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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:45 AM
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Business as usual. (A post from central London.)
First of all, THANK YOU to everyone whose shown sympathy to my city and my country. It has thus far been a terrible day. The knowledge that the world is sharing in the horror and grief we are having inflicted on us is genuinely reassuring.

Sitting here in my flat in Pimlico, five minutes' walk from Victoria, one of London's most important stations, I can still hear a now-constant din of sirens and helicopters.

The Edgware Road bomb exploded about 20 metres from Mrs Taxloss' parents' flat - fortunately, they were abroad. Another friend had to walk through a Tube tunnel.

But London has seen worse. We knew it could happen - our authorities wasted no opportunity to warn us. We weathered the 20-year IRA campaign - the offices of a company I use to work for were severely damaged in the Docklands bomb. The Blitz flattened most of the centre and killed 30,000 Londoners. The city has burned down on several occasions.

During the Blitz, London's motto was "business as usual". It was a matter of pride. Half-burned libraries remained open. Shops that had no roof and nothing to sell remained open. There's a famous picture of an almost-destroyed shop, open for business, and displaying a sign saying "You should see our Hamburg branch".

Maybe I'm feeling flippant because it hasn't sunk in yet. Certainly, I had a bit of a weep earlier, and I just feel numb. But weary, deadpan cynicism is London's main export - the notion that the "Blitz spirit" is this sort of chipper, cheery, cheeky-chappie happy Dick van Dyke Cockney demeanour is bollocks - it was a time of black humour. Viz the "Hamburg Branch". There's a dark current to that joke.

But what I'm trying to say through this rambling, unfocused narrative is this: there have been several threads criticising people for talking about Rove, or for politicking, or for doing anything other than focusing on horror and sympathy at 7.7.

I say this as a deeply upset Londoner: Talk about whatever you like. I really don't mind. Talk about Rove. Talk about missing blondes. Talk about Gleneagles. Carry on, as you were. There's clearly no danger of a sympathy shortfall on DU - you've already shown that.

But I think there's no problem with business as usual. I, personally, would like a bit of normality.

OK, NOW I'm crying.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:47 AM
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1. Heartfelt Post, thank you and be safe.
our thoughts and prayers are with you all.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:57 AM
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18. Thank you.
The good news is that Londoners are complaining about the disruption. If they stopped complaining, then I'd be worried.

:grouphug:
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:50 AM
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2. Thanks for taking the time
to share your feelings and views. Be safe, pray for peace.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:58 AM
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19. Thank you.
It was good to get it out of my system.
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Badger1 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:50 AM
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3. Our best
to all of you from the Heartland of America.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:58 AM
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21. And back to you.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:50 AM
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4. Thanks for the report
and hang in there. We will all get through this somehow, I hope.




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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:00 AM
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23. Thanks. The city is, as you might imagine, eerie right now.
Quite a few people on the streets, sirens, helicopters.

But the sun just came out.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:50 AM
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5. kick because post too important to fall away
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:50 AM
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6. Ah, you dear man.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 07:50 AM by Bouncy Ball
I thought about you just now, before I read this. Well, London is ALL I can think about right now anyway. I love that city, I've been an Anglophile since I was a kid, and New York and London are my two favorite cities in the world, so this hurts my heart.

Stay safe, please. I know Londoners are tough, but....just.....I'm so sorry.

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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:03 AM
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30. Thank you, thank you!
London and New York are basically twins, there's such affinity between them - a friend of mine who divides his time between London and Columbia Uni. treats them as a single city, NYLON.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:51 AM
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7. Keep your head down and your chin up. In other words, Be British
You and your country have the world's heart and the world's admiration today. Please be safe and know that you are not going to stand alone this time.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:06 AM
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35. Thank you
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:51 AM
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8. Stay safe
And all my sympathies.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:09 AM
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38. Thank you.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:51 AM
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9. Peace and love to you....
and of course as many cyber hugs as you can stand.

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:10 AM
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40. Thank you
:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:52 AM
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10. Sorry you have to endure this..
And you're right. sometimes "business as usual" is a relief from the pain...

Please keep us informed as much as possible. Lord knows the MSM isn't real good at letting us know what is really going on.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:56 AM
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15. I'm afraid our picture isn't much clearer than yours right now
Things won;t be clear for hours.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:00 AM
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24. Just take care as much as possible. I imagine the picture won't be clear
for quite some time. Chaos will probably be the order of the next few days.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:53 AM
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11. Thank You & Cheers...I Thought About Past London Plights
The "stiff upper lip" of the British showed from all I saw and heard this morning. Surely, the disruption is bad, and we're still yet to see the full scope of what's occured, but the decorum and professionalism I saw and heard while listen around London Radio stations showed a city that can be shaken, but not stirred.

