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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:36 PM
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Yeah, keep fighting, that's perfect
Look, both the "Don't forget the DSM and Rove" people and the "Fight Roberts" people are on the same side ultimately. One side is not being short-sighted, just picking their fight. The other side is not talking capitulation, just picking THEIR fight.

So, Team Roberts, you go THAT way.

And Team DSM/Rove, YOU go THAT way.

Don't let Bush Co. divide us. Pick your fights and have at it. But for fuck's sake, don't fight EACH OTHER! What a waste of energy.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:38 PM
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1. Excellent post - and recommended.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:39 PM
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2. We cannot afford to fight each other
There's plenty of legitimate crap to fight.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:42 PM
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3. Why can't we just keep hitting them with ALL of it? Like a
pitching machine that got stuck? Just keep throwing the balls and hitting them so much that they are overwhelmed and nuts?
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Stephist Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:43 PM
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4. Thank You For Posting This!
:headbang: The in fighting here tonight is sad.
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:43 PM
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5. Sanity emerges.
Thanks for the post - it was needed. We are all on the same side...

:yourock:

Freepers excepted, of coarse. (My, there seems to be a whole nest of the little crawlies here tonight.)
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:43 PM
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6. Finally, a uniter not a divider...
I completely agree. Molly Ivins once said "trying to organize democrats is like trying to herd cats", and while I believe this is essentially true, I also think we have the ability to disagree but still maintain our foucus on a common goal. At least we better hope we do if we want to have any hope of defeating the well oiled repuke attack machine! :kick:
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:44 PM
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7. The stakes are too big for us to become divided
we must stand together or fall apart.

Now, there is an argument to be made for not wasting money and time on some issues over others. However, I will let others make it. Whatever Du'ers decide to do, it will not change the fact that we are one family
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:44 PM
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8. WAIT, I'm on Both Teams!
I need to CLONE myself...!

(thanks for the post... I was really getting upset at the attitudes tonight)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:02 AM
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13. Okay, you're on Team Multi-Task
Both/and, baby.

Yeah, me too. Had me in tears, it did. Just what Bush/Rove wanted too.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:45 PM
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9. here here, or hear hear
yup
i agree
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:46 PM
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10. I'm So Happy I found DU: Home of True Democracy & Reality-Based Folks
Thanks "LittleClarkie" for that kindly reminder. As Democrats, your post points out just what we're really all about and that is groups of so many various Americans from even more individual walks-of-life. And yes, we debate, we argue, we disagree but we're united just the same, regardless.

:pals:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:46 PM
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11. This is the logic and reason that gets lost here sometimes
People pick one position and are offended by people who take another position - even if both positions are strong liberal/Democratic postions. I agree with you - we're going to have to share the General Discussion board amongst both groups. I think we can do it.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:52 PM
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12. No more compromises with fascists!
... no matter which way you go, there will be a fascist waiting to kill you.

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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:03 AM
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14. Why are people acting like this is genius?
10 votes for Greatest? This is pure common sense rephrased from a million posts here tonight.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:06 AM
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15. Not genius
But if it's common sense (which ain't so common) then it's good to be on the greatest page where people will see it.

Because even if it's been posted a million times tonight, several of us ain't gettin' the message.

Btw, I didn't rephrase nuthin'. Who do you think I am, Biden? I couldn't stand to sift through all the crap on the board tonight. So me and a million other folks came up with the same idea, independant-like. :D
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:07 AM
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:09 AM
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17. I can multi-task
Can I be on both teams?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:11 AM
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19. You get your own team. Team Multi-task.
The both/and-ers welcome you.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:25 AM
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26. I don't believe I'm alone
I can't be, we're able to address more than one issue at a time. I know we are. WE are not mindless sheep driven by the whim of the POTUS. We are more, so much more than that.

I don't care who welcomes me or who doesn't. This is much larger than that.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:56 AM
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36. Oh I didn't mean to imply you were alone
Team Multitask has many members.

That's just what I'm calling anyone who says "What if I wanna do both?"

Indeed you are not alone.
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:10 AM
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18. Well said. n/t
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:12 AM
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20. Thank YOU. You said better than I did.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:15 AM
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21. Why do we have to be on one team or the other?
We're all DUers, right? :shrug:

If some bad-guy arse needs to be kicked, let's kick it. Just because there are multiple arses to be kicked doesn't mean we can't handle it, it just means we get a little busier. If Roberts is a bad egg it won't take our focus off of Rove or DSM. We'll just keep working, albeit a bit harder.

We're DUers. We can handle it. :patriot:
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:19 AM
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22. We don't. But some people only feel passionately about one fight.
And I think the OP's point is that those people can lead their fight of choice. Both fights are VERY important for the here & now and our future.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:45 AM
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35. Good point
As was the OPs point that there is no need for fights amongst each other.

Let's save our strength for fighting Rethugs! :kick:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:22 AM
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24. Ah, another volunteer for "Team Multi-task"
Indeed, we surely can handle mulitiple asskicking. Let's surprise the Bush bastards and come at them with a barrage! Blitzkreig!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:21 AM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:23 AM
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25. Considering alot of us are activists
and this is a place where we organize those activities, then I'd say yes, we need to not be fighting. It does indeed matter.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:28 AM
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27. Here we galvanize our beliefs
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 12:29 AM by Lone_Star_Dem
What each person does after that is personal, but that's the point isn't it, this is personal. It's all about who we are and what we stand for in this life.

If you're going to talk the talk, then walk the walk, as they say.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:44 AM
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31. great sig.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:51 AM
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34. Thank you... :) n/t
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:31 AM
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28. do your frequent posts tonight really matter? n/t
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:33 AM
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29. Nah, tens of thousands of people holding
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 12:33 AM by Tommymac
a virtual Town Hall meeting, intelligently and passionately discussing issues, educating each other, practicing REAL debate, going out to the real world and passing this information on to a few friends, educating them, who in turn educate others....nah, nothing we do here really matters.

You are right, we should all turn off our computers, tear down the internets, turn on the MSM and be good little sheeple. Thanks for the enlightenment.

:sarcasm:
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:45 AM
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32. damn... I always miss the action.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:43 AM
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30. fight 'em all...
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:48 AM
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33. A solitary issue does not decide the quality of all our lives.
We want to encourage involvement in all our issues and fighting amongst ourselves works against that. I gleefully greet news that shows the Repugs infighting over Iraq, Social Security, the Federal Deficit or Roe vs Wade (in no particular order). We would do well to realize that those that aren't actively supporting an issue, are probably watching our backs on other issues. Thanks LittleClarkie. :applause:
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:56 AM
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37. Absolutely...we need to discuss and debate
in a rational manner....not fight each other. Reasoned debate is healthy. Infighting is not.

There are enough of us here to press on all fronts. Each of us is passionate about one issue or another. We each need to work to our strength and passion.


Our diversity, our stubborn cantankerous belief that every individual is precious and has a voice that should be heard defines us as liberals/progresives/Democrats...and our unity in spite of this diversity is our greatest strength.
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