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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:38 PM
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What the hell is going on in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 10:39 PM by Jara sang
I was just going over some articles about the war and came up with these two items:

From January 9th 2002
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/jan-june02/w...

The U.S. lost its first solider to enemy fire in Afghanistan on January 4. Green Beret Nathan Ross Chapman was killed during a small-arms battle with hostile forces in eastern Afghanistan.
Afghan leaders say a 14-year-old boy may be responsible for the soldier's death.


From April 18th 2003
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2003/b04182003_bt25...

Das was the pilot of an F-15E that went down April 7 during a combat mission in Iraq. The incident remains under investigation.

A 14 year old boy killed a an Army green beret? And it also looks like the Iraqis are capable of taking down our high performance U.S. Air Force aircraft. How is this happening? I thought we had the most elite fighting force on the face of the planet.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:40 PM
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1. More lives lost. More money wasted.
A shameful waste. A moral morass.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:40 PM
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2. We HAD the most elite force. Then Rummy took over
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:43 PM
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3. They have adapted
we should not be there and Bush should be in prison .
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:47 PM
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4. You hardly hear about it, pretty much down the memory hole--even here...
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 11:07 PM by linazelle
So much for walking and gum chewing. :eyes:
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:53 PM
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5. War, more war, and more war...death
more death and more death... Cheney getting rich, richer and so forth. Must be nice to be part of a family who banks on the blood of others.
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b4naftsci Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:58 PM
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6. why i joined

the news organizations are totally useless. no mention of Rove, Iraq, or Afghanistan. First it was the shuttle now it's the court nominee.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:16 PM
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8. welcome to DU
:hi:

you'll find the news here that MSMCON doesn't want anyone to know.

dp
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 04:06 AM
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9. Welcome
And as for news, here are some places that are credible:

Alternative Press
TruthOut: http://www.truthout.com
Raw Story (my fave, of course): http://www.rawstory.com
Alternet: http://www.alternet.com
to name a very small few (there are many more, but it is 5 am)

Alt Print/Online:
The Nation
Mother Jones
Harpers

Blogs/forums:
DU (you are here)
Americablog
Daily Kos
Atrios
BradBlog

MSM (but good):
Countdown on MSNBC
PBS (well, let's see what happens there)
BBC
WaPo (sometimes and sometimes not)
Newsweek (tending toward solid lately)
New Yorker
Christian Science Mon. (excellent)


okay, at 5 am this is what I came up with... but there are more in terms of alternative press, news, blogs, etc.

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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:41 AM
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11. First Post Home Run!
Welcome to DU! We are now busy following the "Back to the Past" SC nominee. NO mistakes have been made -- ever!
:freak:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:31 AM
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14. Hi b4naftsci!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:02 PM
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7. Well...
Having a Green Beret doesn't make you bulletproof. And if you lower your guard because 'he's just a kid', the kid can pull a gun on you and shoot.

As for the F-15... a piece of metal (say, a anti-aircraft cannon round) in the wrong place can bring one down.

"Best" doesn't mean invincible.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:35 AM
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10. I realize that.
My dissatisfaction is with the administration and the media. Why aren't they reporting these things? I'm sure the "real" cause for that F-15 being shot down will be under investigation for a long time. I mean it is being reported, but the issues aren't really being addressed.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:18 PM
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15. sorry.
tone of post and all.

Planes go down for the darndest reasons. I remember a Naval Aviation accident report that read (free translation) "to avoid hitting a bird, he crashed into the ocean". BTW, this was off the coast of California... no possible hostile action.

And it's not getting reported because "The Media" decided that they didn't have time to bother with it that day.

Freedom of the Press is limited to those who own one.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:08 AM
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12. For current news on Afghanistan & Iraq 24/7; example of today's headlines
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 08:15 AM by LynnTheDem
Afghanistan News Now

-Afghanistan is in chaos

-14 killed in fighting across Afghanistan

-The situation in "liberated" Afghanistan is one of barely managed chaos

-2 bombs in Afghanistan

-Afghanistan: Mission Crumbling

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=Afghanistan

War Report; Iraq & Afghanistan

-Evidence Suggests al-Qaeda's Return to Afghanistan: Experts

-Afghanistan Coaxing Mid-Level Taliban into Fold

-Baghdad Hospital Doctors on Strike Against Soldiers

-Iraq's Descent Into Bombing Quagmire

http://www.comw.org/warreport /

Iraq News Now

-Algerian diplomatic staff abducted in Baghdad

-HPG warning to Turkish military: You will fall into a quagmire

-Suicide car bomb kills five in Iraq

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=Iraq

ICCC's Afghanistan page;

07/20/05 Aljazeera: Six killed in Afghan bombings
Four suspected Taliban fighters have been killed after a roadside bomb they were laying blew up prematurely in southern Afghanistan, while in the country's east a blast under an army truck killed two soldiers.

