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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:33 PM
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I am pretty darned sure that I heard Wes Clark recently predict that
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 01:41 PM by Gloria
the Iraq mess and the breeding ground created for terror activity there meant that terror acts would be spreading into western Europe.

If I'm wrong, correct me...but I'm positive I heard him say it, maybe even on one of his recent FAUX appearances.

When the British press gets over the shock, I hope they begin to go after Blair for lying along with Bush about Iraq....that's the bottom line...they both created this mess.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:36 PM
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1. I heard him say...
that they were training in Iraq and then spreading out to other parts of Europe and elsewhere....
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:38 PM
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2. Nope... you're right...
He said it. He's been a virtual one-man Oracle of Delphi on this whole mess.

TC
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:41 PM
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4. I've always considered Bush to be an Oedipus anyway...
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:50 PM
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16. oedipus wrecks... as in everything he touches-
to be more precise.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:24 PM
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8. I hope he's a Delphi
and not merely a Cassandra, who everyone ignores.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:40 PM
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3. Thanks for confirming...I wish I couldremember where I heard him say it...
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 01:42 PM by Gloria
if it was one of the FAUX things, I'd like to go back and find it.....
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:44 PM
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6. Recent CIA report says we're training terrorists
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special...

WASHINGTON - Iraq has replaced Afghanistan as the prime training ground for foreign terrorists who could travel elsewhere across the globe and wreak havoc, according to U.S. counterterrorism officials and classified studies by the CIA and the State Department.



Of particular concern, the officials and studies say, are the urban combat techniques being learned and used by foreign fighters assaulting U.S. and Iraqi troops. There's already evidence that those tactics are being replicated elsewhere.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:43 PM
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5. This is one thing that pisses me off every time that...
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 01:44 PM by skypilot
...Bush or one of his dumbass supporters spouts that line about fighting the terrorists "over there so that we don't have to fight them over here". The assholes never stop to think that "over there" is right at Europe's back door and that even if WE don't have to "fight terrorists on our soil" we put Europeans in the position of possibly having to fight on theirs.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:29 PM
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9. Unintended consequences.
That same 'over there' policy had Reagan wanting short-range nukes in Germany, facing Soviet short-range nukes in E. Germany. East and West said 'fuck this' and now, 25 years later, united Germany is the heart of the European Union.

I think the 'over there' is MEANT to include Europe, because the entire PNAC program is supposed to keep the US as the sole superpower and a peaceful, united Europe would be a threat to the PNAC agenda.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:11 PM
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7. Gloria...
I could have sworn it was in one of his appearances on Wolf Blitzer's show, but I cant find it in the transcripts.

I'll keep looking!

But, you're right. He said it.

TC
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:33 PM
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10. Also, after Madrid, some here on DU predicted London would be next
And at the risk of being morose, I think they'll either hit Paris next (because of the French presence in Afghanistan) or the US again.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 05:10 PM
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11. Kick...
:kick:

TC
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ICantBelieve Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 05:15 PM
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12. Clark will be on Hannity tonight...
See what he says about it.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:37 PM
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13. You are right about Wes Clark and Faux news
I just found this post, and it has the link...dated 6/28/05

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:41 PM
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14. It was posted by FrenchieCat and titled "Wes Clark was prescient
again with his 6/28/05 comments on Faux news"

"This was Clark's first appearance on Hannity and Colmes, in where he responded to Bush's "speech".
Here's the link to the speech response:
http://www.dembloggers.com/story/2005/6/28/193046/998

saying that Bush didn't answer a lot of questions that needed to be answered, that he didn't explain why car bombings have gone up, noting that there is no connection between 9/11 and Iraq, that this was an elective war that Bush chose to fight, that more and better trained terrorists are moving out of Iraq and into Europe and are plotting other attacks
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/lofiversi ..."


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:48 PM
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15. Thanks!
Kick :kick:
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:56 PM
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17. Welcome Zidzi! nt
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