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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:04 PM
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Poll question: Roberts or Rove?
You know the MSM is a one trick whore...er...pony.

So which story would you like to see them focus on, knowing that they can't do both?


The Roberts SCOTUS Nomination?


Or That Treasonous BASTARD fucking asswipe ROVE?


Bush pushed up the nomination by nearly a month in order to take the focus off of TRAITORGATE. I personally think we should fight the Roberts nomination, but not in a way that distracts the media from covering Rove's, Cheney's and Libby's and Bush's TREASON!


What do YOU want the MSM to focus on? (Can't be both)


Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:10 PM
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1. anyone want to explain their choices, be my guest...(nt)
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:12 PM
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2. Its easy
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 06:13 PM by brettdale
Roberts wont bring down Bush.
Rove could bring down Bush.
DSM could bring down Bush.
Torture Photos will be harmeful to Bush
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:13 PM
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3. What if the Rove thing was timed to be a bigger deal?
In the long term, the supreme court is more important? What if the Rove story is a diversion?
:tinfoilhat:
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evil eggplant Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:18 PM
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4. why not both?
Personally, I think SCOTUS is more important. This guy is 50 years old. He will be on the bench long after I am dust.

But why choose? Run both stories.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:20 PM
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5. Yes, both
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:38 PM
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7. no.
If the american public is led to vote for him last time, it shows that too many serious issues prevent any of them from bubbling to a head.
Iraq is quagmir-ing.
The economy is mud-erating
The Rove issue is accelerating
This Scotus issue is not worth fighting about. Rehnquist will retire in a few months, or die soon. The NEXT choice will be the critical one. That is the one to filly-buster and defend against.

if Rove is on the ropes or gone, this White House will soon be precisely where the Clinton White House was just before they brought in David Gergen. WIthout his steady hand approach, without a quiet pro doing the public portrayal, the Clinton White House looked like it was at war with itself. Now, I don't trust Gergen or his personal politics much, but the Clinton White House was noticeably more professional and less a story in itself after he came. I think he allowed the true talent of Bill to come out.

What amazed me is how much Bill Clinton STILL accomplished, even though the GOP did everything in its power to destroy him. Truly amazing. Even Papa Bush recognizes that man for his talent and abilities.

That is why we go after the true snake, the evil brain, the Rove. Cut its proverbial heart out before this administration does even more damage to our country. It would be a mercy killing, politically speaking.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:46 PM
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9. because the media is incapable of focusing on two things at the same
time.

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:28 PM
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6. All Of The Above! I Can Fit In DSM And Several Other Issues Too.
This poll is predicated on Rovian manipulation of the media.

It is not either or. Fight them on all fronts!
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:48 PM
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10. I don't think the media can do more than one thing at a time.
used to be all jacko all the time,

then aruba...

now, Rove..

what next?
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:39 PM
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8. This is not an either/or situation
As Americans we are intelligent enough to walk and chew gum at the same time! We don't have to choose!
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:48 PM
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11. Americans are, but the media isn't (nt)
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:33 PM
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20. Very unfortunate, but you are right!
And that really disgusts me! I truly agree with Randy Rhodes that there needs to be a very high standard for what qualifies as news, and if a particular organization doesn't meet that, then they shouldn't be allowed to call themselves the news.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:49 PM
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12. Why are you making this an either/or decision?
Why? You stir my suspicions by doing that.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:10 PM
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13. For the MSM it is an either/or decision. We know because of their
past performance that they can only focus on one story at a time...all the time.

Do you disagree?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:13 PM
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14. Are you suggesting that WE are at the mercy of the MSM?
I'm not sure where you're coming from. :shrug:
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:51 PM
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17. No, but the Rove/Traitorgate story is...and I'd like to see more people
focused on that, since I believe it could destroy the Bushies completely.

There's no way the ROberts scotus story could do that.

I want those bastards gone, and now's a critical time in the story, as proven by the Bushies moving up in time, the Roberts nomination.
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:46 PM
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16. I'd agree that the MSM only focused on one story at a time.
I'd say most of us here on these boards can focus on more than one story at a time.

I'd also say most americans could focus on more than one story, but don't have the time or resources to go beyond the MSM, so they are stuck with the "story de jour".

So, to me, the issue that will come forth from the mainstream media is either:

a) Those dem's whining about another justice appointment.
b) Karl Rove is a treasonist bastard.