07/19/05 AP: Afghan police thwart rocket attack on dam
Police said Tuesday they had thwarted a rocket attack against a major hydropower dam near Kabul, the latest threat to stability in Afghanistan ahead of parliamentary elections.

07/19/05 AP: Suicide bomber kills self in Afghanistan
A bomber blew himself up near a district chief's house in western Afghanistan on Tuesday, killing only himself, officials said. No other casualties were reported.

07/18/05 Xinhuanet: Norway to send special forces to Afghanistan
Norway's Defense Ministry will send more special forces to Afghanistan at the end of the month.

07/18/05 IOL: Two Zimbabweans killed in landmine blast
Two Zimbabweans were killed in Afghanistan and one seriously injured when a landmine they were clearing exploded, the official Herald newspaper said on Monday.

07/17/05 Reuters: Over 60 killed as fighting flares on NW Frontier
U.S., Afghan and Pakistani forces have killed more than 60 suspected foreign militants and Taliban insurgents during the past three days in a series of clashes in restive tribal lands in the North-West Frontier region, military officials said on Sunday

07/17/05 Xinhuanet: Senior Taliban commander detained
Afghan National Army (ANA) has captured a senior Taliban commander in the restive Uruzgan province, Defense Ministry spokesman said Sunday.

07/17/05 Xinhuanet: 4 US soldiers wounded in southern Afghanistan
Four US soldiers have been wounded when their vehicle was struck by an improvised explosive device near the Sharona Provincial Reconstruction Team in the southern province of Paktika, the US-led coalition forces said Sunday.

07/17/05 Reuters: Afghan, U.S. forces kill 20 Islamic militants
The Afghan army and U.S.-led forces killed 20 Taliban insurgents and Islamic militants in fierce fighting in the restive southeast of the country, an Afghan defence spokesman said on Sunday.

07/17/05 Reuters: Pakistan says kills 17 militants near Afghan border
At least 17 suspected foreign militants, along with women and children, were killed in a clash with Pakistani security forces on Sunday near the Afghan border, the Pakistan military said.

07/16/05 M&C: Seven Afghan police, four insurgents killed in southern Afghanistan
Seven Afghan policemen and four Taliban fighters were killed after the rebels attacked a police checkpoint in Afghanistan's southern province of Kandahar, police said Saturday.

07/16/05 Xinhuanet: Taliban hangs Afghan chieftain on charge of spying for US
Taliban militants executed an Afghan chieftain on charge of spying for US military in the insurgency-plague Zabul province in south Afghanistan, an official in Zabul said Saturday.

http://icasualties.org/oef /

And of course ICCC's Iraq page;

07/21/05 KSL: Utah Marine Thankful to Be Alive
Lance Corporal Robin Griffiths was injured during a a mortar attack. Burns covered 35-percent of his body, shrapnel tore into his right leg and shattered his right elbow. It cut his chest and face.

07/21/05 AP: Ministry of Trade Employee, Iraqi Guard Killed
an employee of the Ministry of Trade was killed in a drive-by shooting. Explosives were thrown into the compound of a British security firm in the western Yarmouk neighborhood, killing one Iraqi guard and injuring two others.

07/21/05 AP: Three Local Councilmen Killed
Unidentified gunmen assassinated three members of the Qadisiyah provincial council as they were heading to an Internet cafe in the western neighborhood of Khadhra.

07/21/05 AP: Algerian diplomat kidnapped in Baghdad
Algeria's top envoy to Iraq and his driver were abducted Thursday in a western Baghdad neighborhood, police and embassy employees said.

07/21/05 CNN: Five More Iraqis Killed
four people were killed and four others, including a child, were wounded Wednesday in bombings in and near Hilla. In a drive-by shooting, gunmen killed the imam of a mosque, Sheikh Ahmed Ali Abdulla, in southern Baghdad's Dora neighborhood.

07/21/05 CNN: Eight killed in Mosul attacks
Four separate attacks in and around the city of Mosul killed eight people and wounded four others, including two U.S. soldiers.

07/21/05 AP: Car bomber kills another Iraqi soldier in Baghdad suburb
A second Iraqi army checkpoint in the southern Baghdad suburb of Bueitha was also hit by a suicide car bomber, killing one soldier, al-Zeiadi said. Six soldiers were injured, he said

07/21/05 AP: Car bomber kills six soldiers in Mahmoudiyah
A suicide car bomber rammed into an Iraqi army checkpoint south of Baghdad, killing six soldiers in Mahmoudiyah, about 30 kilometers (19 miles) south of the capital.

07/20/05 National Guard and Reserve Mobilized as of July 20, 2005
This week, the Marine Corps and Navy announced an increase in the number of reservists on active duty, while the Army, Air Force and Coast Guard numbers decreased. The net collective result is 1,556 fewer reservists mobilized than last week.

07/20/05 AP: Army Cites Drop in Suicides Among Soldiers
The overall mental health of U.S. soldiers in Iraq has improved from the early months of the insurgency, with a significant drop in suicides, but a majority still say morale is low, the Army said Wednesday.

