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bigendian Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:47 PM
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I feel bad for Tony Blair.
On the day of the WTC attack his statements about the world being with us really touched me. It was the first voice of calm I had heard all that day. Finally, Bush came out of hiding and started banging the war drums which, given his track record at anything except getting into public office, scared the hell out of me because I suspected he was just the WRONG person for this time in our country. My opinion has not changed.
But Mr. Blair for all his faults touched me that day.
God bless the Britons.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:49 PM
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1. Our own "leader" couldn't speak to us.... so he did.....
I hope he can find a moment's peace
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:49 PM
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2. I don't.... his decisions regarding Iraq are mostly to blame
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 01:52 PM by nini
I hope he's guilt ridden until the day he dies.


He can get some respect back from me if he does what's best for his country and gets out of W's bullshit NOW.
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bigendian Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:55 PM
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11. There is talk of a pull-out.
IIRC NPR reported this a couple of days ago. British pull-out that is.
I admit his cooperation with bush has been distressing.
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Katherine2 Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:49 PM
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3. I felt bad for him, too
He wasn't in London to bask in the glow of all the freedom he's create. He'll just get some cheap afterglow.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:50 PM
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5. Amen
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:50 PM
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4. that day
i kept wishing clinton was still the president.
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:51 PM
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6. I don't
I feel bad for the British People but not one bit of pitty for Blair. He just knows how to speak in a convincing manner. I doubt there is real substance behind what he says.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:53 PM
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8. Same here
Blair caused this. He went along with the Iraq plan. He didn't stand up and say "no" and tell the international court or someone what Bush was up to. He could've been a man. Instead he's a poodle. I do feel bad for the victims families and the citizen's of London. Blair is still Bush's poodle.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:51 PM
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7. Ordinary Britons have my sympathy, Mr. Blair does not
Tony Blair is a warmonger and fully on board with the Neocon war agenda.

The violence that took place today is violence that he helped bring to his nation's doorstep, and for that he has earned my scorn, not my sympathy.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:53 PM
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9. Fuck Tony Blair.
He shat in his own nest.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:53 PM
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10. Blair gave a great speech after 9/11, and I remember thinking
at that time that it was too bad we had a bumbling doofus like Bush as a "leader" rather than a smart, eloquent, articulate guy like Blair. Unfortunately Tony has spent the last 4 years stepping in George's poo, and liking it, and I just don't have any use for him any more. He's been enabling the BFEE's Iraq misadventure from the beginning, and if you ask me he can go bugger himself.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:57 PM
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12. One either faces the consequences of ones actions

...or one is a coward.

I've had to pay for every single thing I've done wrong in my life. He can damn well do the same.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:58 PM
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13. I don't feel bad for Blair
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 02:09 PM by kenny blankenship
Blair gave Bush the critical support he absolutely required in order to invade Iraq. Why did he do this over the concerns of his intelligence services that doing so was unwise, and over the concern of his legal counsel that doing so was a criminal act of international aggression?

Because he wanted to position his Labour party as "just as good" a partner to US militarism as the Tories.

Please read up on the Downing Street Memoranda. It's spelled out in red ink. Blair wanted to make Labour useful and reliable for American imperialism.

These people who've died in London were killed by Blair's shameless cynicism--just as though he shot them in the head each with a pistol. He did it--he killed them-- for his own GAIN. Just like the thousands and thousands he has killed in Iraq. More innocents will die too, before Britain is done paying for his crime.

I feel bad because Blair will probably be able to spin this event into a spectacle of nationalism and blood vengeance behind which he can shield his personal treachery and his utter lack of character.

Let's save our pity for Blair's victims whether in Baghdad or London or wherever they turn out to be.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:59 PM
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14. I feel badly for him when I think of how he'll feel when he
realizes what he's done.
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dolgoruky Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:12 PM
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16. Fuck Bliar!
Many hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people, including George Galloway, knew that invading Iraq will only INCREASE terrorism globally and make the UK a specific target. That has now come to pass.

Is Bliar a congenital fucking moron, or what?

Those deaths are HIS responsibility, and the responsibility of all those pussy MPs who voted for the war because they wanted to further their careers.

Don't feel pity for him. He is an utter phoney whose words mean nothing. He's nothing more than a jumped up bureaucrat doing the bidding of big business.

Fuck him!

(Dolgoruky thumps his fist several times on the desk in anger, then encourages his one year old son to fuck Bliar too)
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:03 PM
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15. He lost my respect when he went with the lies
just like Colin Powell and John McCain. They're smart enough to know we lied to the world. And yet they put their allegiance to the Bush administration ahead of their country.
Blair betrayed his country and ours.
I feel great sympathy for the people of England. Like us, they have a leader who cares more about his own stature and less about the truth and what is right.
He will have to live with his decision to knowingly misleed the world.
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peacebaby3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:48 PM
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17. If it weren't for Iraq, I would like Blair. Other than that one issue, he
is quite liberal. I've always sworn that * had something on him or made some threats. I remember about a year ago reading something about some very severe pressure/threats made from the US before the war. I want to say it had to do with oil and tariffs (could it have been steel related somehow? Maybe not.) but it would have been pretty devastating to the UK economy from what I remember. I also think I remember that it happened during closed door meetings between US and UK officials and it sort of was - either you support us or we cut all this off and make this a living hell for you. I wish I could remember more details and where I read it. Does anyone else remember this? It was not well publicized, but I remember that I thought the source seemed legit and not particularly liberal.

This doesn't make me forgive Blair for his decision to support * and his war, but I also know that he is very good on a lot of other issues. If I were British, I would not have been able to vote for him though because I feel too strongly about the war.
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