And this is infuriating to me, because politically the justice appointment is so much more important, but easier for the MSM to spin.

The only possibility some actual truth telling seems to be option b).

To say I'm frustrated is an understatement.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:15 PM
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19. I agree with you. (nt)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:15 PM
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15. BOTH...I've sent letters on BOTH Today. It's really rather easy to do.
Thanks.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:14 PM
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18. I agree it's easy for us to focus on 2 stories or 20 stories...but I'm
saying the MSM can't do more than one thing at a time. The MSM has proven over and over again it's got a one track mind. So knowing that, I want the MSM to focus on Traitorgate and see about exposing the Bush crime cartel, and putting them in prison where they belong.

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:01 PM
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21. They can if we force them.
:hi: I want my daughter's decisions to be her own.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:22 AM
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22. I want the same thing as you! (nt)
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:00 PM
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23. I think this poll shows what we should be working hard to keep the focus
on.

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:26 PM
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25. I don't...I think it shows how willing we are to now turn our backs on
women. :hi:
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:47 PM
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26. never. none of us would ever do a thing. This poll isn't about what
fight we (as in, DU) should take up, but rather, which story we should keep the ADHD media focused on.

We can fight the Roberts nomination tooth and nail, you and I.

In the end, we'll have stood up for the rights of every woman in the country.

We can also make sure the Rove/Traitorgate story is front and center in every newspaper, blog, and on every TV and radio program.

In the end, this is the story that could bring down the Bushies once and for all...which would be the best thing, not just for the women, but for the whole freakin' world.

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:10 PM
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29. We should pound the media on this. It's more important to me than Rove.
And yes we have turned our backs on the women of this nation.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:13 PM
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30. self delete.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 09:16 PM by goodboy
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:23 PM
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32. You do realize that Bush will probably get to nominate another
associate justice before his term is up, don't you?

To me, it makes more sense to push the Treason that the Bushies are guilty of, because it presents a real possibility of their removal from office. If Bush is forced to resign, or is impeached, he'll never be able to nominate another associate justice...in addition, these pukes in the house and senate are coming up for re-election in 2006. They're in big trouble for what they've done, including the schiavo debacle.


Getting rid of Bush and his evil minions is the best way to protect women's rights.


I respectfully disagree that the media should be focusing on the Roberts nomination right now. It doesn't make much sense to me politically, simply because that's exactly what the Bushies want us to do. That's why they moved up the nomination by more than a month---to take the media's (and the citizenry's) focus off of the treason that the administration is guilty of.

If we take the bait, Roberts could still be approved, and we could lose our best chance of removing those horrible criminals from office, and thus doing further damage to not only women's rights, but the future and safety of the whole world.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 10:03 AM
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37. You do realize that this guy is worse than the media is letting on?
:shrug: Wife a major pro-lifer? Two years as a judge? Has said he disagrees with Roe V. Wade? Sorry, no thanks...no sway here.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:04 PM
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24. Rove
I think presently and in the near future, the Rove story has more immediate impact, the link with DSM is evidence that Shrub and CO. did many, many illegal things which could lead to a possible indictment and impeachment.

Roberts impact, which is serious if he's approved, will not likely effect things for some time.
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Reynardine Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:55 PM
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27. Take out Rove, get Roberts as a bonus.
If the public becomes convinced that Rove committed treason for Bush's benefit, the public will turn on him entirely. Including his SCOTUS nomination.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:56 PM
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28. I kind of suspect the media would prefer Rove, too
Boring senate hearings a month a way, or big juicy scandal right now?
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:17 PM
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31. Rove
Burn, Karl, burn! :evilgrin: :nuke:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:09 AM
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33. I don't understand why they can't handle both
If they can handle both the missing white chick in Aruba and the Cruise/Sheilds brou-ha-ha then why can't they handle both Rove and Roberts? There is more than one page to a magazine and newspaper.

I realize they've become wussies lately but let's expect more from them.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:24 AM
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34. ChumP is in the water...
Go after Rove now, and then Roberts at the appropriate time.

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:43 AM
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35. Very wise advice, SwampRat! (nt)
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:53 AM
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36. Both or Bust, we have to stop this Appeasement policy, in reference to *.*
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 08:55 AM by orpupilofnature57
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