YOU are the sheep! YOU allow this administration to drive your cart.

[Just Me]

YOU allow the corporacratic, government-driven media to manipulate you. You call others "sheeple". Shameful.

You give up your power to choose priorities, obviously, depending on how the BushCO/neoCON regime decides to DRIVE you. I am sad to have witnessed this fact over time. While you call others "sheeple", you always give up your power to take down a harmful regime because they KNOW how to push your buttons and manipulate you. They continue to manipulate and defraud and abuse and fuck you.

They are laughing at how you are SOOOOOO easy. I'm pissed but can only try to point out how these amoral pricks have perfected distracting you with emotional abuse (better than the Hitler regime,...they HIT you with your passion to distract you from their exploitation) and they are reeling you in,...once, again,...to your detriment and their profit. I HATE those fuckers for mastering exploitation of you!!! :grr:

While YOU could be FOCUSED on revealing the treason committed by that regime which is INTENTIONALLY manipulating/abusing you,...you are being manipulated to volunteer as a victim to their exploitation.

STOP IT!!!!! YOU ARE AWAKE NOW!!!! JUST SAY "NO" TO THE EXPLOITATION OF YOUR ABUSERS!!!! DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM YOUR ABUSERS!!!! USE YOUR VOICE AND DEMAND THE RULE OF LAW AGAINST THEM, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

[punpirate]

1. Well, thank you...

... that was very instructive. :shrug:

[fooj]

2. Exactly. An exteme REACTION is just what they want.

We've got the WH on the ropes right now. When have they ever "adjusted" their game plan? They've done this to obviously deflect attention from what has those vile bastards shitting themselves. Technically, the SC won't even be up for debate for 5 weeks...wouldn't it be nice to continue the OFFENSIVE pressure and let them REMAIN on the DEFENSIVE for a change. Don't you think that would blow Rove's mind? Realistically, I never believed that he'd pick anyone moderate. Especially now. I have a big enough problem with this government being under investigation (to this degree) and still having the authority to choose a SC Justice. Those bastards OBVIOUSLY don't favor our Constitution and laws. They are a bunch of crooks.

So, I say we just take the announcement in stride and hit them hard with the evidence at hand. If we react like they expect us to react then we've given them the power again. We'll be walking right into their trap. Again. Am I making any sense?

Peace.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. The Dems had damnsure better react to Roberts, and strongly.

If they give him a pass as they did the 3 to the district court we're stuck with another Scalia.

[fooj]

9. I'm not saying NOT to react. Just react with common sense.

IMO, if we give them the reaction they are obviously waiting for-we lose our offensive momentum.

Peace.

[Just Me]

24. I'm just sayin',...we are in a powerful position of OFFENSE.

Let's assert our power over this tyranny without distraction. WE HAVE TO DO THAT!!!

We have to focus our energies against those who exploit us, for eachother. Otherwise, we choose to be powerless in the dictates of these bullies' abuse and exploitation.

FUCK THAT!!!

[Strelnikov_]

14. I Agree. It's Not 'Excuses' Not To Fight, It's Not Laying Down,

it's not about not having the energy to fight two battles.

It's about strategy.

The left can continue to let the Reich-Wing define the field of battle, or we parry, maneuver and turn their flank.

It isn't like this will shift the SC from left to right, they were already right. The big issue is RvW, the overturning of which will be the Reich-Wing's Waterloo.

We all knew RvW was threatened the minute the Chimp was re-elected. We all knew the kind of nominee he would pick. We cannot let this nomination become the only story out of Washington for the next 3 months.

Rights taken away can be reinstated. The first step is to throw the bums out, because these criminals are threatening a hell of a lot more than RvW.

[mondo joe]

3. When you talk down to us you remind me of Limbaugh and Coulter.

Thanks.

[Just Me]

10. Naw! I am definitely NOT Limbaugh or Coulter. I promise.

I am not in the business of exploiting people for money.

[mondo joe]

12. Funny - you seem to have the same disrespect.

We're asleep? We don't know what to focus on? We're too dumb to know better without you shouting at us from your elevation?

[Just Me]

17. I am not compensated for focusing our efforts against a tyranny,...

,...rather being manipulated by that tyranny's actions.

Get it?

No?

Okay.

So, what you are doing is accusing me of being "BAD" because I am a warrior against the manipulation and exploitation of this criminal administration? Is that it?

