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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:45 PM
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"If we had all been standing behind our President..."
I've already heard this on a conservative-moderate radio talk show this morning from a caller: "If we had all been standing behind our President, this wouldn't have happened."

Brace yourself folks ... a new onslaught of "liberals are to blame" and "One Country, One People, One Leader" is about to begin again in earnest.
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:46 PM
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1. Just in time for the 06 elections.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:46 PM
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2. ...we would be down the rabbit hole, too?
:shrug:
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:47 PM
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3. Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:56 PM
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21. Check your PM.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:47 PM
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4. Who was the caller - Britney Spears?
Karl must be smiling.
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DisassemblingHisLies Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:50 PM
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10. Oh, that's gooooood.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:47 PM
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5. My response
But I thought we were safer with Saddam gone!
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:48 PM
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6. They say these things as though they mean something.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 12:50 PM by skypilot
"Stand behind" him how? How and why would this have stopped anything? I don't think the terrorist are fazed by pro-Bush bumper stickers and over-displaying of the American flag--which would probably be these morons' way of "standing behind" their president.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:54 PM
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16. fuck that i'd say ...
IT'S THE PRESIDENTS INCOMPETENCE AND LIES
THAT CAUSED THIS! IMPEACH THE FUCKING MANIAC!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:49 PM
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:57 PM
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24. Standing behind the coward is the safest place in the world
because you know the yellow idiot would never place himself in any danger. He is the scaredy-cat-est world leader - EVER.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:58 PM
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26. LOL....Welcome to DU
just put him on a mountain bike with a bag of Rold Gold pretzels, and push him in that direction.

In 21st century Amerika, I hope that doesn't get your phone tapped.
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CitrusLib Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:02 PM
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33. Ha! (and thanks for the welcome)
I'm convinced my letters to the editor already have me on some master list somewhere. My phones could already be tapped which is why I make it a point to answer, 'Hello. George Bush is the anti-christ, how can I help you?'
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:07 PM
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78. Don't forget the case of Lone Star!
n/t
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:50 PM
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8. Yeah - And If That British Cop Was Standing Behind Him He Might Not....
have gotten hit by * on the bicycle.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:50 PM
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9. Well, Liberals said...
Before the war,

Liberals said: No WMD in Iraq. Verdict: Correct.
Liberals said: War will cause chaos in Iraq. Verdict: Correct.
Liberals said: Removing Saddam will not make world safer. Correct.
Liberals said: Invading Iraq will increase terrorism.Verdict...

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:52 PM
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12. and you are...correct n/t
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:51 PM
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11. For Soldiers to stand behind the President
He would have to be on the front lines.

Instead he is Hindmost with the rest of the puppeteers.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:52 PM
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13. OK, I'll play this stupid game
Let's go hypothetical.

After the 2004 elections, we all began changing our minds. Something in the water, who knows. In any case, Bush miraculously ends up with a 100% approval rating. We all love him. He can do no wrong. We support every bit of his legislative agenda, and the newly-minted 100% GOP Congress has been passing bills left and right, with all the language written in the bowels of the White House itself.

Fast forward to London this morning. And the attacks never happened. Why? How does it follow that unconditional support of GW Bush in this country keeps terrorism from happening overseas?

I'm stumped. I quit. This makes no sense whatsoever.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:58 PM
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It's magical thinking.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 12:58 PM by BiggJawn
The same superstitious bullshit that was good for sales of made-in-China plush bears dressed like soldiers and firefighters in the months following Sept. '01...

"If we ALL had only stood behind our Pretzeldunce, then Jeebus would have smiled, and the Magic 9-11 Teddy Bears could have worked their magic and protected everyone in the world. But since the LIBERALS HATE Bush, Jeebus cried, and the teddy bears were unable to work their magic, and thus people died. and thus it's ALL the LIBERALS fault that some poor little moppet is gonna have to go live in the David Copperfield Home for Orphans because her mummy and daddy died..."

:puke:
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:01 PM
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31. I hate to say it but I bet
a ten dollar bill that the shrub's approval rating goes up at least 5 points over this.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:29 PM
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55. Well, obviously, our LTTEs and blogs are emboldening the
terrorists.

If we all gave * our full support, they would have killed themselves in despair and the London bombings would not have happened.

