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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:12 PM
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Does this look like a man in good health?
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 10:15 PM by cynatnite


The WH released this pic today. I lightened it up a little because it was so dark. It's also not a good quality to begin with. An attempt to hide something? hmm
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:14 PM
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1. 6 months as continuing VP - tops
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:15 PM
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2. He looks a little puffy
and like he's sitting kinda weird for some reason. Maybe he had a rear end exploratory?

Not someone pleasant to look at anyway.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:15 PM
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3. looks like heart failure to me... excess fluid
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:18 PM
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7. Congestive Heart Failure
http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4585

How do you diagnose and treat congestive heart failure?

Your doctor is the best person to make the diagnosis. The most common signs of congestive heart failure are swollen legs or ankles or difficulty breathing. Another symptom is weight gain when fluid builds up.

CHF usually requires a treatment program of

* rest
* proper diet
* modified daily activities
* drugs such as
o ACE (angiotensin-converting enzyme) inhibitors
o beta blockers
o digitalis
o diuretics
o vasodilators

Various drugs are used to treat congestive heart failure. They perform different functions. ACE inhibitors and vasodilators expand blood vessels and decrease resistance. This allows blood to flow more easily and makes the heart's work easier or more efficient. Beta blockers can improve how well the heart's left lower chamber (left ventricle) pumps. Digitalis increases the pumping action of the heart, while diuretics help the body eliminate excess salt and water.

When a specific cause of congestive heart failure is discovered, it should be treated or, if possible, corrected. For example, some cases congestive heart failure can be treated by treating high blood pressure. If the heart failure is caused by an abnormal heart valve, the valve can be surgically replaced.

If the heart becomes so damaged that it can't be repaired, a more drastic approach should be considered. A heart transplant could be an option.

Most people with mild and moderate congestive heart failure can be treated. Proper medical supervision can prevent them from becoming invalids.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:33 PM
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19. Consider what is known on the "other side".
CHF usually requires a treatment program of

* rest
* proper diet
* modified daily activities
* drugs such as
o ACE (angiotensin-converting enzyme) inhibitors
o beta blockers
o digitalis
o diuretics
o vasodilators

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-060.shtml
Hypertension and Hypertensive Vascular Disease
Updated: 5/28/2004

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Etiology
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Summary

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Vitamin C
Essential Fatty Acids
Vitamin E
Garlic
L-Arginine
Aspirin
Calcium, Magnesium, and Potassium
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There are nutrients that may reduce or eliminate the need for antihypertensive medications. However, nutrients may not work immediately to lower blood pressure the way drugs do, so it is important to continue nutritional-based blood pressure-lowering therapy over a period of 4 to 12 weeks. Physician cooperation is always crucial if you are to reduce your intake of antihypertensive drugs safely. Routine blood pressure monitoring is mandatory to determine if nutritional or integrated medical regimens are controlling or reducing your blood pressure. The following sections detail many nutrients important in preventing the development of hypertension, and may ultimately delay the occurrence or onset of hypertensive vascular disease and its subsequent and related cardiovascular diseases.

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:03 AM
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34. it makes perfect sense he was hospitalized in Colorado
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 12:06 AM by medeak
last week..high altitude.

old medical person here...would not be surprised if he's on O2 at night or prn.

edited to say.. CHF prognosis after diagnosis is usually 5-7 years. Wonder how long he has suffered from malady because he looks pretty end stage to me?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:17 PM
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4. There is a person sitting across from him on a couch
I cut him out of the picture. But my guess would be that dick might have problems getting out of chairs and needs assistance. If he wants to put on the aura of health, that would be the way to do it.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:17 PM
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5. I doubt it was a rear end exploratory
you couldn't get a pin up that guys ass with a jackhammer...
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:20 PM
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9. on cheney its really hard to tell which end is the asshole anyway
:smoke:
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:30 PM
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17. True. The bastard is so full of sh*t it just kinda spews out of both ends
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:24 PM
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14. LOL!
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:21 PM
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10. F off
Sorry, I had to quote Evil Dick.

Just leave the man alone, though, he just has hemrroids.
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DisassemblingHisLies Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:54 PM
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30. My aunt, who had breathing problems from being overweight,
had to sit forward like that. I guess it allowed more air into her lungs.
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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:18 PM
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6. He looks like an old televangelist I used to know about -
Herbert W. Armstrong, shortly before he kicked the bucket.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:20 PM
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8. I feel conflicted....
.... how can I have SO MUCH HATE for these people, and look at that picture and feel pity for him??

Am I getting soft! :nopity:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:23 PM
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12. Nope
Pity him first, then kick his ass....or kick his ass, then pity him. You choose :smoke:
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:24 PM
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15. That made me feel better...
Thanks! :toast:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:40 PM
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21. Don't know.....
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:47 PM
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24. Thanks for the advice...
Will you be my new drug dealer?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:49 PM
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25. Your doggone right for a flea I will be your drug dealer.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:51 PM
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28. GOOD...
Cuz I'm payin 25 bucks for a bag of stems and seeds :(
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:53 PM
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29. Grown your own... all you need is a good case of Glaucoma, shouldn't
be too hard to develop.... the rest is easy, horse manure, black light... you won't need me for long!!!
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:09 PM
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32. That scares the shit outta me...
I've live in a couple of houses with it growin in mass in the basement. Makes me a nervous wreak!

Guess I would feel at ease with a prescription though. :bounce:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:11 AM
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37. Poor Matt Lauer.
:cry:
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:28 AM
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38. CNN just told me....
not to take levitra, as it may cause a sudden lose of vision.

Just say NO... thanks! :crazy:
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:22 PM
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11. Wow. That's scary!
If he croaks, then Bush will take over as President!!!!!!!!!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:32 PM
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18. hehehe........
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 10:35 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
<a stiffled> :rofl:
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:25 PM
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16. he's just puffy from that full length bulletproof body suit he's wearing
under his suit. He's probably all chafed up under there.

Otherwise, maybe he's got some heart devices rigged underneath his shirt to jumpstart and/or monitor his cold black ticker.
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:37 PM
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20. It is his Mental Health
That I am most concerned about.
I am very concerned.
Very concerned indeed.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:42 PM
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22. If you stretch your imagination and
blur your eyes a little and black out the gray suit there is a slight resemblance to George Washington or maybe John Adams. OMG, I am so sorry, I must have had a sudden visual/mental distortion of some kind.
:banghead:
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:44 PM
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23. He's under the fine medical care of Dr. Bill Frist.
:eyes:
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DisassemblingHisLies Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:59 PM
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31. LOL!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:49 PM
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26. I agree with MichiganVote
we'll see him resign his office for health reasons before 2005 is out or in early 2006.

Thing is, I think there is something seriously wrong with Slippy McFallsalot's health, too, and has been.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:50 PM
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27. Looks like a man trying to rip a stealthy fart
;-)
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:09 PM
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33. Dude, you are so wrong ...
He's busting a gut trying to hold it in. :nuke:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:06 AM
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35. He looks about 88 there. nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:06 AM
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36. he's back from the taxidermist, huh?
looks so almost lifelike
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