You are compelled to accuse me of being something other than what I am and what I intend.

Why?

[mondo joe]

18. You're a "warrior"? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's more Limbaugh-speak.

When you get on your perch and talk down to us, same as Limbaugh and Coulter, I take you as seriously as I take them. And I have as little use for what you say.

Thanks.

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[mondo joe]

30. Wait, first I was a sleeping sheep, now I'm a bully?

I haven't attacked your worth.

I said I have as little worth for you as I do any who are so disrespectful.

If your worth rests so much on my opinion, you are in trouble.

But in any event I suggest you try to find some greater respect for your fellows on DU and talk with us, not down at us.

[Lex]

31. Yeah, I don't get why this one gets a pass on the name-calling

to other DU'ers.

It seems to be a pattern.

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[Just Me]

37. Really.

:rofl:

You should post a poll: "How many times has Just Me gotten a pass on 'name-calling;"

:rofl:

[Lex]

38. Yes really.

I'm glad you find it so funny.

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[Lex]

42. I'm an "asshole" now, eh?

.
You're proving my point here.

To be honest, your opening post made little sense, but it was offensive in that it called fellow DU'ers sheep and guillible and easily manipulated.

[mondo joe]

43. Who on DU was the post directed to?

Who was the warrior talking down to?

[Just Me]

45. Did you assume it was directed at you?

If so,...why?

SEE this thread. Who was defensive? Who participated?

These things,...say a lot,...about ourselves.

Doncha' think? :hug:

Let's focus on taking care of eachother rather than being distracted by those who have proven to exploit us all. Yes?

[mondo joe]

46. No, I didn't think it was directed at me. I only noted that it was

disrespectful and rude to other DU posters.

How ironic that you call DUers sheep, indicate they are too stupid to know what to care about and thenn in this post say "let's focus on taking care of each other".

[Mairead]

27. Back in the '60s, many liberals reacted to strident calls for action with

some variation on 'I agree with your goals, but not with your methods; you're too shrill, too demanding; you talk down to us'.

This eventually prompted Phil Ochs to write 'Love Me, I'm A Liberal' (q.v.)

Saul Alinsky (Rules for Radicals)didn't think much of that kind of avoidance response either:

The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics used by the Have-Nots against the Haves,should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive--but real--allies of the Haves.

If you're seriously on the side of change, wouldn't it be better to look past style to content?

[Eric J in MN]

4. What are you talking about? nt

nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. So, by your estimation we should ignore everything but Rove?

We should follow type and rollover while Bush packs the SCOTUS. Ignore the slaughter in IRAQ and Afghanistan.

So we can accomplish what? Get Rove fired? Embarass Bush? Maybe?

I'm all for chasing Rove but, on the scale of importance, it's a mighty thin thread to hang your hopes on.

[fooj]

11. 5+ weeks until the SC nominee is even debated.

I've got a hunch that this entire Fitzgerald investigation is going to bring these rat bastards down. It's the closest we've come to exterminating these SOB's since they've been in power.

Peace.

[Zen Democrat]

21. For now, yes. Congress is going on vacation for 5 weeks.

During those 5 weeks we need the focus on ROVE and LIBBY and CHENEY.

The Senate won't take on this nomination until Fall. In the meantime, it's stupid to get up in arms about this planned diversion.

I'm not taking the bait!

[stevietheman]

32. But the Rove thread looks like...

it will unravel a big ball of yarn. We have to keep in mind that Rovegate is the tip of a potentially huge iceberg. On the other hand, the Roberts nomination, while critical to the nation, is not related to treason or lying the nation into war. It's a matter of priority that we keep the flame WHITE-HOT on Rovegate and MEDIUM-HIGH on Roberts.

[Just Me]

6. All those being HERDED into the Bush SCOTUS appointment,...

,...he appointed a corporacrat!

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Now, are you ready to FOCUS on priorities?

[lvx35]

8. tsk. tsk. tsk.

Good point, in demanding the rule of law over BuchCo. But a little on the spciy side, the message. See, I come from a more conservative background I can tell you that yelling, it could possibly work on some republicans, but near as I can tell, these democrats are different creatures. They don't seem to be too motivated by fear, or by yelling, or by anger at exploiters or whatever you said. These creatures are motivated mostly by a strange thing called love.