That's why we have to fall in line, or be silenced.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:14 PM
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83. silly rabbit
it's obvious. look, I'll try to use small words since you don't have my strong freeper-edumacation. Bush=good. Supporting Bush=American Way, not-supporting Bush=terrorist (insert racist, bigoted, generally ignorant remarks here) think us weak. so they attack england.

go it?

liberals. hmph
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:53 PM
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14. What's the logic in that?!?
:shrug:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:56 PM
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22. If we hadn't forced him to take a 60 city 60 day campaign swing
to "make the American people understand" the crisis in Social Security he could have been back in DC doing what he does best, working hard on the hard work of protecting America just like he did before 9/11.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:56 PM
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23. Obviously the terrorists would be intimidated
by the sight of all those people standing behind their president.
OK maybe not.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #14
75. You're Looking For Logic On RW Radio?
Be serious! Facts, logic, and critical thinking have no place in that whole philosophy.
The Professor
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:53 PM
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15. If none of us had been standing behind our president
and hadn't voted for him, maybe we wouldn't be in the war and all this money being spent on the war could be spent on intelligence and security.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:54 PM
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17. And if everyone who supported the war was in the military
Then maybe the Iraq mess would be over by now...
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:54 PM
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18. It smacks of the PNAC's.
Global domination at any price.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:54 PM
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19. Actually I have the opposite point of view.
If more Americans had used their BRAINS intead of being mewing sheeple, and OPPOSED bush's unjustified, immoral, illegal war on Iraq, things WOULDN'T BE AS BAD NOW AS THEY ARE!!! He has been fucking BREEDING terrorists, allowing al-Queda to THRIVE, refusing to catch OBL because he's too convenient of a boogeyman.

No, I say it is standing behind this immoral bastard ass son of a bitch that got us right where we are.

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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:55 PM
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20. If our President had been hunting down Bin Ladden, this wouldn't have
happened.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:58 PM
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25. I am already hearing that
all my co-workers are talking of how happy they are that Bush is president and keeping the nation safe (barf).

This has the potential to marginalize us (democrats) if we come off looking like we de facto support the bombers we will look bad and cede the battlefield to the GOP.

We must take pains to look like we are willing to defend the nation.

Many posts I have read today make us look petty and like we would take the side of the people who did this.

We must show how leaving Iraq is a good policy and not cutting and running.

If we get tagged with the same "blame American first" tag that we have for the most part carried for the last 30 years than we will continue to lose.

Stolen elections and Diebold machines not withstanding, the reasons we lost last fall was that to many people that who would have other wise voted Democrat did not do so because they were not convinced that we would keep the country safe.

It is sad but it is just that easy an explanation.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:01 PM
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:10 PM
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37. No he stressed it.
"Marginalize 'us'" as in "we democrats". It's such a boiler plate post. Hey guys- I'm so with ya but we really should start doing and saying what all the right-wing pundits say we should. Yawn. :eyes:
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:13 PM
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42. Look did we win last fall??
And would conduct and statements like what are being posted today have helped us win an a nation wide basis??

Give me a break?

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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:15 PM
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44. She's suggesting (and I agree)
that you listen too much to right wing pundits. You accept their definitions. Which are NOT necessarily the truth.

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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:11 PM
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39. Look Bouncy Ball I am not looking
for a flame war or a rhetorical battle.

But if you check the history a little you will find that the GOP has used the tactic of portraying the Democrats as weak on defense quite often and to great effect in the last 30 years (Example: Ronald Reagan).

I have served (USN) for a prolonged period of time on active duty and have a service connected disability for my service.

I stated that I am a democrat because I am a relatively new poster and I knew that my statements would not be considered to be strident enough for some here at the DU.

However I was under the impression after reading the rules that I might comment as long I am of the opinion that the Democratic party is the last best hope of governance of the nation.

I see no reason why I should have to defend my Democratic leaning to you just because I apparently am not as far to the left as you may like.

I will agree to disagree with you and fight for your right to your opinion, please allow me the same courtesy.

And I still think that when you strip it all away the reason we lost last November is that to many people (see the "Problem with Kansas")
were not convinced that Kerry would keep the country as safe as Bush.

They were/and are wrong but that is the way they voted, and insulting them does not help us.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:14 PM
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43. Who said anything about your service in the military?
"I have served (USN) for a prolonged period of time on active duty and have a service connected disability for my service."

Why mention that? I never brought it up or asked about it.

You HAVE talked as if you AGREE with such people, in this and especially in another thread, where you went on at length on this topic and how bush keeps us safe, etc.

Yeah, uh except for September 11th!

People didn't just vote for him for THAT reason, you know. I know people who would vote for someone with an R after their name no matter WHO they were, simply because their parents did and because they always have. Unthinking.

You are trying to boil it all down to just ONE reason and that seems rather insulting, too, doesn't it?

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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:33 PM
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60. Okay I will agree with you concerning the reasons people
voted for Bush are more multi-faceted than just one reason.

