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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:53 AM
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"A good reason to be a virgin..."
KAMPALA (Reuters) - A Ugandan member of parliament has pledged to reward girls for their chastity by paying their university fees if they are virgins when they leave school, a local newspaper said Wednesday.

Bbaale County MP Sulaiman Madada said any girl in his district who wanted to take part in the scheme aimed at promoting girls' education would be given a gynecological examination by health workers to check they were virgins.

"The criterion is that a student must be a virgin and from Kayunga district," he told the state-owned New Vision.

The MP did not extend his offer to young men.

He urged pupils to manage their lives responsibly, and called on parents to explain the threats from HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases.

"Our children should be told the risks they face if involved in early and unprotected sex," Madada said.

Uganda was once seen as the epicenter of the global HIV epidemic, but a government education campaign has pushed down infection rates to around six percent from as high as 30 percent in some areas in the early 1990s.

Kayunga in central Uganda is home about 300,000 people, and researchers say it has one of the country's worst AIDS rates, with more than 80 percent of families losing at least one member to the disease.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:54 AM
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1. What do they do, check hymens?
n/t
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:54 AM
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2. Sounds like it
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:55 AM
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3. And when you get your degree.... we will cook you in a stew and eat you!!!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:56 AM
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4. Sucks for the guys. Will they get any kind of similar offer?
I mean, I know its near impossible to verify if a guy is a version, this just seems unfair.

Additionally, I don't know much about this, but is there any way a test could be wrong. What I'm saying: is there any way someone would be tested and it would indicate that she weren't a virgin, even if she was?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:57 AM
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7. Says right in the article girls only. And yes, a girl's hymen
can break without actually being involved in sexual conduct. Horseback riding and tampons are two ways for it to occur, though i do not know how prevalent either are in that area.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:40 PM
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19. I'm thinking that it would really suck to remain a virgin
and then find that they won't honor their end because your hymen was broken in some other way.
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Kilroy003 Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:05 PM
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13. Don't forget that it is possible to have a
hymen surgically reattached.

Though, maybe not as easily there as it is elsewhere.

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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:56 AM
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stupidest fucking idea i ever heard of
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 11:59 AM by tk2kewl
it's been shown that the so-called abstinence crowd in the US engages in sex acts of every imaginable kind besides vaginal intercourse and thinks they are still virgins. hell, they won't get pregnant, but they're still exposed to every STD


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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:56 AM
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5. Backassward patriarchal mentality.
:nuke:
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:57 AM
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6. Aren't a lot of these African female AIDS patients...
victims of rape/violence? Remaining a virgin doesn't help them.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:57 AM
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8. So true
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:04 PM
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12. Yes,
Many of them would probably like to remain virgins to be able to use this option but that option is taken from them. Many would most likely like the opportunity to remain virgins for other reasons and that is also taken from them. But if successful to then have to prove they are virgins? That sounds just really really creepy. I don't like this at all and I don't think it will help anything.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:02 PM
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10. Well, if sex were just about being pretty...
everybody would be "pretty" as if that is anything but subjective.
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48pan Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:09 PM
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14. We've screw up natural selection...
by giving free food to the stupid. In the developed world, the stupid have been breeding at a high rate and their kids have survived. In Uganda, that isn't true, so my thesis should be correct.

If you want a fun read, try a short story named, "The Marching Morons" by CM Cornbluth. It takes the deevolution theory to the extreme.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:24 PM
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17. This does remind me of George Carlin's great quote....
"have you ever noticed that the people who are most strongly opposed to abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?"
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48pan Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:53 PM
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21. It's only funny because it has some truth to it.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:03 PM
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11. This is so utterly mysogenistic, pig-like and WRONG in so
many ways, I don't even know where to begin.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:18 PM
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15. Why are people so frightened by female sexuality?
It's just plain crazy.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:23 PM
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16. Because it's powerful...
I mean, you can have babies, it actually takes some effort for you to have an orgasm, etc.

Oh, we could only wish that even the fundie women would withhold sex (although they probably do anyway) then see how fast attitudes would change!!!
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:29 PM
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18. So if a girl uses non-vaginal insertion techniques to have sex...
I don't need to get graphic, but there are other ways to achieve a means, then she wins a scholarship. This isn't too unlike some dirty gossip about beauty pageants.

Vaginal Virginity = Total virginity! Methinks not.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:40 PM
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20. Good point...
and vaginal intercourse isn't the only way to contract AIDS...it's amazing how this idea becomes more idiotic by the minute!
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