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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:09 PM
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Never mind
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 06:31 PM by WilliamPitt
Never, ever, ever post when you are pissed off. That's what my mom says, anyway.

Apologies to anyone I offended.
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:12 PM
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1. AMEN
if anything.

this nominee is the nominee of all those lame fucks who go on and on about how fucked our government is, but didn't vote.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:13 PM
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2. As an election skeptic, don't you think you're being a little harsh?
Clearly, Kerry got immense and unified support in November.

This column reads like another broadside at a faction of the Party...in essence an example of that which you seem to be protesting.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:17 PM
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6. They are of no party
hence they are no faction of anything. They are islands unto themselves. But there are enough of them, and they are loud enough, to fuck things up.

And there is a lot more to this than just Kerry.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:21 PM
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9. Well, if you're talking greens and fringe/anti-Dem lefties...
...then yeah, they have screwed themselves and us as well.

"The lesser of two evils is still evil."

Maybe, but it's still LESS evil.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:33 PM
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23. Second tasteblind's response
The feeling is natural and an example of what it is complaining about. I have noticed at key times a lot of threads like this get started with the net result being an attempt to silence opposition voices, divide board members, ruin areas of questioning. It too does not matter if these timely bickerings- and complaints about bickerings- these useless depressing round robins- are the result of moles or pessimists.

So it would help to focus on the needs of the moment. Research. Strategy.
The relentless struggle against the wall regardless of the odds or the emotions.

As for telling people I told you so remember all the millions who have not been allowed to hear or understand by institutions betraying them. It is unlikely anyone will hear that message yet unless it comes as a limited "great surprise" to a media forced by the eruption of one of many horrendous scandals they have been body-blocking since day one.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:14 PM
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3. fight now! Read this and rue the day folks....
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:15 PM
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4. We're stuck with a President for 8 years at most
(and they can be ousted after 4)

But a Supreme Court Justice gets a lifetime appointment and their decisions live even longer.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:17 PM
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5. this has been my rant for the last 24 hours. the automatic attack
on dems. if there is shit on roberts, get him. but as soon as it came out people were yelling if dems dont do this that is it, i am outta here. if you dont agree with me you are coward, not a dem, rollover, lay down, wuss.....or my favorite

i am not for womens rights. an old woman. fighting for my right all my life

wtf

there were snide remarks to anyone that didnt tow the line of total destruction of our party over this "fight".

but then, i say after a breath. this is internet. people get to be as absurd as they want on the internet. reason isnt necessary. loud voices, harsh language, a ok.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:17 PM
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7. oh. please.
:eyes:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:22 PM
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11. May I second...
that eyeroll? :eyes:
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:19 PM
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8. Fantastic Post
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 06:21 PM by Lecky
...and recommending!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:21 PM
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10. Sorry, Will. I'm not gonna bite on this one, hon.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:24 PM
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12. A slightly different point....
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 06:27 PM by Wetzelbill
Why are some people who demanded purity in a Democratic Presidential candidate, not demanding the same purity from Senators who may vote to confirm a right-wing SC Nominee?

Why are some people who were adamantly against Kerry because of his war vote, not adamantly for fighting against the confirmation of an anti-women's rights SC nominee?

Sure, there are strategic points, but I don't like the idea of selling women out because we face impossible odds on this issue. No Dem worth their salt should vote to confirm this guy, other than the anti-choice ones like Harry Reid. In that case, it's his business. But any pro-choice Dem who votes for this guy is just selling out their supposed conviction.

Edit for typos
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:25 PM
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13. Not really any comment on the post as a whole, but
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 06:26 PM by Bouncy Ball
this stuck out to me:

"You attack your friends to prove that you have some kind of hard-Left street cred."

It made me giggle. Hard-Left street cred. I have yet to meet anyone in person like that. Are these third party people you are talking about? That would be funny on a t-shirt. Don't be messin' with my hard-left street cred.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:33 PM
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24. oh yeah? I'm bad to the bone......
with my Hard-Left Street Cred. Cruisin' around on my electric fueled, Harley, smoking organic Cigs and wearing my Hemp Modified Jean Jacket.(I even lost myself on that one) The name of my gang is The Nader Boyz. Peace out. :) :) :hippie: :smoke:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:43 PM
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26. LMAO!!!!
Oh yeah??? Well, I'VE got more Hard-Left Street Cred in my little finger than you do in your whole patchouli-smelling body!

