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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:32 PM
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The 90s, remember those years when the US had a president.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times ... well at least it was a time of hope. We entered into the 90s coming out of 12 years of what, up to then, I considered the worst presidents ever. I didn't really like Clinton at first. I thought he was too much of a politician. His refusal to consider election reform to me meant he had some deep pocket donors. After Clinton won the Democratic primary, I supported this crazy little man that talked about NAFTA and giant sucking sound - was he ever right. But Clinton won and by comparison to Reagan and Bush he was an excellent President. Then I noticed the leftover yuppie greedy types starting to listen to a blowhard on radio. I passed it off as a dieing breed, a remnant of the poisoned 80s climate. Right after that there started popping up all these pseudo scandals around Clinton. It was still a time of hope though. All of the scandals appeared to be last throws of a dieing bread of Gecko types trying to hold on to lost dreams of being powerful and pooping on the little people.

Clinton was far from perfect, but he was on basically on the side of good. It was a time I had hope it would all work out. Then came a blue dress and the meaning of 'is'. It was then I knew for sure our media was corrupted. Hope began to fade. We had Newt declaring America wanted his stupid contract on it and no one questioning. We had Clinton trying to stop OSB and being blamed for trying to divert attention from his fabricated scandals. Things continued to look bleaker. Then there was the stealing of the 2000 election. I remember sitting in my apartment when FL (the state I lived in at the time) was called for Gore, and that smirking jerk of a man Bush came on and said "Don't be so rash, my brother promised me Florida". That started what has become the darkest period in my life.

Since then every day I have felt more control go to the fascist. I see less and less how we are going to get out of this. Even if we get rid of Bush and his whole admin, there is still the corporate structure that made all this happen. Yes we have to fight, yes we have to remain vigilant. But we can't take forever, this is consuming me. I want to do all I can to set our world back on the right path. A path of hope, if not true morals. A path with a heart, where freedom is more than a buzzword. But time is not on our side. The longer this darkness persist the more liberties we loose. And the drive to fight the darkness has to be squelched and turns to something horrible inside each of us or erupts into something violent. And unfortunately our plan for a great world depends on us being able to overthrow an already established corporate aristocracy, that temps new people into its ranks every day.

I now am not only frustrated, I feel useless. I send emails. I send letters, make phone calls. But that doesn't do much. And all we are able to do is slightly deflect one trickle of the river of loss of freedoms. I have two conflicting feelings at the moment. One to run somewhere isolated, set up a farm and drop out of society, the other to stand and fight harder - if only I knew a productive way. They have the government, they have the media, they have most of the big businesses. How do we get through that? Do you think there is a chance we can ever have fair elections again? There has to be some Achilles' heal though. Someone inside that smells their own stench. They are not really that smart. They are the scared little kids that wanted to hide their fear of the world by controlling it. But they are smart enough to keep us distracted with one hand while the other is getting ready to punch us. Can we win this? Or should I find a nice farm in the mountains?
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:34 PM
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1. Be calm---I've been around since the 30's---Lots of ups and downs.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:40 PM
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2. No offense but it seems like just downs and more downs...
After seeing how other countries operate it just reinforces just how dead set we are in being back-asswards.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:48 PM
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6. I thought the Nixon thing was the end of us,but things turned around.
I have to believe things will turn around again.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:06 PM
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8. I've been around since the 40s
This is far, far worse than the Nixon era. It was only ONE war back then. Now? Who knows how many countries this administration will invade in the "war" on terror, if we let them.

Then there is the scraping of all social gains made in the last 75 or so years. Bush wants to end EVERYTHING. I don't remember Nixon ever trying to put religion into every aspect of daily life or basing all his policy on it.

No, I have never seen anything this extreme in my life time. Looks to me that "we" now have more in common with the Taliban than most are willing to admit.


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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 07:10 PM
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9. What exactly has turned around in the last 30 years? nt
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:41 PM
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3. there's no coming back from this
I won't live to see the end of it. I won't have longevity comparable to yours.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:46 PM
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4. Sure you will---cheer up.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:53 PM
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7. there are health conditions behind this
Even if BFEE doesn't execute me for being "insufficiently pro-war" I'm not going to make it another 20 years (could be less depending).
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:48 PM
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5. Patience grasshopper
In 1964 when LBJ creamed Goldwater, Democrats swept the nation. The discussion in the media then was whether the Republican Party was dead. Things were bleak for them, with no apparent hope, no way out. Things can change overnight.

yesterday a child came out to wander
caught a dragonfly inside a jar
fearful when the sky was full of thunder
and fearful at the falling of a star

and the seasons they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down
we're captive on the carousel of time
we can't return we can only look
behind from where we came
and go round and round and round in the circle game


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