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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:38 PM
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Should Hillary enter the race?






"I am absolutely ruling it out."

-- Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton

According to the latest Quinnipiac University poll, she gets 45% of the Democratic votes, higher than even Clark.

Is it N.O.W. or never? If Bush loses, 2008 is no longer an option.


More Bush Cartoons


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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:38 PM
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1. Freeper flame-bait
The Freepers love to rile their base with the "threat" of a Hillary run. Why do Rove's work?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:40 PM
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2. exactly...
everytime somebody mentions this, the RNC gets another million dollars. Sigh...
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-03 09:12 AM
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53. This thread IS Freeper flame bait
The writer does not deserve the benefit of your valued opinions.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:40 PM
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3. for the LAST time NO
she has said no, the democratic community has said no, the only ones who are pushing this are the damn republicans. NO.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:48 PM
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6. I didn't say IS she running ...
I asked, "Should she run?"

There's a big difference.

(I took grammer so I no what I'm talking about. Is Frazier running for senator? is not the same as Should Frazier run for senator? Were dealing with subfunctive particples here and the like.)

:P



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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 03:00 PM
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15. Should have taken spelling, too.
Grammer? ;)
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 03:01 PM
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16. grammer
:)
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 04:43 PM
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23. Sounds like quibbling to me.
*SHOULD* I ignore you?
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 05:15 PM
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25. Yes, please do
:)
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macandcheese Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:43 PM
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4. without a doubt
Clarke was brought in to stem the tide against Dean. Dean hates McCuallife, and wants him out. Furthermore, if Dean were to win, or Clarke for that matter, Hillary would have to wait 8 more years. Thats why she put the book our recently - testing the waters.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:46 PM
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5. Did she tell you that?
Next time you see her, tell her I said Hi.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 05:16 PM
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26. That's a quote
She's said it several times. If you want I can provide sauces.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:24 PM
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44. No thank you we don't need "sauces" for our news
We like it STRAIGHT UP and plain.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-03 07:49 AM
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50. I keep my word ... here you go
From Yoo-Hoo News:

BILL WANTS HIL TO RUN
Mon Sep 22, 7:11 AM ET

By James Gordon Meek
Daily News Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON - Former President Bill Clinton (news - web sites) is brainstorming a way for Sen. Hillary Clinton (news - web sites) to sidestep her pledge not to run for President in 2004, it was reported yesterday ...

HILLARY DELETES FANS' PREZ-RUN E-MAIL
Sat Sep 20, 4:43 AM ET


By Deborah Orin

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites) yesterday abruptly yanked all the run-for-president e-mails off her official Web site in a bid to stop speculation that she's leaving the door open to a 2004 White House bid ...


Clinton denies plans to run, declines to endorse Clark
Thu Sep 25, 6:37 AM ET

Craign Gilbert

Washington

An object of endless and elaborate speculation, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites) sat down for breakfast Wednesday with 60 reporters and denied in a half-dozen different ways that she will run for president in 2004 or that she's taking sides in the Democratic nominating fight ...


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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:36 PM
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46. I'll take mine with cheese sauce.
"Should Hillary Run?" No. No. And another NO.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:56 PM
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13. Actually, I think she put out the book....
To make a bit of money. She did quite well--much better than the conservative competition with their bulk-buying supporters.

It appears her short-term plans are to continue as Senator. She may have long-term plans but I doubt she'd encourage another term by Bush to support them. Despite what you hear, she doesn't "hate American" that much.

Of course, I don't "do lunch" with her.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 03:02 PM
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17. Without a doubt?
Are you describing Freepers, or are you just feeling a little cocky today?
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:49 PM
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7. Nope. Not her time.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:50 PM
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8. No
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:51 PM
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9.  although, anyone could beat the "Chimp scumbag idiot" of a pResident,
Edited on Fri Sep-26-03 02:52 PM by oasis
Hillary will NOT run.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:58 PM
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14. MOMMY ME AH!
I asked SHOULD she run, not IS she running?

Don't tell me it depends on what the meaning of "is" is because I said SHOULD.

Whatever happened to "exact words." Now I know how Mr. Brady felt when Greg tried to gild his willy! Not to mention the time Buddy Clinton got his toof knocked out by Peter. I'm going back to watch Nick; I need to escape reality.

:silly:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 03:03 PM
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18. In that case,she shouldn't run against the thieving scumbag imbecile.
Edited on Fri Sep-26-03 03:05 PM by oasis
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einsteins stein Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 08:32 PM
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37. NO, she SHOULD NOT Run
Is that what you wanted to hear?
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 09:32 PM
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39. I'm sorry!
I can't handle the spoof!

:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:38 PM
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47. The answer is still the same-NO. n/t
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-03 09:09 AM
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51. No, she SHOULD NOT run...
When I still hear shit like CNN being called the "Clinton News Network" and and get Emails reminding me that Monica L. was a lazy slob when it "comes" to going to the dry cleaners.

When I hear people blaming shit that Ray-Guns and Poppy did on Big Dawg (just because that's what Rush told them).