I would also like to stipulate that I was not advocating that Bush is keeping us safe (which he is not) I was however trying to point out (perhaps in a haphazard and ineffective way) that this is all I have been hearing from my co-workers and on the radio (I can not get Air-America) and not every one I have listened to is a raving righty.

I think that 9/11 was going to happen no matter who had been selected by the Supreme Court 9 months earlier.

The planning that it took ensures it (it could not have conceived and planned in that short a period of time).

I think that our going into Iraq has made for more terrorist than staying out of Iraq would have.

But I also know that there is a palatable perception that the Democrats are considered weak on defense.

I hear it from my Korean War vet father in law and at vet meetings all the time. Maybe it is just me but I simply do not meet that many liberal vets.

I realize that my service it the whole scheme of things is small potatoes and I am not using it as some sort of a thing to be honored.

I know that there are many reasons why Bush won the popular vote last fall and I honestly believe that part of the reason was that some people thought he was better on security than Kerry.

Lets us be friends not rivals.

:dem: :hi:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:38 PM
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64. I don't know where you live, but there are plenty of liberal vets on DU.
I'm married to one. And his best friend is one, serving right now in Iraq (Basra, to be specific).

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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:29 PM
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71. I live in SE Wisconsin
and the Navy Club I belong to is so conservative that it is not funny.

When I visit my wifes family in central Ohio (like I did 2 weeks ago) he always takes me to the VFW and again overwhelming conservatives.

That is what I based my observations on.

Most of the vets I have contact with at the VA hospital are much more interested in the care and service they receive than partisan politics, which is if you stop and think about it the way it should be.

I may be a little on the un educated side since I have just decided to get more involved politicaly.

Most of what I get for information is from Newspapers web sites and the ABC Note site.

DU is the only other information site I visit.

Perhaps there are others I am open to learning more.

A closed mind is a useless thing and I do not want a closed mind.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #71
80. I'll add my Brother in law and my husband both USN Vet RET
and both are very liberal...

It is partly who is very vocal, also ... I hate to say it but the right has created this mythology and we need TO STOP playing along as the facts do not bear it out.

We have had the most problems with the armed forces when the Republicans get to play with the armed forces. It is also a myth that they love to sperad that liberals don't serve

It will take a while for you to realize how it is done, but mostly repetition...

Welcome to DU by the way, here is a cup of coffee,
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:11 PM
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40. Your co-workers are brain-dead
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 01:14 PM by eissa
How are we safer? Blaming bush is not the same as blaming America. Where was this attitude of "stand behind the president" when Clinton was in the WH? I have read nothing on DU that suggests anyone is supporting terrorists. What I've read are comments that say violence begets violence. You must expect some blowback when you engage in a unilateral, illegal and immoral invasion of a sovereign nation and occupy it. It's bush's short-sighted, simple-minded policies that have gotten the world into this mess. Tell your co-workers that.

BTW, thank you for your service and welcome to DU.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:35 PM
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62. I agree with you completely


"You must expect some blow back when you engage in a unilateral, illegal and immoral invasion of a sovereign nation and occupy it. It's bush's short-sighted, simple-minded policies that have gotten the world into this mess. "

Thank you

:toast:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #25
47. I don't know what posts you're referring to
but Democrats do not "support the bombers," nor do we "look" like we do.

Democrats DO "defend the nation."

Anybody who thinks or says otherwise is either an idiot or a liar.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #25
61. The only "Diebold notwithstanding" is Diebold not
withstanding scrutiny.

The election was stolen. More did vote for Kerry than Bush. They make the claim that people were 'not convinced' to explain away the discrepancies between the polls, the statistics and the votes counted.

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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #61
63. Yes but how can we ever prove it.
beyond a reasonable doubt??
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #63
69. "beyond a reasonable doubt??"
Is that the bar? Funny thing is, many on the otherside keeping using that in their arguments against a need for REAL election reform.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #69
72. No that does not need to be the standard
used. I just want it to be proved to the point where the broad base of the public will accept it as fact.

Other wise it is to easy to dismiss it as crankery.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:39 PM
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73. Battles Over Perception?
"easy to dismiss it as crankery". That's only perception and for who? For the simple minded pundits in the media or for the average American? Because in all sincerity, it isn't easy to dismiss what most here find to be adequate enough. If it were easy to dismiss, we wouldn't be talking about it. THAT's a FACT!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #63
70. That's what criminal investigations are for.
You don't start an investigation with 'beyond a reasonable doubt', you start it with a reasonable suspicion. The fact that it has not been proved is not reason for not investigating.

