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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:21 PM
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Theonomy: scary shit
Amazing what you find on religious-right Web sites. And they wonder why they get compared to the Taliban:

http://withchrist.org/MJS/theonomy.htm
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:28 PM
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1. Gobblygook. You trying to make my head spin?
Based on nothing but the writings of other nitwits.

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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:31 PM
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2. Dominionist /Reconstructionist /Theocratic Resources, Freethought Links

Dominionism's Theocratic Designs and Radical Clerics


Fundamentalist Radical Clerics such as Falwell, Dobson, and Robertson are not merely medieval throwbacks or misguided religious hacks. They are part of a well organized subversionary movement known as "Dominionism". Dominionism constitutes a serious threat to American Democracy. These Radical Clerics have developed and are executing a detailed plan to gradually replace the free, secular democratic society of the United States with a Theocracy.

It is critical that people become aware of the extreme agenda these people have for the United States and ultimately for the world. The results of the 2004 Presidential Election were not a fluke or something that was drummed up over a period of months. It has been in planning for over 20 years, and what we are seeing take place now is, in the words of Katherine Yurica, "the swift advance of a planned coup".

The Swift Advance of a Planned Coup: Conquering by Stealth and Deception - How the Dominionists Are Succeeding in Their Quest for National Control and World Power
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheSwiftAdvance...

The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOf...

Video on the Christian Reconstructionist Dominionist Theocratic Agenda
http://www.theocracywatch.org/av/video_dominion.ram

The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
a public information project from TheocracyWatch.org

http://www.theocracywatch.org

The Religious Right - An Anti-American Terrorist Movement
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8816.ht...

Antidote to Fundamentalist Nut-Cases is a Revival of the Freethought Movement


I think what we need is a Freethought movement similar to what the US had around the turn of the 20th century. Robert Ingersoll was touring the country, lecturing on secularism and exposing the claims of revealed religion to be false.

Unless something breaks the stranglehold of religious fundamentalism in the US - and in the world - I think we are going to continue the slide into Theocracy and destruction.

Would TV stations even dare run ads that exposed the claims of Christianity to be falsehoods? Could Freethinkers form an 'anti-Gideons' and leave copies of Thomas Paine's "Age of Reason" and Robert Ingersoll's "Why I am Agnostic" in hotel rooms? Could Freethinkers produce tracts and pamphlets showing the contradictions in the Bible and exposing the rip-off of dozens of pagan beliefs and their incorporation into Christianity?

Could we have a Second Enlightenment, a Second Age of Reason? Could we re-secularize a world gone mad with religious superstition?

Robert Ingersoll's "Why I Am Agnostic"
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_inger...

Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason"
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine...

*****

From "The Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine (1795)

EVERY national church or religion has established itself by pretending some special mission from God, communicated to certain individuals. The Jews have their Moses; the Christians their Jesus Christ, their apostles and saints; and the Turks their Mahomet; as if the way to God was not open to every man alike. Each of those churches shows certain books, which they call revelation, or the Word of God. The Jews say that their Word of God was given by God to Moses face to face; the Christians say, that their Word of God came by divine inspiration; and the Turks say, that their Word of God (the Koran) was brought by an angel from heaven. Each of those churches accuses the other of unbelief; and, for my own part, I disbelieve them all.

When I am told that the Koran was written in Heaven, and brought to Mahomet by an angel, the account comes to near the same kind of hearsay evidence and second hand authority as the former. I did not see the angel myself, and therefore I have a right not to believe it. When also I am told that a woman, called the Virgin Mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, Joseph, said that an angel told him so, I have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this; for neither Joseph nor Mary wrote any such matter themselves. It is only reported by others that they said so. It is hearsay upon hearsay, and I do not chose to rest my belief upon such evidence.

It is, however, not difficult to account for the credit that was given to the story of Jesus Christ being the Son of God. He was born when the heathen mythology had still some fashion and repute in the world, and that mythology had prepared the people for the belief of such a story. Almost all the extraordinary men that lived under the heathen mythology were reputed to be the sons of some of their gods. It was not a new thing at that time to believe a man to have been celestially begotten; the intercourse of gods with women was then a matter of familiar opinion. Their Jupiter, according to their accounts, had cohabited with hundreds; the story therefore had nothing in it either new, wonderful, or obscene; it was conformable to the opinions that then prevailed among the people called Gentiles, or mythologists, and it was those people only that believed it. The Jews, who had kept strictly to the belief of one God, and no more, and who had always rejected the heathen mythology, never credited the story.

It is curious to observe how the theory of what is called the Christian Church, sprung out of the tail of the heathen mythology. A direct incorporation took place in the first instance, by making the reputed founder to be celestially begotten. The trinity of gods that then followed was no other than a reduction of the former plurality, which was about twenty or thirty thousand. The statue of Mary succeeded the statue of Diana of Ephesus. The deification of heroes changed into the canonization of saints. The Mythologists had gods for everything; the Christian Mythologists had saints for everything. The church became as crowded with the one, as the pantheon had been with the other; and Rome was the place of both. The Christian theory is little else than the idolatry of the ancient mythologists, accommodated to the purposes of power and revenue; and it yet remains to reason and philosophy to abolish the amphibious fraud.


Consider a Freethought PAC to Run Attack Ads Exposing Religious Superstition on TV


I think what we need to counter this type of crap is a Freethought PAC - One that would run aggressive attack ads on TV. "Freethinkers for Truth", or something along those lines, to debunk religious superstition using 30 second TV attack ads. They could feature "Great Moments in American Secularism and Freethought" with "Great American Freethinkers" like Thomas Paine and Robert Ingersoll.

If TV stations would not run the ads, we could pull the same, "help, help, I'm being repressed!" crap that the fundies are always whining about. And of course the refusal to run the ads would draw attention to the works of Paine and Ingersoll, which are in themselves a very effective antidote to religious superstition.

The Freethought Zone
Science and Reason Over Religion and Superstition

http://freethought.freeservers.com /

Freedom from Religion Foundation
http://www.ffrf.org /

Secular Humanism
http://www.secularhumanism.org /

Secular Web
http://www.infidels.org/index.shtml

Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason - Online
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine...

Complete Works of Robert Ingersoll - Online
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_inger...

Evolve Fish - Your One-Stop Shop for Freethought Materials
http://www.evolvefish.com

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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:33 PM
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3. Thanks!
I have recently discovered this whole "theonomy" thing. It really, really is Taliban-like.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:14 PM
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6. Katherine Yurica's "Despoiling of America" is the best exposition IMHO
Katherine Yurica's paper "The Despoiling of America" is the best exposition of Dominionism extant, IMHO.

Yurica is a self-described 'spirit-filled Christian'. Therefore, unlike me, she has no bone to pick with Christianity per se. She described with great detail the planning and unfolding of this bizarre perversion of Christianity and the intense designs these radical clerics have on our Secular Democratic Government.

The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOf...

This article is so rigorously documented that the footnotes are nearly as long as the article itself.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:34 PM
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4. Just another word for Dominionism.
They are exactly like the Taliban -- and they're all insane and power hungry.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:36 PM
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5. This is some dangerous crap!
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