And the RNC starts shit like that "Gold Star Mothers" hoax...

No. I have an admiration for Hillary that probably borders on unhealthy, but no, given that the BFEE and the RW would eat her like a shark feeding frenzy, She wouldn't have a chance.

Shame. I think she'd be good for the country.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:51 PM
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10. I think it is getting a little crowded up there, so no.
We have enough to fill the job well.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:53 PM
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11. not in my mind, I feel we have a fantastic field as is
eom.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:53 PM
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12. Sure, Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush in 2008
Yipee, our trend towards aristocracy is complete.

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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 03:07 PM
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19. IMO No!
eom
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 04:32 PM
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20. I see you're giving yourself some wiggle room there.
Why did you say IMO and not IMHO?

Something in the subconscious, perhaps?

:)
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 04:37 PM
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21. Yawn.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 04:43 PM
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22. No
She SHOULD not.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 04:45 PM
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24. Hillary is polling behind Dean in NH
Winning the nomination would be by no means a cakewalk for her.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 05:29 PM
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27. No.
n/t
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 05:38 PM
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28. Not unless you want to hear about Vince Foster EVERY DAY,
on the hour, plus Whitewater and Travelgate. CNN would run old footage of those "scandals" 24/7. Wouldn't work?? Oh, yes it would, on the 20% nonpolitical voters who fall right into spintraps like that.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 06:04 PM
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29. You still hear those things today
Not a week goes by that Leno doesn't do a Monica and/or Bill joke. He'll still be doing them ten years from now.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 06:09 PM
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30. Leno is a repuke, I think.
But you are right; imagine the media reaction if Hillary did decide to run in 2004... It would suck all the oxygen from the primary races for the other Dems. And that would be best case scenario.
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 06:17 PM
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31. No! they would rake her over the coals
forever for it. It would NEVER go away.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 06:28 PM
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32. Nope, she should serve out her term as senator, proving her cred
The wingnuts would love nothing more than to have another Clinton pincushion to bombard with accusations of dishonesty.

By staying in the senate, she gets another line on her political resume', and can point to a specific promise she kept even though it would have been possible for her to get the Democratic nomination. That can only make her a stronger candidate in the general election.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 07:55 PM
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33. The word is Bill Clinton was putting out feelers
She obviously can't say she wants to run but he can test the waters for her with comments like "they're the two stars of the party." He also said the people would forgive her if she went back on her word. Again, another "feeler."
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 07:58 PM
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34. DON'T FEED THE TROLLS


Flame baiting freeperesque non logic.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 08:27 PM
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35. As the Alan Parsons Project Said ...






DON'T FEAR THE FREEPER


:silly:




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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:07 PM
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43. Ummm....
Edited on Fri Sep-26-03 11:08 PM by hippywife
wrong band. That was Blue Oyster Cult.

And on edit: As long as I'm here, I may as well say this yet again:

NO! NEVER! I WISH SHE AND BILL WOULD HAVE THE GRACE TO DISAPPEAR FROM PUBLIC LIFE FOR AWHILE. :mad:
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:51 PM
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49. my bad
I didn't know Tom Petty was in Blue Oyster. For some reason, the name Alan Parsons sticks out in my mind. I had better get a hammer.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 08:31 PM
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36. Bush Down To 49% Approval Rating
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm




Read 'Em And Freep!

Just had to get that off my chest

:silly:




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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 08:48 PM
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38. No
And in case you didn't hear it the first time, No.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 10:49 PM
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40. THE BUSH COUNTDOWN CLOCK
Edited on Fri Sep-26-03 10:50 PM by TDubyaA
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:00 PM
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41. Chimpy should be impeached for the 9/11 lapses and then lying about WMD's
Edited on Fri Sep-26-03 11:01 PM by oasis
While we are on the subject of "shoulds" that will never happen.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:02 PM
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42. NO
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:25 PM
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45. No.
Why do you ask?
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Kanola Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:40 PM
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48. No. If you think Clark is divisive with the Repugs
Hillary will only amount to the repugs to angry action because they hate the Clintons. They will get truckloads of people shipped to precincts to vote againist her. She is too much venom for the Rwingers.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-03 09:11 AM
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52. NO!
Regardless of your opinions of her she can NOT win nationally. The whore media will also eat her alive for breaking her promise to constituents not to run before her Senate term is up.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-03 12:45 PM
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54. NO means NO only in sex, not politics
Don't mix the two.

(That's what mama always says.)


:think:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-03 12:48 PM
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55. No
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-03 01:06 PM
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56. The piece of shit in the White House "should" be impeached.
Edited on Sat Sep-27-03 01:13 PM by oasis
But since the hypocritical rat fuck repugs in congress won't do it, we are stuck with the Pretender and his asshole supporters for another 14 months. The Unelected Chimp is too dense to realize that anyone could crush his idiot ass.
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-03 05:53 PM
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57. you are so wrong


sh*t can't be impeached ... only flushed







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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 01:08 AM
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58. That's a dandy :-)
:-)
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doh_phooey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-03 01:37 AM
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59. The Election Bush "Stool"
let's roll?

:P
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