07/20/05 AFPS: In Other News From Iraq
Terrorists blew up a newly built police station in the Lutafiyah district of south Baghdad just after midnight July 20. No one was injured in the explosion because the police had not yet moved into the station, but the building was destroyed.

07/20/05 newkerala: Sunni Arabs withdraw from Iraq's constitution team
Sunni Arabs in Iraq's constitution committee suspended their membership Wednesday following the gunning down of three colleagues, reports Xinhua.

07/20/05 Reuters: Vice President of Basra Municipality Shot Dead
Vice president of Basra municipality was shot dead by gunmen in the city 550 km (340 miles) southeast of Baghdad. Basra's province council said Hussein Hameed al-Darraji was killed early this morning while leaving his home.

07/20/05 DoD Identifies Army Casualty
Pvt. Lavena L. Johnson, 19, of Florissant, Mo., died July 19 in Balad, Iraq, of non-combat related injuries. Johnson was assigned to the Army's 129th Corps Support Battalion, Fort Campbell, Ky.

07/20/05 UPI: Egypt ambassador in Iraq still alive?
Egypt's ambassador to Iraq Ihab Sherif might still be alive despite al-Qaida's claim it killed him. Najib Saweeros was quoted Wednesday in Cairo's daily al-Gumhuriyah as saying there are indications Sherif was not killed.

07/20/05 AP: Nine dismissed from tribunal trying Saddam
Nine staff members of the Iraqi Special Tribunal preparing to try Saddam Hussein have been dismissed because of links to the ousted dictator's Baath Party. The cases of 19 others, including the chief investigative judge, are under review.

07/20/05 Gannett: Veterans to assist Marine who lost leg in Iraq
A group of South Mississippi veterans wounded in past wars wants to ease the struggle of a Marine who lost his leg in Iraq. LCpl. Aaron Rice is continuing rehabilitation at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C.

07/20/05 AP: El Salvador may commit more Iraq troops
Salvadoran President Tony Saca said Tuesday he would be willing to send more humanitarian troops to Iraq despite the ongoing threat of terror attacks against U.S. allies there.

07/20/05 Xinhuanet: Car bomb blast hits US patrol in northern Iraq
"A booby-trapped vehicle, parked on the side of a road in Toz-Khormatu, blew up early morning as a US military patrol passed by, destroying a US Hamvee killing or wounding all on board," the US-Iraqi Joint Coordination Center, told Xinhua.

07/20/05 Aljazeera: Allawi escapes assassination bid in Lebanon
Members of the Lebanese Shiites movement Amal thwarted the attack, Allawi said at a joint news conference with Iraq's President Jalal Talabani.

07/20/05 AP: Helicopter Crashes Near Taji
A U.S. helicopter was forced to make an emergency landing in Taji, north of Baghdad, because of mechanical problems. No injuries were reported, a military spokesman said.

07/20/05 AP: Explosions Reported at Milatary Base in Ramadi
Ten explosions were heard Wednesday afternoon at the American military base in Ramadi's eastern neighborhood of Al-Ziraa, 1st Let. Mohamed Al-Obeidi of the city police said. It was unclear what caused the explosions.

07/20/05 AP: Two Pipelines Damaged
An early morning blast hit a pipeline 10 miles south of Samarra, linking the Beiji and Dora refineries, said Capt. Ahmed Salih. A Tuesday explosion occurred at a crude oil storage depot 25 miles south of Baghdad, said another policeman.

07/20/05 aftenposten: Aid groups evaluate new threat in Iraq
Norwegian aid organizations are among those targeted in a new warning issued by an insurgent group called the al-Ruud Brigade. The brigade has warned them to leave northern Iraq within two weeks or face attack.

07/20/05 mytelus: 10 dead in Baghdad suicide blast
As many as 10 people were killed Wednesday when a suicide bomber detonated outside a military recruiting centre in Baghdad. More than 20 people were injured in the blast, which happened at the entrance to the building, said Iraqi police.

07/20/05 Reuters: Iraq constitution body in turmoil
Four Sunni Arabs on the team charged with writing Iraq's constitution suspended their membership on Wednesday after the killing of three colleagues, a move that could delay the drafting of the landmark charter.

07/20/05 dailymail: Charges facing British troops
The first case centres on allegations of offences against Iraqi detainees in Basra in September 2003, and involves seven servicemen. One of the detainees, hotel receptionist Baha Da'oud Salim Musa, died.

07/20/05 AFPde: Iraqi constitution draft severely curtails women's rights
A draft of Iraq's new constitution would greatly curtail women's rights, imposing the Sharia or Koranic law in personal matters like marriage, divorce and inheritance, as well as their representation in parliament, The New York Times said.

http://www.icasualties.org/oif /

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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:44 AM
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13. Thanks LynntheDem!
I do check lunaville regularly! :hi:
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