I also thought of how my own city, Chicago, would react to a similar incident...and how we would take a similar attitude. The last thing we'd want those who attack us is to see they've succeded.

Thank you so much for your report and I hope the ultimate victims of today's attack are all those who created the "war on terror" that is spinning more and more out of control.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:12 AM
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42. Thank you.
It's been an emotional 24 hours. Those friends of mine I have been able to reach, although all upset and shaken, are chiefly concerned about how they're going to get home tonight. I think that's a good sign.

And our emergency services have been BRILLIANT.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:27 AM
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138. Not suprising
I'm just thinking of all the London commuters from my neck of the woods. Getting home at the end of the day is all they will have worried about.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:54 AM
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12. Stiff upper lip, and all that.
Stay safe, taxloss. You and all of our London DUers are in our thoughts.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:13 AM
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43. Thank you.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:54 AM
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13. I love the London cynicism...
....and since you are showing a bit of that after a horrendous morning like todoay's......as always I know that London will trundle along and get on with it.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:18 AM
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48. We do our best.
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Cyndee_Lou_Who Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:55 AM
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14. Peace and love to you and yours....
:hug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:19 AM
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49. Thanks.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:56 AM
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16. Our condolences to you; please know we're thinking of you.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:20 AM
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51. I know; thank you.
I remember how I felt on 11.9.01. And I want you to know I appreciate it.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:57 AM
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17. From New York
If we could weather the storm, you certainly can.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:20 AM
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52. And you certainly did weather it.
We're an old city. We're not going anywhere.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:10 PM
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137. That's the spirit!

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:58 AM
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20. Oh, dear. (((HUG)))
I just don't know what to say.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:21 AM
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53. Thank you anyway.
:grouphug:
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:59 AM
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22. I had stopped crying,
but reading your post started me up again.

"Business as usual" described all of Britain during WWII, don't you think?

I have a story: My late father-in-law was 8 when WWII started, living with his widowed mother in a tiny village near Rugby. When he was about 9, he was dozing one evening on the sofa listening to the radio when a bomb was dropped on their cottage. He and his mother grabbed some belongings, got out and went to her sister's house. Next day, father-in-law went to school and his mother went to work, just like always. They were moved to another cottage locally (which had the distinction of once having been the home of Guy Fawkes - it's a listed building now). What happened, happened and it was obviously upsetting (to say the least!), but it didn't cause them to make any changes in their lives. It truly was "business as usual".

We have a photograph of the bombed house around somewhere, and from the way it looks it was a miracle they got out alive, let alone unscathed. But they did, and they kept going.

That's what will happen now. People will keep going here, grimly at first, but the British are resolute and will recover from this.

Take care of yourself and your loved ones, Taxloss.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:01 AM
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25. Most thoughtful post noted and nominated!
No one, and I do mean no one, can protect us from the random crazies out there, whether they're organized terror groups or lone muggers, rapists, or killers.

London's response to crime, terror, war, and natural disaster has always been (and should always be) a beacon of sanity in times of tragedy for all of us.

Be well, Taxloss!

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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:09 AM
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37. Thank you.
If someone really, really, wants to blow up a bus then sadly there's not a lot you can do about it. But you can say bollocks to it.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:01 AM
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26. Thank you very much for your insight.
I'm glad to hear you and your loved ones are safe. Take care.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:22 AM
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55. Everyone seems to be OK.
Certainly the situation is stable now; it's over, there won't be any more. The entire South-east has been shut down (although I can still hear planes coming in to Heathrow, so it can't be that bad).
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:02 AM
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27. Nice one mate n/t
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:06 AM
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34. Ta
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:02 AM
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28. Recommending...we needed to hear this from a Brit...
I know from my love of British history that the British people will carry on and triumph, I've said it in other posts this morning on a few threads, and I said it in an email to the British Consulate in DC. You can read my other posts, so to you and your fellow Brits' I'll say this:

We love you all, pray for your safety, and stand in solidarity with you now and in the future. I apologize for the danger brought to your door from our "preselected" president. I, as an American, feel a sense of responsibility for the tragedy you are all going through, and my heart aches with the knowledge that our president continues to play into the hands of the most extreme elements of our world. Please pass on to all your aquaintance our deepest sympathies and prayers for justice.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:24 AM
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57. Thank you.
I think it's very touching that so many DUers are concerned at our feelings - I don't begrudge their meaning at all.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:02 AM
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29. Wow. I'm glad you and yours are okay.
This is so horrible. All of my sympathies to everyone in London. :hug: :grouphug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:25 AM
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Thank you.
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praxiz Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:03 AM
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31. You gotta love those brits :)
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 08:04 AM by praxiz
I once made a photoshopped image for a Worth1000-contest. The theme was to illustrate a word. I chose "intrasigent" and based my piece on the bombing campaigns over London during WW2.

