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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:09 PM
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If we don't get rid of B* this will happen again and again.
Period.
At least maybe someone else will be willing to listen to other soultions.
(flamesuit on)
Please understand...I want to prevent futher bloodshed. Look at the big picture folks.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:12 PM
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1. They planned the first attack under Clinton.
They hate us. Bush has aggravated that, but he didn't create that hatred.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:18 PM
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6. Bush was involved in 911....MIHOP/LIHOP
Who hates us? Iraqis? Think again. They didn't hate us until the idiot-in-chief illegally, preemptively attacked their country. NOW they hate us or our government. He may not have created the hatred that brought about 911, but his daddy did and don't forget...the Bush family evil empire are good friends of the Bin Laden family. All this does nothing but further the idiot's 'war on terror' bullshit agenda.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:18 PM
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7. Yeah right, it's all Clinton's fault!
Al Qaeda went after us, but they were a small, radical fringe.

Now virtually every Muslim and most of the rest of the world dislike us. Bush has created hatred left and right. It's gone from being an isolated few to the vast many.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:37 PM
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14. Didn't say it was Clinton's fault.
Bush has certainly exacerbated the problem.

The things some boys will do to compete with their fathers...
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:21 PM
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9. At this point in time
they hate us for a reason. But that doesn't justify this act. Doesn't completely explain it either. Hatred might be free, but the means to act on it AREN'T.

Bush aggravated it from the point of yelling at each other to armed military action. That's like saying heating water doesn't cause it to boil, if you think it wasn't the cause of increased terrorism.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:23 PM
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13. Clinton did 100 times more to destroy BinLaden and AlQaeda...
planning schmanning....Bush got the warnings, 52+ warnings about 911 and didn't go a goddamn thing.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:14 PM
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2. We need to get rid of bush
and to those who say this was planned under clinton, clinton warned bush... bush ignored it
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:15 PM
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3. Bush and Blair make terrorism more likely everywhere.
They claim to be fighting terrorism, yet everything they do contains elements of terrorism and certainly inspires many to retaliate in whatever way possible no matter how gruesome.

We won't see a decrease in terrorism as long as these clueless clowns are in charge. It will only get worse.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:18 PM
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5. A Permanent state of war is their plan. We have to get rid of
the whole evil cabal. Read the PNAC membership list and fire then jail them all.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:18 PM
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4. agreed
in spades. Bush has presided over the worst attack on our nation in decades. He has proven that he can't keep us safe from those he has angered with his arrogance and his military imperialism. And he is creating more enemies with his meddling.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:20 PM
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8. I respectfully disagree
this still would of happened if Kerry had were sitting in the oval office. Why?

Because we are still in Iraq. We can't seem to stop being a country that bullies other countries. Since we've discovered we were capable of bullying we have continued to do so.

Human nature at it's worst, paranoid, afraid and filled with hate and refusal to trust.
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:23 PM
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12. I'm with you. This isn't against Bush, this is against "The West"
Out of the million reasons to drop Bush, this is not one of them.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:21 PM
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10. you can't talk about politics!
we're supposed to be grieving and realligning our sensitivity chakras and meditating on the archetypal senselessness of violence

blaming bush here will just allow our enemies to call us names and that would be awful

:sarcasm:

these criminals have been killing in the name of their own greed at least since prior to WWII (Prescott). It will never stop until they are eliminated.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:22 PM
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11. Bush and Blair are the tip of the iceberg.
Removing them from power is akin to
covering the shark bite with a band aid.
What needs to be undone is the multi nationalist
corporate domination.
They are simply the puppets of a MUCH larger
and nasty configuration of global power.

I hear what you are saying and you are
correct, but the problem is not simply defined
by the most obvious faces- our real problem is
the hundreds just like them in the shadows.

BHN
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 04:20 PM
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15. Start at the "top"/most visible I say. See what you're saying thought.n/t
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