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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:43 PM
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As a kid I loved video games
And as a young adult, I loved video games.

By the time I hit thirty, I was done. I didn't care about video games at all. It was over for me. They bored me.

Then I played GTA- vice city and those medal of honor games. I was hooked again.

As far as the controversy goes, I would love strictly adult video games.

Fuck the kids.

What say you, DU?
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:46 PM
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1. Yeah!
I never started playing till I was 44 years old. Now 60 and still playing. RPG's. It's a parents responsibility like everything else to monitor what their kids are doing. Not Government.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:48 PM
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2. welcome to DU!
Peace and low stress.
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:00 PM
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15. Thanks for the Welcome
I like it here!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:03 PM
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16. (and it will get better)
peace!
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:48 PM
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3. I've never played any
video games until a couple of months ago, and I am hooked. Actually, I'm only playing one SOCOM - don't ask my why, but it's just fun.
That said, my government should stay out of the video-game regulation business. The business itself is doing a good job on their own. We have far too much government in our lives. Where is our freedom of choice?
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:50 PM
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4. Well, this just means that you are maladjusted!
You were grown-up and then you started playing those evil mindlessly violent games again, gave your soul to Satan, and became immature!

Next thing you know, you'll be moving back into your mother's basement!

:sarcasm:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:53 PM
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8. yup, yup, lol!
as maladjusted as they get. But this is a free country. The basement is fine with me.!
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ironman202 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:25 PM
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23. this presumes that he was mature to begin with...eom
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:51 PM
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5. Check this DU thread
My opinion is there.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:51 PM
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6. Fuck the kids?
I'm not sure I can get behind such a selfish shortsighted attitude.

But let me say I am opposed to governmental regulation of such games (beyond parental guides already in place).

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:55 PM
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9. I mean the 17 year olds that are tainted by this game...
maybe not fuck em. Hell, I approve my local school board budget every year... I care, really.
Well, not really, but still...
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:52 PM
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7. LOL
Fuck the kids.
Kids will have to pry my M rated games from my cold, dead hands.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:55 PM
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10. Only the 17 year olds
...
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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:56 PM
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I Still Play Video Games
I don't have as much free time as I once did, but I still play racing games on my PC once in awhile. My favorite is NASCAR Racing 2003 because I can paint my own race cars, and I can take a few hot laps on any of the downloadable tracks and put it aside.

That's right. I am a NASCAR fan AND a progressive!
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:00 PM
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14. welcome to DU
we need more progressive car fans...
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:56 PM
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11.  I cant play video games any more
My hands tremor too dang much. Anyone up for a good ole game of dungeons and dragons?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:57 PM
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13. Nope D&D leads to suicide
I'll stick to my crazy video games. :~)
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:05 PM
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17. It's true.
I saw it in a Tom Hanks documentary.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:06 PM
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18. Forrest Gump Tom Hanks
rEALLY?

not really, right?
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:07 PM
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19. Mazes and Monsters.
It was some of his early journalistic work.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:57 PM
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12. The average video game player is in their late twenties
early thirties.

There's a serious generation gap.

There's no shortage of old farts who think that games haven't changed since they played Ms. Pac Man as a teenager.
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kcwayne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:07 PM
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20. As a kid, there was no such thing as video games
I spent my time building rafts to explore the Dismal Swamp in Virginia, playing baseball, exploring canyons in the outskits of San Diego, and riding my bike all over.

As an adult, I am bored by video games, from pinball to pong to flight simulator, they just don't capture my attention span.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:08 PM
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21. For all this talk of "protecting the children"...
...people tend to lose sight of the fact that the "sweet spot" in the modern video game market segmentation is the demographic of males age 25-35.

Kids play games. Adults are playing games even more. And adults are the ones making the purchases.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:12 PM
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22. For myself as a kid, video games didn't exist.
we had books, jumprope,swimming, baseball etc. I don't let my children have video games. They have books, jumprope, swimming, baseball etc.

"fuck the kids?" :eyes:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:14 PM
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32. that was my over the top, Dean influenced, comment
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lovelaureng Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:33 PM
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24. Word!
I agree with you.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:39 PM
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25. 61 years old - still love rolel playing video games.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:45 PM
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26. They'll have to pry the controller..
from my cold, arthrosed hands.

One radiologist I've worked with tells me to "take good care of my joints" if I want to play into my golden years..
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:03 AM
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27. Alrightee - strange question
Seeing there are some "old geezers" here that enjoy on-line games, here is my question. Does anyone want to start a clan on Socom 2? Would be nice to play with someone of my generation. Sometimes the "young 'ens" get annoying. And NO, I'll never live in my parents basement. :rofl:
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:12 AM
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28. I'm there with ya!
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 10:16 AM by SemperEadem
I've played all of the Final Fantasy series up to #10
I've played all of the Tomb Raider series
I've played various RPG's--they are my favorites
I've played both Spyro's with my 9 yr old niece, as well as Kya--we're both stuck at the lava run.
I just played Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets on my computer and am hooked on it.
LOTR-ROTK is kicking my butt and I can't get past the first mission.
Cool Boarders #1 was da bomb!!!!
Game Genies/Game Sharks/Code Breakers RULE!!!! I ain't got all day.