I dunno, I just started thinking about it now.

The picture is a bit big so I won't highjack this thread by posting the whole thing, but follow this link, and press "View full"

http://www.worth1000.com/view.asp?entry=134648&display=...
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:31 AM
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61. Well, you don't HAVE to love us ...
... but thankyou for the image. There are un-'shopped images that are equally nonchalent. Milkmen picking their way through rubble, people browsing in destroyed shops, that sort of thing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:04 AM
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32. love you baby, made me cry.......
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 08:04 AM by seabeyond
we are good at multitasking. we can talk about other things, and continue to listen to what is happening in london and being with you all in spirit.

take care of you and yours
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:32 AM
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62. You too, thank you.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:05 AM
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33. stay safe
my thoughts and prayers are with you all. :hug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:32 AM
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63. Thank you.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:08 AM
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36. Thanks, Taxloss, for this post.
I had the pleasure of visiting your wonderful city last week (returned home last Friday) and was heartbroken when I heard the news this morning. My family fell in love with London and we can't wait to visit again. Stay strong and keep us posted. :grouphug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:34 AM
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65. Thank YOU for visiting this city.
Which remains the best in the world. ;-)

I'll tell you what I can, but that's not a lot right now.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:09 AM
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39. My heartfelt sympathy and admiration
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 08:25 AM by Mandate My Ass
I've visited London three times and the people I met there were so wonderfully welcoming that I felt like I was in my second home. The first time I went, the IRA was still a serious threat and for the first time in my life I thought about how it must feel to live with the constant dread that something violent might happen at any minute. It was something of a shock when I went to my first pub and saw a plaque on the wall that was a memorial to those who died in a bombing in that exact place years earlier. It was not only eye-opening in regard to how terrorists use sudden deadly violence to gain their ends, but also how beautifully Londoners handled it. One word sums it up: Character.

It saddens me that this happened to you and your city. Be safe and take care of yourself.



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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:41 AM
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70. Thank you.
But we weren't living in constant dread - it was certainly a concern that shaped our society (as anyone who has tried to find a bin in a train or Tube station will know), but we weren't hiding under the bed, we were carrying on.

And we will carry on.

We'll still be here for your fourth visit. :grouphug:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:11 AM
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41. "You should see our Hamburg branch"
Uniquely British. I love that part of your country's character.

Keep smiling through the pain. It's the best revenge. :hug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:43 AM
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71. Yes, they picked the wrong target.
The entire country is now on alert. They're not going to be free for long.

And it's nice to see you again.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:14 AM
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44. My sympathies are with you Londoners today
Stay Strong, and keep the chin up.

My condolences and prayers to all those who lost someone.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:56 AM
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81. Thank you.
So far, thankfully, it seems few were killed. But many hundreds are terribly wounded.
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CitrusLib Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:14 AM
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45. Beautifully written. Thank you.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:00 AM
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83. Thank you.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:16 AM
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46. I'm crying with you.
Over and over again, innocent people who want nothing more than a life filled with *ordinary* things -- good food, good friends, and peace -- are the victims of monsters who would destroy them for some kind of gain.

It's incredibly upsetting. I love London; I love the tube and the busses and the people.

Best to you. :hug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:01 AM
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86. Who doesn't want peace?
Answer that question and you see the heart of evil in the world.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:14 AM
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97. You are so right. nt
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:16 AM
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47. This is so sad, Taxloss
But the Londoner's stamina and stature during a crisis is well known.
Hopefully this will settle down and order restored, and I hope the remaining missing people will be found in good health.

Take care now!
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:02 AM
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87. Thank you.
The situation is developing and it seems our emergency services have done amazing work.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:19 AM
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50. My thoughts are with those in London right now...
and I have to say that my first reaction to the news, after the initial shock, was to think "If whoever's behind this expected it to discourage the British people, they badly miscalculated." London's seen the like of this before, and worse, and carried on magnificently.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:05 AM
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90. A miscalculation indeed. These people have not advanced their goals.
We'll be fine. If Goering couldn't do it, a bunch of crackpots can't do it.