Start with the statistics. That leads to certain conclusions. Those conclusions lead to different hypotheses about how the counting fraud was perpetrated. The hypotheses will lead to particular individuals. Those individuals can then be investigated, and pressured to cooperate with the investigation. Those who did this did it mostly for monetary gain, not principles, and having no principles they will turn on their co-conspiritors in a heartbeat if they know they can cut a deal.

I'm sure there are some who do think that * is keeping them safe. But those numbers are dropping, not rising. We need to stress that London is a result of *'s policies, not a vindication of them.

There will be terrorist attacks here in the States, sooner or later, and we cannot permit them to spin it as a proof that we are at war, rather than a proof that we are less safe because of *.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #25
65. Oh hey, you must be making a ton of money to be able to pinpoint
exactly why we "lost". Im sure you're a well known socilogical researcher...

Trust me whenever I see a post that says for definitive purposes they know THE reason why we lost or were attacked or did this or that... I just automatically chock it up to more ranting. Your own words are no better or worse than anyone elses here, and certainly are not more legitimate becuase you work with a bunch of jack booted thugs that want to see me and my family converted, incarcerated, kicked out or killed. Just because I refuse to bow down to yours or theirs party line.

Your "friends" at work are not exactly the epitome of epic anecdotal findings. I heard two of my repug coworkers saying the exact opposite today, so basically your friends words really mean shit to me right now.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:59 PM
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27. Chuck Hagel has blood on his hands!
the terrorists were beat until they heard his speech, then they bucked up.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:00 PM
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28. What HASN'T Bush Gotten Militarily That He Wanted?
He's been literally given a blank check in the Middle East. He was given congressional approval for the Iraq war. He was "re-elected". He has total control of the media and the congress. What else should he have gotten that would've prevented this attack?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:00 PM
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29. This President has not done anything to make us
safer. We have already invested 4 years into wars and deaths on both sides and we are no safer. How many lives and how many years is it going to take before they wake up and smell the blood?
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:00 PM
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30. Riiiiight. Shrub has been handed everything on a silver platter....
...by a conservative stacked house and senate, and has managed to fuck that up six ways to sunday.

No way, no how they can spin that.
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:03 PM
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34. Was that the wanker
on the Stephanie Miller show today? spouting off some kind of horseshit that we should support Fearless Leader without question..and all who did not were commie, debbil worshippers?
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tmorelli415 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:03 PM
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35. Blame the American People?
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 01:07 PM by tmorelli415
We need to point out very clearly and decisively that when they make statements like that, they are blaming the American people for the terrorism. We don't need leaders who blame us and take no responsibility.

How about this: 'if Bush had listened to the American people this wouldn't have happened!'
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:06 PM
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36. Um...yeah.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 01:07 PM by distantearlywarning
If every single American suddenly "got behind the president" this afternoon, that would make Al Qaida stop blowing stuff up because....?????

Sure. Makes sense to me. :wtf:
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:10 PM
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38. My RW friend sent me an email.
Just one line. "Looks like Al Quida is still at large"...

Whatever the hell that means I just ignored it. What was I suppose to reply.. "No shit? They will still be at large when you and I are grey haired old men."

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tmorelli415 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:13 PM
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41. Still at Large Because Bush Decided
it was more important to shit can Saddam instead of Osama. We aren't pissed off because Bush is fighting terrorism - we're pissed because he is NOT fighting terrorism!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:19 PM
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45. My answer to that
because the job in Afghanistan was not finished, and the President did not allow for it to be finished.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:19 PM
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46. Reply with "Why won't Bush bring them to justice"
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:22 PM
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48. Reply this way ...
"Bin Laden is still free."

How difficult is this? Bush blew it. Because of his extremist neocon ideology, he took his eye off the ball -- to bring to justice the real perpetrators of September 11.

"Wanted, dead or alive" I recall Bush saying. He failed to do that, didn't he?

Bush also said that we were fighting them there, so we wouldn't have to fight them here. Well, they're here!

This is a horrible tragedy ... I hate the terrorist because of what they do to innocent people. And I hate them because, with leaders like Bush and his radical Republican cronies, they are able to turn this country inside out. So far, they are winning -- and it's because Bush has virtually given them everything they've wanted to subvert us from within.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:23 PM
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49. Quote General Clark
"I'm not attacking George W. Bush for attacking the terrorists, I'm attacking him for NOT attacking the terrorists."
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:25 PM
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51. Yeah too bad Chimpy McCokespoon decided to go
after a country that DID NOTHING TO US and leave a power and security vacuum there, thus CREATING NEW AND LARGER TRAINING GROUNDS for terrorists!