GTA--if only I had the patience and dexterity to drive the car and not run into everything, I'd get somewhere in that game. I prefer watching my 21 yr old daughter play.. she's gangsta, s0n!
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:33 AM
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29. Serious SemperEadem?
If you're serious about this, I have another friend who'll be in on it too. e-mail me at [email protected]

Ohhhh, I'm excited!!! Btw - I'm not a very good player.
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Che Lives Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:20 PM
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34. SOCOM II
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 01:36 PM by Che Lives
Seriously, GTA is lots of fun, but the best online game experience in history is not Halo, not Madden Football, it's SOCOM and its successor, SOCOM II. What's more, SOCOM III is due out in September. Grownup fans of SOCOM often feel out of place because of all the kids who play the game. It is a great place to communicate via headset and even make friends... but if the majority of players is late teens or even early 20's, then a 56 y.o. like me cannot take full advantage of this camaraderie that is built in to SOCOM. I've formed a clan specifically for like-minded people and adults, called Democratic Underground Alliance, with clan tag DEM. If you play SOCOM II and wish to join this clan, contact me with your player name and I will send you an invite. There are currently two members. It is a game of skill, strategy, cooperation, and teamwork that is highly addictive. Far better than passive TV watching for relaxation. I am !Che Lives! on SOCOM II, but also play as GeorgeWHitler and C4 up ur Ahole. Join! It's fun. Maps of choice are Foxhunt, Vigilance, Abandoned, Blood Lake, Rat's Nest, Fish Hook, and others. BTW, SOCOM II has been out so long that you can pick it up in stores for around $20, or less in used condition. PS2 only. Buy it and try it! I don't think you will be disappointed.
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mixedview Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:12 AM
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30. GTA is the DOOM of this generation
Long before Grand Theft Auto swept the video gaming world, whiz kids John Romero and John Carmack were shaking things up with their influential-and sometimes controversial-video game creations.

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Doom, the video game in which you navigate a dungeon in the first person and messily lay waste to everything that crosses your path, represented a milestone in many areas. It was a technical landmark, in that its graphics engine delivered brilliant performance on ordinary PC hardware. It was a social phenomenon, with individuals and companies hooking up networks specifically for Doom tournaments and staying up for days to blast away on them (well before the Internet went big-time). The game's publisher, id Software, used an unusual shareware marketing strategy (give away the first levels, charge for the more advanced ones) that worked very well. On top of it all, the gore-filled game raised serious questions about decency in products meant for use by school-age kids. Masters of Doom explores the Doom phenomenon, as well as the lives and personalities of the two men behind it: John Carmack and John Romero.


Masters of Doom: How Two Guys Created an Empire and Transformed Pop Culture



I remember how when DOOM came out (early 90's) and we were all wielding our BFG 'takin out those demons' - it was amazing! There were cries for censorship because of the oh so delicious blood and guts and killing, but fortunately for us hardly anyone understood computers - not only that, people couldn't afford to offend us geeks because everyone NEEDED us to build the future ! (no 'plug and play' back then) Ha !

Anyway, I do see the parent's side of the argument. These games should not be available for children. And it's not just about these games. There should be a HARD wall between ADULT culture and CHILD culture and this wall should be enforced. Parents are pissed because adult culture and child culture are routinely blended together (drinking, smoking, porn etc) - there is no line - which IMO is infringing on the rights of the parents. I feel their pain. I also think that if the wall was enforced better, adult culture would be much better :evilgrin: . For example, I support the legalization of marijuanan and prostitution. But parents will never support efforts to legalize because the are RIGHTLY AFRAID that because there is no wall between adult and child culture, their kids would wind up pot smokin prostitutes ! I say be serious about enforcing the wall, and things will be great for all of is - the child, the parent and the dirty adults/young adults like me !


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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:54 AM
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31. I'm a parent who supports legalized marijuana and prostitution
I'd like to think I can discourage my daughter from being a prostitute regardless of its state of legality. And I'm a lot more concerned about the potential for alcohol abuse than marijuana use. (In particular because people are much more likely to do extremely stupid things when they are drunk than when they are stoned.)

I don't think there should be a hard wall between adult and child culture. That'd make for a rather abrupt change when a child hit their 18th birthday. Adolescence is about making a slow transition between childhood and adulthood, and even drawn out over several years it's difficult. Making the jump overnight would be overwhelming.

Clearly we don't want them airing pornos over videoscreens at Chuck E. Cheese's (at least most of us don't), but we need to accept the fact that sex and violence are a part of our world and our children can't be sheltered from these things for their first 18 years. Part of the job of parents, schools, and communities, is to practice the delicate art of introducing these adult concepts to their kids in an appropriate manner.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:16 PM
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33. makes sense
:kick:
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