BTW, I love your nick and your sig - Warren Ellis rocks.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:24 AM
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101. Yeah...Ellis is great...
it would be rather interesting to see him do something a bit more current-events influenced (even though Transmetropolitan came awfully close in some ways); some of his work is oddly reminiscent of Swift, I'd say...vicious satire, but with heart and passion behind it...definitely something we need, these days.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:21 AM
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54. Our hearts are with you.
The world is with you. We will continue to work and pray for peace and healing.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:06 AM
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91. Thank you.
All we want is peace.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:23 AM
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56. We're with you...more than you could possibly know...
...but we also know that the Bush political gears are grinding at this very moment...searching for a way to advance their agenda of greed and empire.

These are terrible times and we must work together to find peace and justice.

We're crying with you.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:08 AM
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93. Thank you.
I daresay the political gears are grining. But what clearer signal could there be that four years of war has done noting but kill? I'm sure my fellow Brits will see it that way.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:25 AM
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58. Thank you for all that you said. I submit that

it is actually healthy to talk about other topics, to engage in cynicism and gallows humor, when confronted with horrible events such as those that have befallen London today. Humans can only bear so much grim reality at one time. And what can we in the U.S. really say? Only that we are sorry, that this is a terrible day, that we wish you all the best, that we pray for you.

:hug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:08 AM
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94. Yes, I think you're right.
Thank you.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:28 AM
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59. My prayers and thoughts are with you and the rest of London
Stay safe, and stay sane friend. I'm glad to hear that you and yours are alright. We will be talking this over a lot for the next while, but we will also speak of other things. We will try to bring you some normality. But hey, keep up the dark humor, I understand it well, it is the only way to keep the chin up when the world is going to hell.

So again, please stay safe, and stay sane, not just for your own sake, but for those who you hold dear. We will be here for you.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:20 AM
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98. Thank you.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:30 AM
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60. Peace be upon you and your family.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:20 AM
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100. Thank you.
After peace, what is there to hope for?
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:33 AM
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64. A hug for my British cousins
That was a great post. You've got me teary-eyed now too, but I'm also happy to know that the spirit of Londoners is intact.

Three quarters of my ancestors came from the south of England, I'm proud to say (the rest from France, but we won't discuss that ;-) )
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:26 AM
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103. Thank you
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:35 AM
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66. Taxloss, that is one of the most honest, most poignant
most honest, most heartfelt post I've read in a long, long time. You know well that our thoughts are with you as your thoughts were with us when we needed them.

God bless and take good care, my friend.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:27 AM
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104. Thank you. I may post again when we know what happened.
So be warned.
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Ms Turtle Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:36 AM
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67. a worried "Mum"
My son and daughter in law live in Watford, just outside of London. I am awaiting some word that they are safe at work and did not go in to London for any reason today. I spoke with them last weekend and don't remember any plans to go in this week. My son doesn't go in during the week usually but my daughter in law does on occasion.

My heart goes out to everyone there! I was there visiting last year. I am of course, worried until I hear they are safe.

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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:28 AM
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105. Watford is fine.
Curiously, my father grew up near Watford, in Rickmansworth, so I know it well.
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OBrien Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:39 AM
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68. Keep Calm and Carry On
That is a poster I found from WW11 in Lewes. I may put it in my window today. I lived in London for three yrs.96-99 and return every year. I love Britain and it's people very much. I'm so so sorry for what has happened. I'm crying with you.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:31 AM
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106. Thank you.
Loving you right back. This transatlantic friendship is one of the most remarkable in history.
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Number9Dream Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:40 AM
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69. Best Wishes from two generations...
My 85 y/o father piloted a B-17 out of Kimbolton, England, 1944. Since being stationed in the UK, he has had respect and admiration for the people there. He asked me to pass along his (and mine) best wishes to all the people of England.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:32 AM
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107. In that case, thank you and your father for helping us stay free.
We haven't forgotten.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:43 AM
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72. I do share
you and your cities horror and grief today, as I would for anyone/place who had to go through such a thing.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:32 AM
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108. Thank you
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:47 AM
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73. Mr Taxloss,horrified at what they've done. deepest sympathies to Londoners
supposed to visit London next month - and I suppose that's part of what they wanted, to hurt the British economy by scaring off the tourist trade, as they did here in the US.