YEEEEE FUCKING HA, RIGHT?
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:28 PM
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53. Yeah they're getting bigger and more popular
because of us.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:24 PM
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50. Ha! They run every branch of the federal government, get everything
they want, but somehow we've LET this happen?
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:27 PM
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52. You know, I don't give a rat's ass what they say anymore.
I think the time has come to stop responding to their agitations, and just march forth with the truth. We can't be reactionaries!!!

We now know for certain that they are all a pack of liars -- and spending time on their bullshit takes our eyes off the prize. And the prize is getting our country back.

Seems to me that the lustre is off the right-wing hacks. More and more people are opening their eyes to the lies and deceit and corruption. All the Republicans needed to lose their sway with the majority of Americans was to gain this much power. They have no more scapegoats, and try as they might to invent them, they have become whiners. People don't like whiners. And people don't like this administration.

Let the talk show liars bitch and moan. They have real problems to be concerned about.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:30 PM
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57. The one thing those talking heads on radio and TV fear the most
is a dead mike and crickets chirping outside.

In other words, NO ONE LISTENING. Terrifies them.

Which is why I don't listen to them or read them. Not worth my time. If I didn't see the odd comment quoted here and there on DU, I wouldn't have any idea what they are saying. Nor would I care.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:31 PM
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58. Right on!
Stop reacting to their spin but lay out the truth for everyone to know. Dean never takes the bait. Conyers tells it like it is. Politics is dead as we knew it. It's not about rules or being polite gentlemen and ladies anymore. We should scream bloody murder from the rooftops. Scream it over their baiting spin talking points propaganda. This is about life and death and the very survival of the country. The Dems should stop playing the game and start just telling the truth again and again.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:29 PM
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54. If the piece of shit hadn't attacked and murdered innocent people
And kissed Saudi, Pakistani and Israeli butt, this never would have happened.
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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:30 PM
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56. So typical. Shrub is never to blame for anything. I suppose
it was a liberal who invented bicycles so that's our fault too. It would be so nice if they would just wake up to the fact that they are defending someone who doesn't know wtf he's doing.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:32 PM
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59. A cop should be standing behind Bush, fastening the handcuffs
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:42 PM
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66. Standing Behind This Traitor Is The Reason We Face Terrorism
These powerful corporations create the insanity we see now, and this scum bag of a traitor is just one tool.

Cowards stand behind this criminal.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:43 PM
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67. Tell it to the police man * ran over on his bike yesterday...
:yoiks:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:44 PM
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68. Had the republicans stood behind President Clinton, Al Gore
would be president and no terrorist activities would have happened. Yeah, I know but it sounds just as silly as that cspan caller.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 02:43 PM
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74. The only way I'd stand behind Lancelot Link
is if he was on the edge of a cliff looking down.

Take a wild guess, dear reader, what happens next. :evilgrin:
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friesianrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:03 PM
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76. Classic!
You almost have to laugh at it, if it weren't so fucking sad.

But, Bush and his supporters aren't exactly quick on the uptake for pinning blame after terrorist attacks.

Saudi and Egyptian terrorists = start a war with Iraq
al-Qaeda bombings in London = blame liberals
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:06 PM
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77. If I'd been standing behind your president

I'd have rodgered the little fucker to within an inch of his life.

Then I'd have disinfected my dick.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:08 PM
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79. One really cannot stand behind a president...
whose back is against a wall.

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BushFungus Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:11 PM
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81. Yeah RIGHT!
that's OUTRAGEOUS!! Who said that!
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:11 PM
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82. If "our President" had captured bin Laden and not diverted resources
from finding other culprits by invading Iraq, this might not have happened.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:19 PM
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84. We might at least be safe from being hit by his tricycle.....
MissionNOTAccomplished: END Bu$h, Blair nuclear-age imperialism, NOW:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...



http://www.newsparkproductions.org

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."

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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:20 PM
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85. For them it all about FEAR
Fuck them and fuck bush. None of this would have happened if bush hadn't invaded a sovereign nation, bomb the shit out of it and tortured it's citizens.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:22 PM
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86. Be thankful we weren't standing behind the president
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 03:26 PM by MODemocrat
when he was riding his bike. I'm sure he doesn't know forward from reverse. :dunce: :dunce:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:24 PM
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87. What utter nonsense.
If the idiot president had listened to his generals (and the left) before his war of aggression, this wouldn't have happened.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:27 PM
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88. If We Had All Been Standing Behind...
the impeachment of our President, this wouldn't have happened.

Jay
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:30 PM
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89. he would have farted in our faces.
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