In fact, the name of my gang is South Side Hippie Killaz. R u down wit the South Side Hippiez? No, because you and your gang suck! WE HAVE MORE STREET CRED--my hog is made of HEMP, the ENTIRE THING.

Anyone who catches some of my exhaust is too dazed to come after me.


SSHK4L. South Side Hippie Killaz 4 Life.


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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:46 PM
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27. well what do you expect? The Nader Boyz, I mean really,
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 06:50 PM by Wetzelbill
we're named after Ralph Nader, we can't take anybody in a fight. But, if you were to get into a fight with a rival gang, we could jump in and screw it all up for you. That's pretty much our thing. :)

Patchouli-smelling bodies? hahaha, I can barely type, lol. I can't beat that one.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:47 PM
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29. OMG that'd be great.
We're always throwin down wit the North Side Liberaler Than Thou Gangstaz.

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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:48 PM
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30. I know a couple people like that in real life, though not on DU.
Guy in our town thinks the Health Food store is evil because some of its products contain sugar. THAT kinda guy. Won't even vote because Dems are no better than republicans.

I'm going to send him a little note if Roberts gets confirmed: See, THIS is why republicans are worse than democrats, dumbwad!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:50 PM
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31. Oh like THAT!
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 06:50 PM by Bouncy Ball
Ok, I know one guy like that. Bitches about both parties. Doesn't vote. Whatthefuckever. I get the sense he just enjoys the bitching about stuff.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:25 PM
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14. Get down off that cross.
It's my turn! :evilgrin:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:29 PM
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20. You're gonna get splinters!!!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:26 PM
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15. Kinda disagree. This one is for Bush** voters, even the
moderates. I'm frequently put into the "left-wing fringe" group, but I've never said there was no difference between Dems and Repugnants. I proudly voted for Gore and I was devastated when my state voted for the Global Village Idiot as opposed to the much superior Native Son. I got in line and not only voted for Kerry, but I tried to convince people in convenience store parking lots, grocery store parking lots, etc. to do the same. Hey I was even not likin' Go To Hell Zell before it was acceptable to do so here.

I'm a liberal Democrat dammit, and I have the right to state when and where I think Dems are makin' mistakes. I don't own this...people who voted for Dimson** own this, but a lot of us are going to get slammed by this nominee.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:26 PM
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16. Yeah, and gays screwed us in 2004.
...
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:27 PM
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17. A gay person never screwed me!
;-)
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:28 PM
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19. .
:rofl:
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:28 PM
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18. For all the bitching....
and moaning and "running down" that happened here on DU and elsewhere(and continues to happen) the vast majority of those doing the complaining sucked it up and voted Democratic in 2004 at the end of the day.

Just as they were begged to do.

And, when the chips are down again, most will do so again.

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:31 PM
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21. What nonsense.
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 06:33 PM by David Zephyr
Quoting H.L. Mencken doesn't work.

You've attacked the Democrats just as much as many here...

So by your self-righteous logic, "this is your nominee", too, William.

But if it soothes your anger, then you can blame me.

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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:32 PM
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22. heck, personally i wasn't offended. i was amused.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:37 PM
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25. Cool.
Now that's the William Rivers Pitt that I tell people to read. :toast:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:47 PM
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28. It's all right, Will. We're all pissed. And I do regret that 2000 went to
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 06:48 PM by GreenPartyVoter
** whether due to election theft or my party running Nader. If I'd had a crystal ball I would have tried to do something about the situation, but at the time it seemed like a good chance to make a protest vote that was safe. (Who in heck would vote for ** when it was clear that English wasn't even his first language?!)

But we're here now. And we have a long hard fight ahead of us. And we have to take anyone and everyone who is willing to join us in the fight that we can. Even if they don't seem like they belong here.

Politics makes for strange bedfellows, indeed.

NGU!! :hug:
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:58 PM
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32. Locking.
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 07:00 PM by pinto
Poster has edited the original post to "never mind".
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