I find that appealling to it is one of the only ways to get them to do things! :shrug:

[Just Me]

15. We should ALL be spicy about truth and integrity.

THAT IS LOVE!!!!

Without truth and intregity, everything else is just, worthless,...completely worthless.

[lvx35]

19. hehehe. well said, well said! :) nt

[mdmc]

13. two legs bad

...

[realms]

16. Darkest before the Dawn

Here we are. The rock splitter hits the rock a hundred times but it gives way at last. I must say it, sing it, shout it. O.K. the supreme court. Don't judge me with a head full of untenable ideas. Jeezes said you will come to understand. Justice is...

Love Justice
Do mercy
Walk humbly before god

[Just Me]

20. Maybe Roe was decided wrongly is FLAMING!!! You, sheeple *LOL*.

Don't be manipulated. Don't be distracted from those who ARE your enemy.

[marions ghost]

22. nice rant

what's it about? :shrug:

[leesa]

23. Yada, yada, yada...so the so -superior "just me" has done...what?

[Jacobin]

25. If you remove your (choose appropriate private part here) from the wringer

And stop to think for a minute, the following will become obvious to you, which will not stop the anger, but may help with the denial, and thus begin the process of acceptance.

The whole reason to fight to keep Smirk out of a second term was the SCOTUS.

Guess what? We failed, or rather the right wing took it.

The inevitability of the current situation should have become quite obvious to most of us long long ago.

The person who sits in the WH gets to pick the nominee. (swallow hard). Yes. It is true. George Fucking Bush gets to choose the nominee. (swallow hard again). Yes. He is in the WH and he gets to choose the psychopath who will hold considerable sway on the court for perhaps decades. (swallow hard again)

this did not happen today. this did not happen yesterday. this happened last year (perhaps some of us were not looking....or chose to be in denial about it...or thought that a minority of senators could make it not reallllly true?) Sorry, think again.

The country allowed George fucking Bush to choose the next justice. the country allowed George fucking Bush to start a war.


While it may not be pleasant to consider the ramifications of these realities, it is i think helpful to deal with it...deal with the reality that it is going to happen.

They chose a stealth judge, one who could pass muster, one whose opinions are just clear enough to make the fundies smile to themselves, while he has plausible deniability to say that well he really hasn't made up his mind about these things.....

Yes, it has happened

[Lecky]

34. Thank you voice of reason!

I just hope other people will soon recover from their tantrums so they can start thinking clearly again.

What GWB did today he has every right, and that's EXACTLY WHY WE WANT DEMOCRATS TO WIN IN 08'!

[Just Me]

35. Let's try,...for a moment,...to remove our personal experiences.

Yes? And reach towards a unification of our hearts and inspirations.

WE ARE BEING EXPLOITED, AGAIN.

Maybe, that fact either escapes you or overwhelms you.

If we FAIL to oppose those who EXPLOIT US,...we ALL suffer.

[Lecky]

47. How exactly are we being exploited? Please do tell...

I see a lot of hysteria and knee-jerk reacting...

Nothing has even happened and everyone has gone bonkers it feels like.

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[Lecky]

Oh for fuck's sake

I refuse to act hysterical when I don't even know much about this guy. Bush was going to pick a conservative, this is no big surprise. It's entirely possible this guy could be fine...

I will continue to fight, I want democrats to win in 06'. I want a democrat president in 08' who is able to choose a SC judge as well.

Go in a blind rage if it makes you feel better...let me know how it works out.

[orpupilofnature57]

36. Fuck he could be fine , Shrub should have nothing but an approval

For his and kkkarls Inquisition, or better yet their Legacy, for fuck sake!

[Lecky]

48. What?

Now that is really reaching...

[donco6]

49. Hear, hear.

Jeez. How 'bout a Valium?

[Lex]

28. Aren't you precious?

.
What else do the little voices tell you?

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[Lex]

40. ?????

I guess I don't understand your points or "thingies" in your post.

I don't appear to be the only one on the thread having difficulty understanding what you're talking about either.

Just try to settle down and stop calling fellow DU'ers "sheeple" and easily manipulated.

[Just Me]

44. "YOU" are sheeple. *LOL* Note the DUers who KNOW they are NOT,....

,...sheeple,...

Do not apply. Yes?