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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:41 PM
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Billy Graham's daughter arrested, charged with choking husband at K-Mart
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 08:42 PM by elehhhhna
Billy Graham's Daughter Arrested


NEW SMYRNA BEACH, Fla. - Evangelist Billy Graham's daughter was arrested and charged with domestic abuse after witnesses told police she choked her husband in a parking lot, authorities said.

Virginia Graham Foreman, 59, spent a night in jail after the July 1 confrontation outside a shopping center, police said. She was charged with misdemeanor domestic abuse and released the following day.

Three witnesses told police that Foreman pushed her husband and grabbed him by the throat, authorities said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050708/ap_on_re_us/graham_...




Books by Gigi (Virginia) Graham Tchividjian Foreman:

Currents of the Heart. Portland, OR: Questar Publishers, 1996.

Marriage, Questions Women Ask. With Gloria Gaither and Susan Yates. Portland, OR: Multnomah, 1992.

Passing it On: Four Generations of Graham Traditions. New York: McCracken Press, 1993.

Weather of the Heart: Glimpses of God in Sunlight and Storm. Portland, OR: Multnomah, 1991.

Choke him like a Chicken: okay I made that one up ~elehhhna
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:42 PM
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1. So...

maybe he deserved it!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:42 PM
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2. Well at least it wasn't Walmart
:shrug:
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:51 PM
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15. Way to look on the bright side
:applause:
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:44 PM
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3. That's shameful

she should have choked her brother (Franklin).
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:51 PM
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13. lol! n/t
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:44 PM
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4. Those silly Fundies............... n.t
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:44 PM
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5. That's sad
When you're that age one would assume better sense.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:44 PM
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6. She shops at K-Mart???
That's almost the bigger story.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:45 PM
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7. ROFLMFAO! :-)
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:46 PM
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8. Now that it's been reveled that Billy Graham is a Democrat
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 08:48 PM by Island Blue
the Freepers will have a field day with this one. The bashing should start about ..........NOW! On edit, they will also find a way to blame Bill & Hillary for this since Rev. Graham shared the stage with them at his last revival.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:54 PM
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18. Of course
Especially since Graham at his last revival basically endorsed Hillary as president and said Bill should become a preacher.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:09 PM
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26. Bingo .. glad I scrolled down. I was going to post the same thing.
Billy Graham is an old-time Presbyterian (PCUSA) minister who lives in a Presbyterian enclave (Black Mountain, NC) in a true log cabin. As an old-time Presbyterian (USA! not the fundy PCA), I am extremely proud of Billy Graham's self-outing as a Democrat. I have actually know it for years.

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:45 PM
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37. Pretty sad state of affairs that someone should have to "out" themselves
as being in a political party. And even worse that they should be immediately attacked by some numbnutz fundie Taliban for having said so (whoever the guy is who said that Graham went down a few points in his book or something).
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:47 PM
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9. Hmmm. Those Christian values keep surfacing.
Seriously, the woman sounds like she has mental problems, problems that might have been taken care of years ago if these religious folks didn't insist on doing psychological counseling themselves.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:47 PM
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10. Do you suppose there was a security cam? . . . . . . n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:49 PM
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11. Uh
:rofl:

Oh, gee,...I am so sorry. I am TOTALLY against domestic abuse!! :grr:



But, this just strikes me as,...

:rofl:
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:50 PM
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12. Billy's two useless children are in it fo da' money!!!
Daddy built an empire. With the take over of the right-wing Christians in this country, these two saw the dollar signs as big as crosses dance before their eyes. She will cry before her flock and they will forgive her. Now, if we could get her to choke Santorum, I'd spring for her bail!!!!!!!!!!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:56 PM
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20. Like he wasn't in it for the money?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:51 PM
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14. Gigi ?
Does this look like a Gigi ?

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:07 PM
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24. Is that her blouse or prison-issue fashion?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:32 PM
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34. I think that is
Day Glo Prison Apricot #5.
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:54 PM
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16. This is oh too precious. nt
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:54 PM
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17. Does he have more than one daughter ?
There was one arguing the fundi point of view on one of the cable shows just a couple of weeks ago. I can't even remember what the subject but she looked just like her dad.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:55 PM
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19. I'm dying to know why she did it


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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:31 PM
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33. Ok that photo is just so disturbing
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:40 PM
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36. It disturbed me while working on it
I hope you see that it's George and George. But that's who he is. The narcissist.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:01 PM
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39. Like to have scared me to death !
I thought they cloned him.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:05 PM
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41. Deep down I bet he wishes they could
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:08 PM
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42. I think you're right.
Snowflakes my ass.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:13 PM
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43. hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa
you sure can turn a phrase!
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:32 PM
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45. I wish I had your talent.
What an excellent way to express yourself and give others a giggle at the same time.
:applause:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:18 PM
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46. Photo manipulation is fun
Thanks for your very kind thoughts. I appreciate it. Lots of art here at DU inspired me to try some political stuff. Not my usual art work but it's so satisfying!
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:28 PM
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47. I just posted in your
thread in the WF.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:56 PM
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21. is this the same daughter that Larry King has on all the time or is
she the one they don't talk about?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:10 PM
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27. This is not the Preacher Gal Daughter. This Gigi person has
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 09:10 PM by elehhhhna
a total of 4 last names, leading me to belive she's been married three times,

She keeps actng like that, they'll rename her Gigli.

