does that sound so familiar?)

Its a good thing Reagan defeated communism, otherwise we would have people blindly following the directions of their leaders, and believing everything they say.

Oh wait...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:58 AM
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10. Before people jump on an (false) historical 'inaccuracy' ...
... PLEASE be aware that there were a series of Russian Revolutions in the early 20th Century.

The first Russian Revolution (of 1905) created a Parliamentary Monarchy, where the 'pariliament' was called the Duma.

The second Russian Revolution (ending February 1917) resulted in the abdication of the Czar (Nicholas II).

The October (of 1917) Revolution is often termed the "Bolshevik Revolution" and signaled the destruction of a representative form of government by the Leninist forces.

The period subsequent to the October Revolution is often referred to as the (failed) White Revolution, of forces aligned against the Marxist-Leninist "Bolshevik" ascendancy.

Most folks don't realize there was a Prime Minister of Russia (Alexander Kerensky) in the interim and the beginnings of a democratic Constitutional Monarchy.
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KC_25 Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:06 PM
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14. Didnt know that...
If one wanted to do some more research into this... where should one start? Any good sites on the web?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:16 PM
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18. Wikipedia is a decent starting reference.
There's an abundance of historical sites.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:07 PM
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15. I Never Heard About Kerensky in School, Either
I would have liked to see that system given a longer opportunity.

It's ironic that the 1917 revolution which the comic decries is the same process that led to the parliamentary government they applaud just twelve years earlier.

I just hate propaganda of any kind, even if it's amusing.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:53 PM
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21. I was a close acquaintance to the widow of one of Kerensky's associates ..
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 12:54 PM by TahitiNut
... from the days Kerensky was at Stanford (in Palo Alto). The late Clara ________ was the widow of a professor at Stanford in the 50's who worked closely and socialized with Kerensky. I enjoyed many hours of discussion at Clara's home in Palo Alto (she enjoyed hosting small gatherings akin to lyceums - VERY interesting and interested people) over the years I lived near there (1983-2003). She had a rich understanding of those days and many photographs and anecdotes.

Read http://www.stanfordalumni.org/news/magazine/2001/janfeb...
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:01 PM
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12. sure enough
Striking parallels with Bushler's America, and obviously mischaracterizing Communist Russia for propaganda purposes (not that Communist Russia was a good thing).
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:15 PM
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16. Well Communist propaganda is no better......
judging from some of the stuff i saw and heard this weekend from the Communist takeover of Tibet.


scary stuff. I'll have to go a-googling when i get some time today.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:19 PM
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19. I hate Communism myself, but even I thought this was hilarious!!!
This was a GOOD read!!! LOL
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