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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:03 AM
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"We the People" have screwed the pooch.
The People of this once great nation have gone to sleep and turned over the government to the Corporations. It is too late now for those of us who are paying attention to turn the tide. Forgive me this morning for being gloomy, but it is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better, IMHO.

We don't have the White House. We don't have the House or the Senate. We are about to lose fairness in the Courts. We lost the Media's honesty sometime back. We don't even have Entertainment! This drip, drip, drip, we speak of has been dripping against us for about thirty years and the water is now over our heads.

The majority of the electorate are not paying attention about the Environment. They don't know the real sitch on the jobs in this country. They just want to be left alone to work their three or four jobs to try and buy that Hummer or powerboat because the teevee tells them they have to have them. By the time they connect the hideous sores on their bodies to the Corporate destruction of the environment it will be too late. One reason is that the Dems are almost as in the pockets of Big Business and the Military as the Right Wingers.

Our position as Progressive Activists is the saddest on Earth. We KNOW what is going on but, like Cassandra, no one believes us and we are going to have to sit and watch the slow descent into the abyss.


Sorry I have to go for now. I can't be on line to carry on this thread. I hope more than one or two comment but I doubt it. We must talk about Mr. Roberts or Mr. Rove. Too late.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:05 AM
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1. Sad but true.
Hell is here.

Sue
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:15 AM
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2. I think there is a little hope in people waking up. Because of the
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 08:15 AM by higher class
arrogant vileness of the crimes against our people by this regime and their supporters (the blind religious, the bigots, the pompous supremacists, and the stockholders of destructive and participating corporations), more sleepers are waking up. They may ruin themselves before it's too late. By too late, I mean the complete takeover of our thoughts, movements, bodies, and souls with imposed pseudo religions and laws.

They have a chance if we don't get to vote honestly and if we don't wake up more people. There are so many people in this country who have a strong sense of justice and responsibility and they want opportunity and progress in all areas our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:16 AM
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3. Don't you watch the commericals? "I'd like to teach the world to sing ..."
See? Coca-cola is obviously liberal, humane, and ethical ... after all, isn't that what the song means? Haven't you noticed how the coal industry has made our air cleaner? (We have to believe it - they tell us so.) Haven't you seen how the oil industry creates shelters for the fishes, a pristine wilderness, and peace for all mankind? (We have to believe it - they tell us so.)

Hail the corporations, our masters, from whom all benefits flow!!

:sarcasm: (do I really have to say so?)
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Zorbuddha Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:32 PM
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17. Yeah, well Miller Lite really does have more taste than Bud Lite.
no...No...NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:19 AM
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4. I remember similiar defeat back in '73 and '88. Things will turn around
We just have to keep fighting -- it never ends, unless we give up. :kick: :dunce: :+
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:35 AM
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10. Absolutely....I'm not going anywhere.
And the momentum is building. We've been hamstrung as a nation that was way too evenly polarized. The bad news is that the evildoer's have control now. The good news is that our numbers are growing and will continue to grow as they shed more and more moderates who start to finally "get it".

When the pendulum swings, and it will, we can harness the collective anger into driving a progressive agenda that may have taken much longer to get done.

The fun and games are just beginning.....
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:21 AM
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12. Never before has any Prez betrayed his base as arrogantly as when
BushCo turned on the intelligence community and attempted to intimidate and scapegoat it. I'm sure career agents and officers steam like lobsters in a pot everytime they hear the term, "Intelligence Failure" used to excuse the White House for the negligence and policy errors that caused the 9/11 and the Iraq disasters.

They, and the uniformed military that have shed real blood for BushCo's travesties, won't let the bastard politicians get away with it.
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gman16 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:26 AM
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5. Game over
when the Neocons put a bullet in my head as they try to cart me off to a detention center. Until then, we owe it to this country to fight on.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:33 AM
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9. Right on, gman16!
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:12 PM
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14. I don't say that "we" roll over! Your courage is admirable, but
what I say is that "we" here at DU are the proverbial choir. We come here and fulminate and speak the truth. We must fight on but we need to concede that because of the Neocons patience and perfidy over the last few years that we are in the small minority. I believe that all will swing back to the left. The question is at what price? Will it be in two years? Twenty? We must start attacking the most hurtful Corporate policies while there is still time. Many who voted for Bush will agree with us on these issues. They do now. They are held in thrall by the RW waving the issues of "guns, gays, and baby killing". Overcoming this development is the Democratic Challenge. This can only be done after we purge the party of Corporate Shills and somehow balance the Corporate Media.

I think we are in for a long fight, indeed. I cannot see in the demeanor of our current misadministration the willingness to EVER turn power back to Moderates, much less Progressives. Time will tell and what happens will be stranger than any of us can predict.
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gman16 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:26 AM
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6. Game over
when the Neocons put a bullet in my head as they try to cart me off to a detention center. Until then, we owe it to this country to fight on.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:28 AM
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7. Correct on every count, theo.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 08:32 AM
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8. Great post, especially
"One reason is that the Dems are almost as in the pockets of Big Business and the Military as the Right Wingers. "

I think the Democrats are slightly less objectionable than the Republicans, and since Republicans control Congress we need a Democratic president.

But no question, BOTH major parties belong to big business, and don't care about the average middle and lower-class Americans.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:58 AM
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11. The American constitution is pro big business and antidemocratic
The real reason for the Boston Tea party was so that John Hancock didn't have to compete with cheaper British tea.
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Johnny_GRMI Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:26 AM
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13. This is the time to fight
I see hope, but things will get much worse before they get better. It'll take a crisis to wake people up. Remember this group in charge does no Represent the Majority of Americans. Everything they have done to harm this country can be fixed save for maybe the Environment.

It will take real civil unrest to change anything.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:16 PM
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This is true and there have been many crimes against humanity
and against nature in the name of Capitalism. I believe our current brand of Maglignant Capitalism puts it in the shade, however. The invention of the Corporation is what has done us in, IMHO, and the abuses that have come from that invention.

Basically, we humans are greedy and selfish and we tend to do bad things. Our system needs altering so that dangerous people such as those now in charge of our Nation cannot be in control of the greatest military machine on the planet. The Constitution will be changed but how many will have to pay with their lives? The clock is ticking.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:18 AM
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19. John Hancock was a tea merchant?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:16 PM
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15. What are you saying about "Entertainment?" nt
nt
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:20 PM
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16. For the most part, our entertainment encourages a materialistic lifestyle
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 12:25 PM by theophilus
and doesn't question our Corporate driven society. This is my opinion. I realize that some voices in entertainment are "right on" the truth, but just think of what the majority of the culture spends its time with. I am not commenting on so called morals, just the consumerist nature of the entertainment voice ---- all the bling, etc.

Edited for silly spelling.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:47 PM
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18. entertainment is big business
Look at the hype about The Potter Books. OK so they are a relatively harmless fad, but letting kids become so obsessed about getting their hands on a copy? Good budding consumer training going on there. There are far more insidious examples. But the Potter craze show how easily the urge to consume can be whipped up to a frenzy when parents get on the bandwagon.
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