God bless and keep those who have passed on in this and the injured.



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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:49 AM
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74. Please continue to keep us posted. Thank you so much. n/t
.
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The Icon Painter Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:50 AM
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75. Posted
I posted your words in my blog so that others - not on DU - might get an idea of what true courage is. It has been years since I have permitted myself to cry but reading what you have to say makes my eyes prickle. You are a great people, you Brits; I am proud to have many of you as friends. I wish you well and know I need not wish you strength - you have that in abundance. :applause:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:52 AM
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78. Thank you, that's extremely kind.
I wouldn't call it courage. "An attempt to come to terms", maybe.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:50 AM
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76. From an American Cousin
Much love and many prayers. I am emailing with a friend in London as I post this, and will contact my family in Belfast and ask them to pass along good wishes to my family living in London as well.

:grouphug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:26 AM
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102. Thank you
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:50 AM
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77. Great post-my thoughts are with you.
stay safe-let us know you and your mates are OK. :hug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:38 AM
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109. Thank you.
Everyone I love is accounted for, I think. It's been hard to find out, the phone network has been down most of the day.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:53 AM
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79. great post it touched my heart
That is the British spirit you are famous for.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:39 AM
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110. Thank you. We do our best.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:55 AM
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80. Taxloss - you know I care about you. I'm glad you are safe
and I'm terribly sorry for today's tragedy. You know where to find me, if you need to "talk."

JJ
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:41 AM
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112. Thank you, JJ.
At the moment I'm just manning the phone. We haven't suffered direct loss but Mrs Taxloss is very upset. It is a terrible shock. I'll PM you later.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:58 AM
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82. Hugs and love from this American cousin
:hug:
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:59 AM
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114. Thank you.
I have to break off thanking people and provide some coverage. Peace to everyone.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:01 AM
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84. Your words are giving comfort to us


My prayers go out to you and the people of the UK.
I have visited there many times and share a love of that beautiful place.

I am trying to get in touch with my cousin there, so far no luck.
Just reached his sister here in Los Angeles.
She did not know about the bombings and so we are trying to reach him at work. He lives in SW London but works in Central London.


Prayers
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:01 AM
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85. Glad you're ok - I can't tell you how sad this has made me.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 09:01 AM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
My heart goes out to your entire country. :hug:
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:04 AM
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88. A toast to you and your wonderful country
I toast with my cup of coffee since it's too early for me and I'm at work.

And a special toast to the first responders who are working above and beyond right now.

Crying does wonders for the heart.

Take care Taxloss.

sL-


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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:04 AM
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89. From across the pond, you've made us feel better
--and I remain at a loss as to how to return the kindness.
My thoughts, sympathy and hopes are with you all today. Keep on keeping on.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:07 AM
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92. This is all very upsetting to the 48 family
We love London, and have visited many, many times. We usually stay around Russell Square, so naturally we were horrified to hear that this area was targeted.

I was in London on 9/11, and will never forget how caring the Brits were to my husband and myself on this awful day. First reaction is just total disbelief, then anger.

People of London are in our hearts and minds today, we are all stunned -- but unfortunately not surprised, our idiot pResident has roped many allies into this mess. Yeah Bu$h, you've made the world safer.

We cry with you today. -48%er family
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:10 AM
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95. Now I'm crying too. Lovely post. Great perspective. Carry on.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:11 AM
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96. Please know that we are all here for you.
I cannot stop crying. Oh god, what a horrible day. :cry:
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:20 AM
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99. Cheers
and hugs. :hug:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:40 AM
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111. Bless your heart.
Courage, my friend. My heart goes out to you and your country.

TC
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:46 AM
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113. My heart goes out to you and all of country.
When I got up this morning and turned on CNN and saw what was happening, it was no different in my heart than if it had been happening right down the street.

Strength and love and peace to you.

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:07 AM
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115. bless you and bless the brits..you are in my prayers!
i wish i could feel this wasn't just another deflection from the * cabal...i wish i could feel this wasn't my own government doing this for the deflection away from rove and cheney and * going down..but i can not help but feel that..

but that does not and i have no intentions of saying that takes away from the devastating effects of this attack on your city or your people...or you..it is a terrible feeling to see this happen where you live..nothing could be worse..and i send my condolences and my prayers to you..and your countrymen..

bless you all!!

from a flight attendant of one of the airlines involved in ny 9/11
ny based..retired after 9/11 because i no longer trust my government.

i know your feeling of loss !
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:12 AM
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116. Humanity remains our celeb and sorrow.
Though distant our hearts meet, our minds meld, our souls unite to continue our good fight. If that is a stiff upper lip, so be it.

