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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:43 PM
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Are There Any Details About the London Attacks?
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 07:48 PM by spooked911
What kind of bombs there were?

What form they were in?

Suicide bombers?

These were pretty powerful bombs!

How the hell did the terrorists get their hands on this stuff?????
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ICantBelieve Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:47 PM
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1. NO, I don't think so...
There aren't any details that I know of yet. The Brits are probably being pretty quiet about what info they have. I actually find it hard to believe that all of the planned attacks came off. What are the odds of that? The Brits are much more terror-aware than we are. You'd think they'd have caught and prevented one. But we haven't heard anything. I think they're being tight-lipped about the details in order to not compromise the investigation.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:49 PM
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2. Or they are being tight-lipped in order to work out the cover-up.
:tinfoilhat:
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ICantBelieve Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:52 PM
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4. Well, I don't think so...
I think it was terrorists. And I think it was probably al Qaeda related, although not necessarily coordinated by bin Laden's crew. Time will tell. If there were a conspiracy, I don't think it's infested the UK to the point that they could possibly cover up something like this. They have a lot lower population of sheeple than we do. And they don't react the same way to a terrorist attack as we do.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:52 PM
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3. They Were Not Particularly Powerful, Sir
Casualties in the enclosed tube trains would have been much worse, of they had been. They seem to have been on timers or cell-phone detonation; the remains of a man strapped to the charge are quite distinctive.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:12 PM
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7. The one that shredded a bus seems to have been fairly strong
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:13 PM
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8. Very Weak, Sir
An ordinary concussion grenade could have achieved that; the structure involved is quite flimsy. A powerful detonation would have reduced the thing to a charred chassis, and killed all passenfers as well as bystanders.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:16 PM
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9. still, explosives are not THAT easy to get...
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:53 PM
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11. You Do Not Want To Know, Sir
How readily they can be had or contrived, with a bit of privacy for the latter doing, or how easily they can be moved about, by people with decent nerves....
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ICantBelieve Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:03 PM
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5. More bombs found...
Just heard that they found two unexploded bombs after they evacuated everyone. That should help...
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:55 PM
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12. They should conclusively prove that it was either Syria or Iran
:eyes:
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:06 PM
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6. Most of your questions are what the ongoing investigation is all about.
Speculation runs rampant, both here and in the Corporate Media...but ain't nobody Knows nothin' for sure just yet.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:51 PM
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10. Some Details
Investigators searching for clues in the attacks here said Thursday that the three bombs used in the subway apparently were detonated by timers, not suicide bombers, and that a fourth device may have been intended for a target other than the city bus that it destroyed. (snip)
A group calling itself the Secret Organization of Al Qaeda in Europe announced on a Web site that it was responsible for the bombings. The announcement also threatened Italy and Denmark, which have provided troops to the American-led coalition fighting in Iraq.

The authenticity of the message could not be confirmed, and several experts said they strongly doubted that it was authentic. (snip)
Counterterrorism officials in London said they were still trying to determine the type of explosives that were used. One official speculated that the No. 30 bus whose roof was blown off at 9:47 a.m. in Bloomsbury was demolished accidentally by a suicide bomber. But another theory gaining momentum was that the bomb exploded prematurely as a bomber was carrying it to an intended target, several American and British counterterrorism officials said.

The officials said that the three subway bombs appeared to have been detonated by timers, not cellphones or other remote triggers. The bombs on the trains were believed to be package bombs and are believed to have been left by the attackers who fled before they went off.

Officials refused to confirm or deny reports that two unexploded package bombs were recovered from trains. A senior American intelligence official said the British had conducted "at least one controlled explosion" of a suspicious package found after the attacks, but he said he could not confirm that the package was another bomb.

The bombings in Madrid and London were separated by 16 months, and the ones in Madrid were set off by cell phones. But the attacks bear eerie similarities and grim lessons for counterterrorism officials. (snip)
"There have been a lot of attempts" in London, said Baltasar Garzn, a Spanish judge who has investigated Al Qaeda for years. "And in this case, they finally hit some of the easiest targets with these trains. Their only real obstacle to this kind of action is getting the explosives. Once they have them, it's very easy to attack targets like Sunday trains."

Mr. Mates, of the Intelligence and Security Committee, said it had been only a matter of time before a coordinated attack struck London. He said the authorities had thwarted at least three coordinated attacks in London since 9/11. "We've caught and prevented those who were trying to get through and stopped them," he said.

Britain has considerable experience investigating bombs and identifying those responsible, based on years of attacks in London and in Northern Ireland by the Irish Republican Army.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/08/international/europe/...
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