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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:11 AM
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sad,sad,day
im sorry for the people in london who are suffering because of the misguided policies of the bush/blair administrations. as terrible a day as it is,maybe this will wake people up to what a terrible leader bush and company really are.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:13 AM
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1. A good friend of mine is in London, I'm hoping to get word of her safety
by the end of the day.

She is really awesome, one of the folks that got me so involved in politics. She organized 30,000 people for the first big anti-war protest in London back in march of 2003.

God I hope that she is ok.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:15 AM
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2. damn, I hope she's fine
I'll keep her in my thoughts and prayers.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:18 AM
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5. Thanks, she is an amazing person, her name is Mhari, I'm trying
ot get in touch with her ex as we speak.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:47 AM
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10. My friend is in Oxford at the moment, thank god!
I wish that others were as lucky.
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:31 AM
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6. Where is Cambridge?
I just woke up. Where is Cambridge in relation to where this is going on? What time did it start?

I have friends there, and can't find their email addy :cry:
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cire4 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:37 AM
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8. Cambridge is an hour (train ride) away from London....
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 07:38 AM by cire4
Trains from Cambridge go to either Kings Cross or Liverpool Street station in London.

Unless your friends were planning on travelling to London this morning, they are likely OK. Hopefully, they decided to stay in Cambridge...
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:47 AM
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9. Thank you!
I doubt they would be.

I went to sleep last night watching the celebration about the Olympics. So F'ing sad damn it. :cry:
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olacan Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:16 AM
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3. OK,
Lets back up and say we did not go into Iraq, do you really think they would have stopped with the terror attacks.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:18 AM
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4. Let's back up even further
Why are there terrorist attacks? What do these terrorists hope to accomplish? Why are these people so angry that they're willing to kill innocents?


By the way, my answer to your question is yes, terror attacks would have been greatly reduced had we not gone to war in Iraq to slaughter 100,000 people.
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:33 AM
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7. Probably not, but you're asking the wrong question.
The question really is, "If we had not invaded Iraq, would we be better able to deal with the threats of radical Islamist terrorism?"

The answer to that question is undoubtably yes. We wouldn't have a military at the breaking point, we would have finished the job and truly secured the peace in Afghanistan, and we wouldn't be largely alone in our efforts. Hell, even Blair sees the wisdom--belatedly--of redeploying British troops in Afghanistan--where the real threat originates--by taking them out of Iraq--where the only danger was to the Iraqi people.

And, btw, where did the 9/11 hijackers come from? Sure the fuck wasn't Iraq.

Here's a hint: * is holding hands with that country's crown prince ...

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friesianrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:53 AM
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11. I would believe...
That there is at least a chance it would not have happened. Since we invaded, al Qaeda recruitment has been up by huge numbers.

We will never know for sure, but this is why no thinking person subscribed to the absurd belief that "we fight them there so we don't have to here."
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