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GOPHater Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:27 PM
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Why the emphasis on "nuclear"?
Why is everyone focusing on the nuclear statements in AWOL's SOTU? These weren't the only lies if the SOTU. The very next line in the State of the Union Message was as follows:

Our intelligence sources tell us that (Hussein) has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production.

Yet, in a paper released by the Institute for Science and International Security three months before the State of the Union Message, this conclusion was drawn:

Based on the available information, the intercepted aluminum tubing could have been intended for use in a centrifuge. It is far harder to confirm the Administration's view that the tubes were specifically intended for use in a centrifuge. The earlier shipment does not appear to be specific to centrifuges, as initially claimed by the Administration. The more recent shipment is hard to assess with the available information, but even the detection of efforts to make an outer casing of a centrifuge provides limited insight into Iraq's gas centrifuge efforts.

By themselves, these attempted procurements are not evidence that Iraq is in possession of or close to possessing nuclear weapons. They also do not provide evidence that Iraq has an operating centrifuge plant or when such a plant could be operational.

Next, we have this line from the speech:

Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al Qaeda.

And in today's Washington Times, we learn that two former Bush administration intelligence officials and a United Nations terrorism committee agree that this is a lie. In the article, former State Department intelligence official Greg Thielmann had this to say:

There was no significant pattern of cooperation between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist operation.

So, who's fault is it that the aluminum tubing and Al Qaeda lines appeared in the speech? Do we blame George Tenet again? Inserting these sorts of blatantly misleading statements into Bush's biggest speech of the year in order to deliberately trick the American public into supporting a war is lying on a scale that Bill Clinton never dreamed of. This is exactly the kind of tactic that Joseph Goebbels would have employed, had he been in charge of writing this speech.

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mjb4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:29 PM
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1. From the words of John Stewart
Do they think we are RETARDED!
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SeattleDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:32 PM
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2. this would make a great letter to editor
you should parse it down to its core to meet word limits and submit it to the papers! Great points to remind everyone of.
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GOPHater Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:37 PM
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3. I'll use GOP Team Leader
Everyone can do this. Sign up as a GOP Team Leader at www.gopteamleader.com. Then, use their site to post letters to the editor in major newspapers across the country. They make it real easy to do and they don't check content. You just submit your article, and click on the newspapers you wish to submit to. They do the rest for you. I've done it many times and have been published all over the country bashing AWOL using a GOP site. It's great.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 12:40 PM
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4. I'll tell you why
This is an incredibly wonderful strategy, that's why. We bash the Dumbass on one lie at a time until all of the bashing is done for that lie and we move on to the next.

At this rate, Bush will have an approval rating of 20% which will be those hardcore diehards morans(sic) like Bob Boudelang.
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