We are closer than we think.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:17 AM
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117. Peace and hugs and love.
:grouphug: Thank you for your wonderful post. :hug:
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:14 PM
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118. "London has seen worse"
Yes it has - and survived. Terrorism will never be fully defeated. We must accept the fact that as long as there is hate, as long as there is jealousy, as long as there is poverty, as long as some people feel left our, and yes, as long as we have fundamentalist religions - certain their "god" is the only real god, there will be violence like this. When it happens the rest of the world needs to come together and share our concern and love.

Hang tough, Taxloss, you and your fellow citizens have our support and sympathy.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:36 PM
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119. in times like these we are all one
all a part of the human race... except those who perpetrated this heinous crime against innocents...but for the last week or so i have been expecting something to happen...i thought it would be the old ship they were steaming to the staits of hormuse...but don't underestimate scotland yard to come up with the culprits...i don't think the yard is a lapdog like our own justice.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:38 PM
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120. London will stand eternally.
With the fortitude and practicality that London and her citizens have ALWAYS exemplified, I predict that London will stand long after the rest of the world comes apart at the seams.

Love to you yours and my deepest condolences to anyone touched by this horrible act. I wish I could do something--anything--to ease this painful time for you.

Brightest blessings.


Laura
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:38 PM
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121. Stay Calm. May Peace Be With You. Admire your Courage.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:42 PM
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122. Thanks for the post, please take care
best wishes to you and all. take care.
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SF Bay Area Dem Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:45 PM
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123. Be safe and God speed chap
You know we have your back here...
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:46 PM
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124. Great post, Taxloss.
:pals:
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 12:59 PM
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125. Thank you.
Peace be with you and yours.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 01:35 PM
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126. Sending love from NYC
We are all there with you today.
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:11 PM
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127. Stretching out aura from California -- normality to you.
Our little blue marble is shaken up today.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:35 PM
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128. Good to hear from you...
I was worried about you and our other British correspondents this morning.

May I quote one of your statesmen?

"Some historians will urge that admiration should be given to a Government of honourable high-minded men who bore provocation with exemplary forbearance and piled up to their credit all the Christian virtues, especially those which command electioneering popularity....

I hope it will also be written how hard all this was upon the ordinary common folk who fill the casualty lists.

Under-represented in Government and Parliamentary institutions, they confide their safety to the Ministers and the Prime Minister of the day. They have just cause of complaint if their guides or rulers so mismanage their affairs that in the end they are thrust into the worst of wars with the worst of chances."


(Unpublished passage from Churchill's "The Gathering Storm")
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:38 PM
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129. Thank you for your post and blessings be to you and yours.
Like I've said many times today, I can pray and weep and grieve for London and question motives and suspects at the same time.

Peace be with you.

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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:59 PM
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130. Love and Hugs from Arizona
My deepest sympathy goes out to everyone in London and the UK. :grouphug: You are all in my prayers. Thank you for the lovely message in your post.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 03:59 PM
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131. kick
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 04:05 PM
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132. I love your city. I love your country. I wish I was there if for nothing
else than to apologize that my idiot had something to do with this happening. We are with you, Britain and London. We love you.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:18 PM
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133. It breaks my heart to think that the people of London are...
suffering because of something that my government brought on them. On behalf of the remaining sane part of the United States, I express our sincere regret that this has happened to such a beautiful city with such wonderful people.

Please don't give up on us Americans! Someday we'll be worthy of your loyalty and friendship again. :hug: :cry: :hug:
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:20 PM
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134. Blessings to you.
Now I'm crying too, damn you. :hug:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:32 PM
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135. Taxloss keep you chin up..........
We all know the spirit of Londoners in good times and bad. I know the "Blitz" story well and so does every school child in London. The physical reminders and exhibits are impressed upon them, perhaps this is how British spirit can be upbeat even in troubling times. I know the Edgware & Bayswater areas well...an area with so much International flavor. A working mans neighborhood and a place for lodgings for many American & overseas college students. I hope & pray none of your friends were hurt.....and taking a cue from you we will carry on a business as usual.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:44 PM
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136. A hug to you from Seattle
The last time I visited London, St. Paul's had out pictures of it during the Blitz and the guide there spoke of how people would wait with buckets of sand to douse the fires from the bombs.
The spirit of those people is alive in you.
:hug:
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