Hubs probably told her to go the (Blue) light once to often.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:10 PM
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This is not the Preacher Gal Daughter. This Gigi person has
a total of 4 last names, leading me to belive she's been married three times,

She keeps actng like that, they'll rename her Gigli.

Hubs probably told her to go the (Blue) light once too often.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:10 PM
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28. This is not the Preacher Gal Daughter. This Gigi person has
a total of 4 last names, leading me to belive she's been married three times,

She keeps actng like that, they'll rename her Gigli.

Hubs probably told her to go the (Blue) light once too often.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:10 PM
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29. I SAID: This is not the Preacher Gal Daughter. This Gigi person has
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 09:11 PM by elehhhhna
Sorry it was faster to add "I said" than put dupe/delete on all those boo-boo posts.


a total of 4 last names, leading me to belive she's been married three times,

She keeps actng like that, they'll rename her Gigli.

Hubs probably told her to go the (Blue) light once too often.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:58 PM
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22. I KNOW domestic abuse is not a laughing matter, but ...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Forgive me. I shouldn't find this funny, but I do. A part of me can't help but be amused when a member of the "family values" crowd gets caught in a moment of hypocrisy. :evilgrin:

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:05 PM
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23. All this "Christian love" makes me want to ...............
convert to satanism.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:09 PM
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25. Is this the preacher gal who occasionally bloviates on Larry King???
Another one I can't stand....
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:21 PM
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30. "witnesses had just misunderstood what was going on...."
What's to misunderstand?

She grabbed the old man by the throat and choked the crap out of him because he pissed her off! LOL.

What wife hasn't wanted to do that on occaison?

After her night in the pokey she'll get probation and anger management classes- all of which will probably do her good...

Hell, she'll probably write a juicy chapter about it and use the experience to sell her next book! I can see her on Oprah "Why you should never choke your husband- no matter how richly he may deserve it..." }(


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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:33 PM
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35. But family-values women
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 09:33 PM by Gay Green
are supposed to be * submissive *. :sarcasm:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 11:52 AM
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49. If they'd stop forbidding sodomy,these people would have happier marriages
You never see these things happen in the parking lot of Good Vibrations or Victoria's Secret, do you?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:27 PM
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31. Virginia Graham Tchividjian Foreman
sounds like the unlucky mr foreman is hubby #2?

is mrs foreman just another family values type serial adulterer?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 08:45 AM
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48. You forgot Poland.! She's got ANOTHER last name, too--Leftwich
It's V.G L. T F. (gigi the serial marrier for short)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:31 PM
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32. I guess the spirit moved her
yeah, yeah....boo-hiss and all that...
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 11:58 AM
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51. hehehe
nice. :toast:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:47 PM
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38. Aww, Couldn't It Have Been JUNIOR? n/t
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:03 PM
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40. How Can Somebody Live With Believing What They Believe?
Basically, people like Billy Graham believe in a Hitler-like God, a supposed God of love who condemns people to hell for all eternity if they happen to miss out on accepting Jesus Christ in this lifetime.

They can't question that belief, or question anything in the Bible, which is supposed to be the absolute Word of God.

One would have to repress a lot to really believe that way, and that some of one's fellow humans are headed to hell for all eternity. And the responsibility of having to do all one can to win people to Christ, to be concerned with not only one's own but other people's eternal destinies. Or, alternatively, to gloat about other people going to hell.

Somebody like Virginia cannot, and dare not, question her upbringing, her parents (especially if they are of the stature of Ruth and Billy Graham), the Bible, or the beliefs she has been brought up with.

She has to repress any doubts, struggles, or anger, so it finally finds an outlet when she chokes her husband.

And of course her husband would not be the sort of person to stand up for himself, but rather would deny any abuse.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:20 PM
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44. Was she graduating from Focus on the Family School?
K-Mart does have SpongeBob gear and her husband probably pointed out she could get the made in China cheaper version at Wal*Mart and then it went bad, real bad... :rofl:
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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 11:54 AM
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50. Apple doesn't fall too far from the tree!
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