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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:47 PM
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Sudden thought about right wing "Rovegate" spin...
Has anybody heard right wing loonies announce "Joe Wilson is a liar. Dick Cheney didn't send him, like he claimed."?

Besides being a lie in itself, it raises interesting questions....So Cheney didn't CARE that a fake memo was bolstering the case for war? He didn't want to know that an obvious and glaring fraud WAS a fraud before he pushed for war? Why the hell not?
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  - Yes, i just saw those comments on a thread from a righty. They really are  caligirl   Jul-20-05 01:49 PM   #1 
  - It's as if they don't even care if lies are plausible anymore...  MrBenchley   Jul-20-05 01:54 PM   #2 
  - Lying the country into war?  spooked911   Jul-20-05 01:57 PM   #3 
  - There's no reason to "retaliate" against Wilson  MrBenchley   Jul-20-05 02:01 PM   #4 
     - Speaking of forgeries  Canuckistanian   Jul-20-05 02:06 PM   #5 
        - Remember....  MrBenchley   Jul-20-05 02:11 PM   #6 
  - It always comes back to "I don't care if they were forged.  ComerPerro   Jul-20-05 02:13 PM   #7 
  - Strange, isn't it?  MrBenchley   Jul-20-05 02:37 PM   #9 
  - The fake memos came out of Italy...  dogday   Jul-20-05 02:18 PM   #8 
     - And they were REALLY fake...  MrBenchley   Jul-20-05 02:39 PM   #10 
        - Read my post, Cheney asked the CIA to look into it  dogday   Jul-20-05 03:05 PM   #11 
           - I know what the fact is...  MrBenchley   Jul-20-05 03:16 PM   #12 
              - oops, so sorry, my bad  dogday   Jul-20-05 03:18 PM   #13 
                 - That's okay...love the artwork....  MrBenchley   Jul-20-05 04:10 PM   #14 
 
caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:49 PM
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1. Yes, i just saw those comments on a thread from a righty. They really are
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 01:51 PM by caligirl
pathetically scared.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:54 PM
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2. It's as if they don't even care if lies are plausible anymore...
I reported on what I heard over squawk radio yesterday....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:57 PM
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3. Lying the country into war?
Don't you know? EVERY president does it.
:sarcasm:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:01 PM
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4. There's no reason to "retaliate" against Wilson
except among those who spent time and effort trying to create the forgery....
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:06 PM
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5. Speaking of forgeries
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 02:06 PM by Canuckistanian
Someone made the point that 60 minutes tried to do a story on the Niger document and the WH kicked and screamed so much that CBS spiked the story.

Yet, when they tried to do the story about the TANG document, there was silence from the WH.

Just one of those things that make you go "hmmmmm".
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:11 PM
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6. Remember....
It hasn't even been proved that the TANG document IS a forgery....just that it can't be authenticated beyond a reasonable doubt.

And for all the right wing liying, Chimpy still deserted rather than pee in a cup as he was ordered to...
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:13 PM
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7. It always comes back to "I don't care if they were forged.
We shouldn't have known they were forged documents in the first place".

And somehow that makes it all ok.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:37 PM
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9. Strange, isn't it?
And of course, the young Republican blowhards loudly claiming that it doesn't matter why we're at war are the ones reluctant to actually go themselves...
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:18 PM
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8. The fake memos came out of Italy...
Cheney ordered the CIA to investigate Saddam connection to Niger. The CIA in turn asked VP if she thought her husband would be interested because of his expertise in this area.

Joe Wilson came back, filed his report with the CIA, what the CIA did with the report,- whether they sent it to Cheney or not is unknown. Those 16 famous words were said and CIA Tenet ends up apologizing for the screw-up
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:39 PM
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10. And they were REALLY fake...
and filled with errors...

So why didn't Cheney WANT to know? Why WASN'T he demanding that Wilson go check it out?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:05 PM
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11. Read my post, Cheney asked the CIA to look into it
the CIA sent Joe Wilson
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:16 PM
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12. I know what the fact is...
I'm just referring to the idiotic right wing spin.....and suggesting an effective counter.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:18 PM
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13. oops, so sorry, my bad
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:10 PM
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14. That's okay...love the artwork....
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